Hafiz Saeed threatens India with jihad

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What a LIE!

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The Sikhs in that region have been living there for Centuries…

They stayed behind and they lived there for a reason. Because it was their home.

One Sikh dies, unfortunately and all of the sudden Pakistan is murdering all sikhs! GET A LIFE MY FRIEND…

They killed 3000 of your people in New Delhi. Innocent men women and children were butchered in your streets by your own people, and here you are defending India…
What happened to that Sikh pride you people are always vaunting!

3000 Sikhs dead in India at the HANDS OF HINDU mobs, and your complaining about 1 Sikh who was murdered by terrrosit criminals in Pakistan!

I would have you kow that the other Sikhs were rescued by Pakistani forces.

Sardar jee, aprai pehch zara peedai kurdo..

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Actually its quite the oppsoite.. Unless Indians abandon their Kashmir occupation, there can never be peace.

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So why didn’t those talibanis kidnapped muslims for ransom, why only sikh, bass inna tasso menu
And what shall I do to prove that I am a sikh, I am not going to write *ik onkar *here at least.

jeetIAF.

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Then you might be even aware that now those who started such massacre like sajjan kumar are now finding themselves in court. I will reiterate that minorities are most likely victim of violence but they are not persecuted here, they are not chosen by any hindutva group here for ransom and then murdered. Riot and persecution are totally different things.
Like Indians Pakistanis also understand what is a riot.
Riot is unacceptable and 84 was such a thing.
India is the home of Sikhs and I am an Indian
And I know after two murders of Sikhs by Taliban, Pakistani forces saved rest of them.

jeetIAF

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Yeah U nailed it accurately. Definitely kuffar like Mulla Fazullah, Maulana Sufi Mohammad, their hundreds of hindu associated who are fighting and sacrificing their lives, for Implementations of Islamic laws are behind terrorists activities in Pakistan. They lick toes of their RAW bosses daily. Bloody uncircumcised kuffar.

While Hafiz Saeed is one of 140 millions pious Pakistani muslims who are living Islam in their day-to-day life and spreading the message of love and brotherhood. Those who are enemies of Islam are after pious Hafiz Saeed, may ALLAH grant him his rightful place in Islamic Jannah. Ameen??? World of Muslims should be proud to have him among them.

Peace.

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Please get your fact straight, the so-called Mulla Fazaulullah is reportedly hiding in Afghanistan, probably in one of the consulates India uses to nurture the terrorists against Pakistan ( same as India did it back in late 60s remember your cross-border terrorism history)... The Hindu of India is providing them with the funds and necessary equipments to move and create violence as it always did.. earlier it was based on ethnicity this time it is based on religion and belief..

Hafiz Saeed is a diferent case, his cause is Kashmir, he and many like him are result of stubbornness and deceiving nature of Hindu... Now that this has been going on for 60+ years, now if somebody is calling Hindu as a deciever and liar then what is wrong in it, if somebody in Pakistan telling the people of Pakistan that no matter what you do, your neighbor is up to no good then y the Indians are peeing in the pants, is he telling the truth..

The followers of your great Hindu religion are asking the death of Pakistan, they are having regular public meetings to spread the hatred against Pakistan isn't that bother you, of course how come that will ever bother you and your other brothers, We might have two or three Hafiz Saeeds in Pakistan, which BTW is byproduct of Indian OCCUPATION of Kashmir, but India have 1000s of Anti-Pakistan leaders...

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If Mullah Fazllulah was the ONLY person responsible for the violence in Pkaistan i might have even bought your argument. You know as much as most of Pakistanis know, there is more to it. Groups like Lashkar E Jhangvi and Sipah e Sahiba along with TTP are resopinsoble for much of the violence. As in the case where a Jamat e Islami leader has been held responsible by the locals in Bajaur, these are local elements who have come home to roost.

Are you trying to tell me that the state of Pakistan is not capable of taking on India so it is taking help of hired goons :D. Hafeez Saeed has no loci standing as far as Kashmir is concerned. It is a dispute between two countries ... but then i guess you realize that Pakitan is not capable of handling itself so it has to use these goons who rely on religious sentiments. All it has ended doing is ferment more trouble in Pakistan itself, as these self styled religious entites want to use the same religious fervor to "cleanse" Pakistan.

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Yeah right again brother hanibal. These so called jihadis seems to have reverted to their earlier hindu religion and have waged war against muslims and Islam. I m afraid which scripture RAW might have used to brainwash their previously-islamic minds. Ayahs of holy quran seems to have lost ITS relevence for these neo hindus.

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Hafiz Saeed is a diferent case, his cause is Kashmir, he and many like him are result of stubbornness and deceiving nature of Hindu... Now that this has been going on for 60+ years, now if somebody is calling Hindu as a deciever and liar then what is wrong in it, if somebody in Pakistan telling the people of Pakistan that no matter what you do, your neighbor is up to no good then y the Indians are peeing in the pants, is he telling the truth..

