Re: Good Non-Muslim People
Judge... I dont judge, im not the one condemning them... Thats for god to decide...
It is human, however, to use reason and logic to deduce what god may deem fit for the likes of Al Qaeda and others like them.
Pehaps God will forgive such people, not for me to say. Personally, from my understanding, I believe that those who dont embody the traits that are most closest to god, are they who are fathest from god... These people are in essence, already in hell... This I think is not judging, this stating a fact, because what more can be considered a hellish existance then not being within the essence of god?
Far be it for me to judge them, but the very concept of a loving god, that is forgiving and compassionate excludes those who contradict those traits, as those indviduals who contradict the essence of god have created their own seperation from god, and hence their place in hell.
I ascribe to the Sufi understanding of hell and god...
Peace again PaKpatriot1
I can only say that you are prescribing to the adulterated form of Sufi understanding. You say you don't judge, but then you negate yourself with your 'however', again bringing the example of Al-Qaeda that your Sufi understanding has brought you on. That they exist or not or that there are worse examples than 'the image created about them' in this world is of no concern to your 'understanding'.
I said nothing explicit regarding your assertion that people need to embody the traits most closest to god. It seems that you are confused between the word 'closest to god' and bring it into an essence conversation. That is bordering deviant speak. I hope you could clarify. I did try to show that attempting to embody the traits of God is not possible, nor is it allowed. To merely say it is not enough. It cannot be done in a wholesome manner. Allah (SWT) is Most Just, we are to be just in our actions, but it is wrong to assume it is because it is like being 'god'. For God dons Pride, but that is not allowed for us. The theory you present has obvious exceptions.
Then you present the argument that such people are in a 'hellish existence' again with your fallback to the alleged 'Sufi' understanding. This understanding negates the Akhira. It presupposes that this world and this life is the manifest one. You have not accounted for the fact that this world is a deceptive one and that people may be in turmoil or anguish for their own good, not because it defines a 'hellish existence' for them, but it purifies them for the Akhira.
God has Attributes that you present about Him, but He also has Attributes that you are either hiding or dismissing and that is where you are mistaken about your idea that we need to be like God.