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^@Afshi - My sister is like that. She would criticize anybody who did anything differently than what SHE thinks is acceptable behavior. Her idea of trashy/slutty is college kids hanging out together. 
It’s all about comfort levels. No need to judge others.
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jolie, well i guess thats how you think about it.
not sure about my country, its pretty huge, but in my group of friends, hijabis and non hijabis, its just a word used to tease someone. nothign more. certaintly not an insult.
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Thats good. No one can play a victim card then, the 'sluts' have their own share of jokes and teases for Hijabis. Jokes can be avoided but mentality and attitude cannot be changed! ;)
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hey if your hijabi friends are okay with you teasing them jokingly, then tease each other.
im not saying any stranger you see on the street.
relax there angie.
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hey if your hijabi friends are okay with you teasing them jokingly, then tease each other.
im not saying any stranger you see on the street.
relax there angie.
Errr...where did I mention myself eh?
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Dear Guppies...
I don't mean to offend you guys in any way but would like to discuss this issue. I went to a hajabi girl birthday party recently and I was quite shocked to see the environment which was similar to a night club. These girls normally wear hajab and abbaya all the time in school, however, they were totally shameless in girls. Every single Pakistani, Arab, and Afghani hajabi girl was revealing her skin to the maximum. My mind can't seem to accept the big transformation from abaya/hajab to mini skirts, short dresses, back exposed, low-neck clothes, and etc. I don't wear hajab but I wouldnt feel comfortable in showing my cleavage, thighs, and legs to females that I have never encountered or even if I have known them for ages. My mind and heart won't allow me to change my personality 100%... Please explain, how can a person see this being modest?...
Lol! bet you'd have a heart attack if you attended the bridal showers they throw.
Seriously lady, loosen up a bit will you.
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ok you or anyone else for that matter.
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well everyone is not like you darling.....it's halal. Just accept it!!they are doing no sin by revealing their skin in an all girls partywhereas you are sinngin by not wearing hijaab in front of men....simple logic darl, don't make them out to be worse than you when in the eyes of Allah they are NOT doing anything wrong. Can I ask you why you have such an issue with it when Allah swt does not?
Listen, I am not degrading them. All I am saying is that hajab comes with the value and dignity. Showing butt cheeks and cleavage is very extreme. What if the girls upload pics on facebook that are strangers to eachother? We are only discussing abbaya to extreme exposure...
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first of all its hIjab, not hAjab
second, yes showing butt cheeks is a sin, but why is it your problem? you tell them that its a sin and to cover up. thats it. im assuming they are firneds of yours since ur at the same party, i doubt they would get offensive if you tell/ask them to cover up.
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or you tell them to turn the other cheek. that's more classy. show some of that compassion. yeh baby..
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Listen, I am not degrading them. All I am saying is that hajab comes with the value and dignity. Showing butt cheeks and cleavage is very extreme. What if the girls upload pics on facebook that are strangers to eachother? We are only discussing abbaya to extreme exposure...
Tell them to go to out and see some real life hookers and see if they feel flattered and inspired, if they do...there's nothing in the world that you can do to change their mindset. LOL
They don't say Hijab is a 'sacrifice' for no reason. :D
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who says hijab is a sacrifice? why is it so?
its more the opposite.
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Yea, I get what you are saying...but i think its unfair to form an opinion that the girl is vulgar or a slut.
I agree..forming a negative opinion or judging someone isn't the right thing to do. Esp if it is a straight hit on a girl's character. But these girls (infact all girls regardless of their dress) have a duty to maintain a decorum and modesty so that people don't wag fingers at them.
The sad part is that these days the new concept is 'jis ko masla hai woh na dekhe' or rather 'if you have a problem why cant you keep your gaze down too'. This 'I don't care' attitude won't help. When people would see something that is a bit of a shocker, they would comment, they would judge. It is kind of natural. Like if I see a girl inappropriately dressed coming with a group of guys/girls at around 1 or 2 in the morning...I wouldn't say she's such a pious girl. Even if none of the guys is her boyfriend. She doesn't drink or smoke and she is overall of a good character. But at that particular point nothing she's doing or showing vouches for that fact. And that is where the problem lies.
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Wow.. I would judge if I see a Hijabi dancing half naked and doing all sorts of things that even I wouldn't be caught dead with my girlfriends at "Home" or "Not". (The emphasis on "even I" because no matter how short/sleeveless/halter my dresses are, I too have a limit whether it be in public or private).