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Yeah right again, Hafiz Saeed is an entirely different case, its a very simple formula, when a muslim kills muslim he is a terrorist, while when a muslim kills hindus or non muslims he is a pious jihadi, and so is our great Hafiz Saeed. Decieving nature of hindus is not a secret to world today, the world knows that all hindus are terrorist and all terrorists are hindus. So whatever he is telling is nothing but truth. Now hindus are peeing in the pants and those bloody uncircumcised terrorists who are fighting and laying down their lives for implementations of Islamic shariyah are consuming the product of hindus and RAW. Let me add that I have great respect for muslims that they are so honest that they never decieve anyone specially ALLAH and the holy prophet. Pakistan of today is living example of muslim's commitment towards their religion, ALLAH and the holy prophet. Muslims have propagated their religion of love and brotherhood in such a beautiful manner and always stayed away from murder of fellow muslims. Shame on hindus.

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The followers of your great Hindu religion are asking the death of Pakistan, they are having regular public meetings to spread the hatred against Pakistan isn't that bother you, of course how come that will ever bother you and your other brothers, We might have two or three Hafiz Saeeds in Pakistan, which BTW is byproduct of Indian OCCUPATION of Kashmir, but India have 1000s of Anti-Pakistan leaders...

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Yeah right again, I remember not so long back some bloody hindu terrorists sneaked into ur largest city and wrecked havoc on innocent civilians. U are having live vedios of those bloody kuffar still shameless hindu India is not accepting that those were hindu terrorists. Plz allow me to correct U, not two or three, ur great nation has millions of jihadis like great Hafiz Saeed, they are on the right path of Islam and U should be proud of them. And U should also be proud of ur Nation and ur religion which has spread message of love, peace brotherhood to the world.

Peace.

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I'm glad they finally arrested someone... Hope they begin arresting all of the rioters... You literally have Thousands of rioters who are guilty of murder but will never be found.
And while I dont accuse Indians of runnign a pogrom against Sikhs in general, they certainly were active during the riots in systematically killing as many Sikhs as possible.
Now I hope they start prosecuting those involved in the murder of the Muslims following the Babri massacre an the Gujrat riots.
Plese dont make false accusations against Pakistan... Sikhs are not being killed and never have been killed in Pakistan. One sikh killed by criminals is unfortunate but hardly relevant. If your trying to turn us into villains based solely on the unfortunate death of one individual, then dont forget how many of your people were killed in India.
Im sorry but , while we have had violence in Pakistan, fortunately we have not had these mass genocides with THOUSANDS of people from a particular community dead.

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Tell that to the Bengalis who were systemalically killed by the state of Pakistan .... and no one was charged for that genocide !!!!

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How many times do I have to tell you this before you get this through your head.

The Bengal war was a civil war, and the crimes commited were by a rogue army, reprersenting an unelected govt, fighting a civil war situation. MAny Armies have commited many war crimes in war situations. Particularly during civil wars.

Unlike in India where mass genocide is commited by the general public, we Pakistanis have never had any riots to rival Indias... Bengal was an anomaly that occured during war time by an army. Indian riots occur during peace time and are commited by the general India public.

Sorry yo have nothing to soothe conscience. You Indians are a violent people.

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So now you blame the "rogue" army .... isn't it the same Pakistani army you defend at the drop of a hat ..... :D.

I like the way you put the blame on "rogue" army and try to move on .... the same systematic killings are being done in Pakistan now .... people of Baluchistan who have been fighting for their rights have been bearing the brunt of this "rogue " army. I dont even have to mention the "genocide" in Karachi ......

Wow ... Lashkar e Jhangi, Sipah e Sahaba, Tehhreek e Jafaria .... and i can go on and on .... are these connected with Pakistan army or they are made up of oridnary Pakistan citizens. Killings in Pakistan are conducted in organized fashion !!!!

I have said this before and am saying this again .... more mulsims have been killed in violence in Pakistan than in India. Pakistan was supposed to be this "homeland" for muslims of pre partition India ...... and the people who fought for this "homeland" ... thay are called the "mohajirs". Please take care of muslims in Pakistan first ...... before you say a word about them anywhere in the world.

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Your "general public" are in organizations like LeJ, LeT and taliban that run around bombing and killing people all over the world. So while "general public" in India participates in riots in India, your "general public" ,armed with high tech weaponry, takes part in more sophisticated international and national level massacres.

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Re: Hafiz Saeed threatens India with jihad

Yar hafiz saeed to waqai hi Indians ki roots mai bayth gia hai.lol

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I blame them because thats a fact. Nothing done during the civil war was done on the behalf of the Pakistani people. The general public never had any inkling of the situation. There are crimes commited by Armies all the time. The US soldiers during Vietnam were implicated in massacring whole villages. Does that mean the US people had sanctioned it?
(Unlike in Kashmir however, where Army atrocities are common place and are supported by the Indian public.)
Very different from the case in India.
Balochis will get their independance if they must. And if the situation is such that it should warrant such action, then so be it. But Balochistan issue will be resolved eventually. We arent Indian after all. Already the issue is settling down and eventually the problem will have to be resolved.

