Got a new pet.... "puppy"

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What does the list of myths I presented relate to a warning of bad side-effects? Are dogs that impure that they have to be singled out from all other pets? Why not equal 'warnings' of the danger presented by cat or bird droppings? Toxoplasmosis is a much more serious helath hazard than dog saliva.

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all dog owners treat their dogs like a child? no
most dog owners treat their dogs like a child? no, that just means u havn't really came in contact with alot of dog owners.

seminole is absoultely right about the whole cultural antidog perspective that has become a part of the subcontinent.

go talk to muslims from other parts of the world, and see what they have to say about dogs.

in our culture in the indo-pak region dogs are disliked,
pigs on the other hand are hated, people for the "love of islam" actually kill pigs (We are not suppose to consume pigs, but where does it say to go kill them).

its mostly the lack of knowledge where school teachers and mullahs preach to an extent that "DO not even say the word PIG"

with that same mentality it has become a part of our indo-pak culture to consider dogs najis/napak and makruh

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In my honest opinion, this discussion is going nowhere and it is pointless. Muslims should stick to the Prophet's (PBUH) decision which is dogs are only permissible to keep if they serve the purpose of hunting, guarding and sheep herding and the like.

Cats are different, read the Hadiths. Salam

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When I said 'bad side effects', it didn't necessarily mean a disease, people keep snakes, lizards, falcons as 'pets'. Why 'dog' singled out, well even it is discouraged to keep birds 'caged' I don't know if it is 'equally bad' (as keeping a dog) or not, don't have its exact 'hadith' but thats what I remember. The ones who really want to keep can surely go ahead, they can risk the possible 'blessings' if they so love the dog (or 'pet'), these are tests for the "beleivers" not for anyone else.

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Dogs go into garbage, chewing up used toilet paper, bloody pads and tampons. They sniff each others butts and then their owners tongue kiss them. Sorry I know that’s disgusting, but then that’s the only way to describe how grosss they are.

So what abt houses where dogs are living against ur marzi :bummer: Do we not get blessings :frowning:

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“all” is your addition. I have known many dog owners, and yeah…it’s kind of sick what some owners do with their pet, or let their pet get away with. That’s not an argument against dogs…just pointing out that some pet owners are insane…and imho dog owners top the list. Perhaps it is because dogs are lovable that some of their owners go all ga-ga, or to the point of being offended that the dog’s saliva is considered ritually impure …“but what about the cat!” they cry…who the hell cares? :halo:

On the contrary, we in the West are the ones with the whole “pets are people too”…

I had a pet cat once. One day it disappeared. Next day, I got a new one. And that was that. Few years later, a colleague at work sent out an email…turned out to be a eulogy for her recently deceased pet cat. I didn’t have the heart to say it, but that was rather pathetic.

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how responsible,
im' sure thats what YOUR islam teaches you?

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The pind where mums side comes from in pak, wild boars/pigs are killed because they are a pest, they destroy crops, and it has nothing to do with the ''love of islam'' like you say.

My cousin keeps a dog, he keeps it in his garden, converted a shed into a kennel, and the dog is comfortable.and is treated well, He bought it for sercurity purposes,and never comes indoors, so you see muslims too, keep dogs, only difference is, a dog is kept in its place.
You have to draw the line, when people bring the dog indoors and treat it like it was anything more, is not fair on the dog.an animal is an animal, humanising it, by giving it the love you would to a baby, is selfish on the owners side.

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Next people will start asking is it ok to have sex with dogs like some people here tried to convince that in Islam its ok to do oral between couples. Hello!!! This thread should be closed.

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Oh give me a break. It ran away...probably got run over. Yeah, yeah...so sad...but what would you have me do? Hold a funeral?

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yeah, that is not mentinoed in Quran :hmmm:

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Can anyone shed some light on why it is forbidden to keep a dog as a pet but not for hunting or protection? There has to be reason to distinguish these uses of a dog. If someone would but realize it has to do with the nature of a dog. When kept as a pet it almost starts worshipping its master (unless it becomes rabid). This kind of behavior is condemned in Islam i.e. all worship is for Allah SWT. Would anyone want to touch up on this while presenting all their arguments.

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Even dogs must worship Allah?

But even a dog for protection or hunting could exhibit these same 'worshipping' traits.

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Yes it could but not to the extent of what it would when kept as a pet. Additionally the dog would be kept because of a certain interest not friendship.

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Ahhh, there are levels of shirk? And still not answered, are dogs commiting shirk when they 'worship' their human masters?

So it's ok to have a dog for hunting but not 'friendship'? How is this achieved, by being very masculine and distant with the animal? No petting, praising or giving of treats? I hate to tell you but even if you achieve this distant, burly-man objective, a dog can still demonstrate these 'worshipping' traits.

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ooooooh hot discussion ova Dawgs!!!

All i had like to add in is tht i agree wid ppl who r of the opinion tht Dogs r allowed for the sake of guarding u ir ur home...their saliva is najaiz if it touches u or ur dress u r no more PAAK cats r Paak....but keeping dogs inside ur home just for the sake of u know being frnds isnt allowed.....i luv dogs too but the PAAK factor keeps me at a distance frm dogs......

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Which is why we distance ourselves unless it is required, many things become permissble out of necessity, which are not during normal circumstances. I don't know about a dogs shirk however we should try to prevent ourselves from becoming objects of worship (or becoming part of a shirk). So if I have a better way of hunting game animal without a dog then I should choose that or if I can guard myself without the presence of a dog then that would be preferable. And remember the means of achieving these things 1400 years ago were quite different as they are today. Many factors to consider.

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I disagree with that, dog might be all over you for your being 'the feeding hand/caretaker' as well as company but that shouldn't be translated as 'start worshipping'.

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It symbolizes that sort of relationship. A dog can be so loyal to you that it will support you in all your wrong actions as well. You just tell it to tear someone apart and it will happily do it for your sake. Btw the way I was just shedding some light on why it is forsaken only as a pet but not others. May be you can answer?

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^ I am not too fond of dogs as pet therefore I never did enough research on it, my personal opinion then would be biased to stay away from them. We don't necessarily have to know all the 'rationale' for all haram/halal/forbidden actions if we are 'believer' in God and His Prophet PBUH.