Keeping the religious aspect aside,
Am I jealous for them having fun or look prettier: Ridiculous
Am I being judgmental: Yes
Am I being Unfair for thinking they shouldn't be doing it: Maybe
Would I have less respect when I see them walking down the street next day in Hijab: Oh without a doubt "Yes"
Does that effect them in anyway: No it doesn't. They can carry on with having as many they wish and like. If it's fun for them, then go for it
Then why bother: Because I am human, I have my opinion/judgment and if someone one's invited me to a Hijabi party and I see things I wasn't expecting too, then of course I am going to force an opinion on you. I'd probably think, Hijab is forced on you or you don't take it seriously or it's just a cover-up. (It reminds me of stories from back home of how girls would go to college dressed all desi and change into jeans/tops..etc when outside. Different end of the spectrum but somehow related). But then if you don't care about how people perceive you, then you shouldn't really care if they have an opinion too
Will I go these parties if invited again: Maybe, because I've attended non-hijabi parties that are worse, and in-reality, half naked girls dancing isn't something new if you live in the west, it's just the fact that it was the Hijabi girls doing it (and I think most of the people here have dicussed about what the expectation of a Hijab is)
Modesty at it's core isn't categorized into buckets depending on who you are with or where you go. You either have it or not.
Cursing: No matter how close a group of friends I have, I would never utter a curse/SL***. Says a lot about your upbringing. I guess I go by the notion "You become what you say/think (Not literally of course)". (It has nothing to do with your relationship with that person or how classy/non classy a person you are or how casually the word is used). There is a reason it's reserved for a certian sect/catgeorgy" of the society, and it would be ideal if it remains so even if the intention of saying it wasn't so.
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wow.....very well articulated TwitTwit.....
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Oh btw, whats Islam's take on using foul/derogatory words oh so casually?
Any example of encouragement from Prophet Muhammad pbuh, Companions, Umm ul Momineen?
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Twit Twit, Enigmatic, & Muzna - I will not judge you even if you danced naked in front of me. Would you rather hang out with people who judge you or those who don't judge you no matter what and beyond just that one silly moment do not care enough to label you a whore or a slut? I am sorry but a slip of a tongue or a private party doesn't tell anything about anyone's character. AND I would rather choose friends who won't judge me for silly crap.
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Excellent discussion... Thumbs Up
Wow.. I would judge if I see a Hijabi dancing half naked and doing all sorts of things that even I wouldn't be caught dead with my girlfriends at "Home" or "Not". (The emphasis on "even I" because no matter how short/sleeveless/halter my dresses are, I too have a limit whether it be in public or private). Keeping the religious aspect aside, Am I jealous for them having fun or look prettier: RidiculousAm I being judgmental: YesAm I being Unfair for thinking they shouldn't be doing it: MaybeWould I have less respect when I see them walking down the street next day in Hijab: Oh without a doubt "Yes"Does that effect them in anyway: No it doesn't. They can carry on with having as many they wish and like. If it's fun for them, then go for itThen why bother: Because I am human, I have my opinion/judgment and if someone one's invited me to a Hijabi party and I see things I wasn't expecting too, then of course I am going to force an opinion on you. I'd probably think, Hijab is forced on you or you don't take it seriously or it's just a cover-up. (It reminds me of stories from back home of how girls would go to college dressed all desi and change into jeans/tops..etc when outside. Different end of the spectrum but somehow related). But then if you don't care about how people perceive you, then you shouldn't really care if they have an opinion tooWill I go these parties if invited again: Maybe, because I've attended non-hijabi parties that are worse, and in-reality, half naked girls dancing isn't something new if you live in the west, it's just the fact that it was the Hijabi girls doing it (and I think most of the people here have dicussed about what the expectation of a Hijab is)Modesty at it's core isn't categorized into buckets depending on who you are with or where you go. You either have it or not. Cursing: No matter how close a group of friends I have, I would never utter a curse/SL***. Says a lot about your upbringing. I guess I go by the notion "You become what you say/think (Not literally of course)". (It has nothing to do with your relationship with that person or how classy/non classy a person you are or how casually the word is used). There is a reason it's reserved for a certian sect/catgeorgy" of the society, and it would be ideal if it remains so even if the intention of saying it wasn't so.
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i think we can just agree to disagree and put an end to this thread.
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LOL, now swearing is correlating with one's upbringing. no parent ever teaches their kid to swear.. :P