The groups you refer to are terrorsit organizations. All organizations are made up of individuals. But you dont consider criminal gangs as cvilians. They are distinct from the general public. When members of a criminal organization are killed by police, we dont call that a murder of civilians. There are also terrorist organizations in India, as well as criminal organizations. All of whom have commited all kinds of violent acts. But you dont blame the Maoist murder of police officers on the general Indian public do you?
Ofcourse, like I said, many of the worst crimes in India are commited not by career criminals or terrorists but by normal everyday Indians just like you.
Also, at what point to you consider these organizations as criminal anyways? They are fighting Indian occupation of Kashmir. Thats makes them freedom fighters. If their activity involves Pakistan, then they are criminals.

Point stands. While in Pakistan, crimes are commited by known terrorsits, just as anywhere else in the world, nothing rivals India mass riots and genocides commited by the general public.

In India, people just like you, who arent members of any organization are walking about having commited the most heinous crimes you could imagine. There are thousands of average Indians who have butchered women and children and walk about like any other Indian citizen, and not a single one of them will be brought to trial.

And this nonsense about more Muslims being killed in Pakistan is garbage. You may have said it beforem but it was as much garabage then as it is now. 2 seperate riot inicdents in India equal nearly 6000 Muslims... We Pakistanis may be victims of someone elses wars, but you people are yourselves responsible for the murder of thousands of your own people.

And like I said before. Pakistans problems will pass. The Taliban will die out and the US will leave Afghanistan eventually. But Indias riots and mass murders will happen again like clock work.

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No. Those organizations are criminal groups. They are not the general public. There are criminal and terrorist groups all around the world and their activities are never blamed on the the general public. That is why you punish terrorsits and their organizations, you dont punish an entire people.
There is a distinction there...

In India, the mass genocides were not caried out by terrorsit organization or criminals. They were carried out byaverage Indians...

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average indians do not participate in riots. they just want to live their lives peacefully. the ones that carry out riots are thugs and criminals. they are just not sophisticated as the ones in pakistan. so one mistakes them for average indians.

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Ahh… So your thugs and criminals can instantaneously organize into a mob of THOUSANDS to take part in mass murder??? I have to admit, India is pretty unique in this case. Seems every other person in India is a thug.
Most Indians would love to live in peace so long as no Muslim or any other minority ever piss them off:)

Please dont fool yourself. You know aswell as I do that Indians riots are orchestrated by your esteemed politician and carried out by people just like you…

Terrorists exist in every country. They arent unique to Pakistan.. But only in the twisted mind of an Indian would the criminal activities of a particular group be blamed on all individuals of said ethnicity or nation.

By your logic, we should blame all Italians for the mafia, and all Irish for the IRA, and all Arab or Muslims for Al Qaeda.

(Ironic that you should mentions “thugs.” Thugs are so synonymous with India that its in fact an Indian word… :hehe: )

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India has over a billion people, so our thugs are in thousands. Yes they are organized by people with power.

And i am not blaming all of Pakistan for acts of terrorism. Talking trash about religions, countries and ethnic groups is your specialty. You do it all the time. Your vulgar and hateful posts are full of such generalizations. So you are the one with a twisted mind.

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The scripture can be labeled as one of the oldest in the history of man-kind, it is written on the paper of lust with the ink of greed covered in the gold and silver... nowadays it is covered with $$$ bills... RAW is not doing anything new, they are writing the scripture and selling it to the one who believes in it.. i wonder with your all knowledge ( i think you have got alot) do you think the follower of stated scripture represent any particular religion or their attitude can be different even if they live miles away from each other...

A muslim suppose not to kill any human, unless and until he is in a war or the killing of the other person is justified... Hafiz Saeed, is the one who portray himself one who is fighting the occupied forces in an occupied region... in simple wording, they are called freedom fighters.. same way, Indians use to mention the terrorists of Mukti Bahni and their sympathizers ( Late 60s) as freedom fighters, so if it is right then how come it is wrong now.. or may it is matter of personal interest which decide the wrong and right... Eastern Wing of Pakistan was never a disputed territory.. yet Indians did sponsored the terrorism in that part, Kashmir is disputed territory for last 60 odd years... and the people of valley are just doing what they deem necessary to gain their freedom of choice which is abducted by the country of genius people who for some reason only consider people of certain religion as humans.. and rest as nuisance... may be it is the democratic way or may be this is written in your scripture... or maybe it is pure hypocrisy from your side...

Yeah rightly mentioned, I almost forgot about it, since Ajmal Qasab has issued a new statement, the media the state and all other stake holder has gone quiet on it??? i wonder why!!! if you do no re-call, your so-called terrorist said that he was picked up the security forces earlier.. please google to find out his latest statement.. i am saying this because the only way you very intelligent agencies find out about Hafiz Saeed .. so the same source is saying something else.. earlier the things were not directly said by him, it was confession made under police custody, later came in the court room...

But yes, the genius people like you only believes the confession made under the police torture, they do not give any importance to things said in court as the trial is a mere show-off ... the targets of the conspiracy has been achieved...

Now please can you tell me why Hafiz Saeed is against India? please try to reasonable... I know you can...