Shikra by ‘our girls’ I didn’t mean ‘our property’, its just coz they belong to our community, it’s just like a soccer team skipper saying ‘our lads’, what’s the big deal? It’s like saying ‘our community’, ‘our people’ etc.
I know what sort of Hijaabi girls you are talking about but again these sort of pseudo-religious girls are usually from open minded families, their parents might tell them to wear a Hijaab but they wont take the other necessary precautions. By you mentioning girls using the library and the female friends house excuse you’ve just backed up my point, I don’t think I need to argue this any further…
The situation I described about the girl and the 40yr old happens when girls are given ridiculous amount of freedom and/or maybe sometimes when restrictions are suddenly imposed upon the girl and they are too much for her and she feels frustrated, I agree it shouldn’t be forced parents should Islamically educate their kids and bring them up this way from the cradle, so that when they are older it doesn’t feel like oppression which it clearly isn’t, their mindset has to be made that way from a young age. In my village in Pakistan we have segregation and the women are happier than any woman I have come across in England or Pak cities, professional women here suffer from depression, stress, anorexia and other problems but in my village the housewives are happy and always laughing taking each day as it comes without any worries because the men take care of everything, everything runs smoothly, the men have a world of their own with their own social circles and the women their own, the opposite genders which they interact with are their direct relatives and their own spouses and that’s the way it should be, they are happy because they have been bought up this way and that’s what Muslim parents should do here.
Yaar I’m not fighting I’m just using the proper words to describe these people the only objectionable word I used was “pet dog”.
I am not from NWFP, my district was originally part of NWFP but the British gave it to Punjab.
21st century or 15th century, time will not have any effect on what I stand for.
a_bad_hair_cut people telling me to take it off??? Yeah right, more like they were saving it on their hard drives and printing out copies to go on their bedroom wall. After all I’m a chick magnet (sorry I can’t help it). Wheatish complexioned, muscular, tall guys like me are very rare to find amongst Desis, most of them look like dark lamas, with their “short back and sides blade naught” and long brown necks sticking out, all look the same, I too have a “short back and sides blade naught” but mines is cool coz I’m stocky like a military person.
irem lol yeah of course 
Femme Fatale maybe no person has said it in this thread but I know how they think of us, the lies I here about how we oppress and our women are unhappy and our society is messed up but that all couldn’t be further from the truth, we have to put up with the posh Pakistanis in the media coming out with rubbish and lies about us so why does a few posts talking the truth about posh Pakis is hurting you so much?
you are making assumptions, I didn’t say girls from these sort of backgrounds always turn out like that there’s exceptions but they are in the minority. Self-righteous, I don’t know I just feel our way is right otherwise I wouldn’t have felt so strongly about it, now if I say that I’m right but so is someone who does the opposite of what I do that wouldn’t make any sense.
waqas72, ahh another coconut, you’re a school teacher aren’t you? You sound like two teachers I’ve had in the past, are you called Mr Sideeqi or Mr Daud by any chance? Maybe it’s just that all British Desi teachers are all the same, coconuts.
What sort of Islam do you follow anyway? I’ve seen with your likes an Aayat or Hadees will clearly state something but you’ll prefer some twisted beyond comprehension explanation for it and derive the most absurd meanings in order to be moderate.
Before you talk of Afghanistan, do you even know what it was like over there? I’ve had first hand experience and trust me mate it wasn’t no where near as bad you make it out to be, there was poverty but that was all thanks to the west, if you want to know women are treated in Afghanistan go read about that Christian missionary aid worker who has reverted to Islam after coming back from Afghanistan and what she had to say about how she was treated. Some people are just to blind to see beyond fake video footages and what Bush baaba says.
M, diplomacy? I don’t like compromising my views just to get people to agree with me because that is kind of pointless. I’m not saying what I think I’m saying what I know; the result and outcome of what I am against are all around us.
a_bad_hair_cut why re you jealous? Shows who the hunk is. Trust people like you to make something true/normal sound-like the worst insult ever with your language skills.
ASHTI meri jaan u r so cute 
