Giving birth on visitor's visa

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^exactly... we are all immigrants here.. I am the first one in my family who decided to stay here with my husband.. none of my other family members live here and thats teh choice they made because they didnt want to deal with the immigration hassle! It wasnt easy for me but I chose to study here, find a job here, and then sponsor my husband to move here..Initially we had no intentions to live here so I never applied for him but then once he applied for a visitor visa while we were nikahfied to attend my graduation he was refused saying that have your wife apply for immigrant visa! Apparently if you have the means to go for immigrant visa, they dont offer non immigrant visa that is a visitor visa!

I will be very surprised to know that US embassy is aware of their marriage and still giving her the visitors visa to come here.. very unlikely but of course there are exceptions.

Anyway, I am sensitive about this subject because I did everything legal and it took my husband and myself years before we got together following the right protocol.. and now while working I have to pay for insurance, co payments, etc while people on visitor visa or not working on green card benefit from system!!!

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Yeah I agree but don't you think in this specific situation the husband is paying taxes and when he really needs government help, he should get help vs. someone who does nothing and then ask for help. The guy works hard, pay taxes, is here legally, wife is living here legally with him and when its time to go back to her country she will. Now if a couple like this truly wants help from the government don't they deserve it?

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who said having babies is easy.. you have to compromise and sacrifice a lot!!!:D

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Only permanent residents and citizens are entitled to government help. His wife is neither so why should she get any help? It's the law of the country and should be respected. Also, indigents need government help, not doctors! What help do they exactly need? It's not as if they are in a situation where it's dangerous for the wife to go back home. Also, was she pregnant when she flew in or did she get pregnant while she was here? Either way, they KNOW she shouldn't have the baby here being on a visitor's visa and should go back...the fact that they are even considering to have the baby here while on a visitor's visa clearly indicates they ARE trying to trick the system...and unfortunately lots of desis/latinos are guilty of this.

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No. The couple in your situation doesn't "NEED" the government's help. They want it. Firstly, the guy obviously is not "settled" in his career or in his legal status here in this country....yet he decided that he's ready to be a husband. Fine. Once married...being a DOCTOR...he obviously knows all about family planning. One would think that a DOCTOR would be extra careful in getting his wife pregnant knowing their financial/legal situation.

My fiance is a doctor and as a result, I know quite a few doctors in all specialties. This DOCTOR husband is not "poor" by any means. He's not disabled and it's not like he's working at a $5/hr gas menial job.

As someone already wrote before....Visitor's visas are not given out to people if the embassy suspects that they might decide to permanently stay here. The fact that the wife got a visitor's visa despite her husband having a GC makes me think that they have hidden their marriage from the U.S. Embassy. It makes me think that the husband doesn't have his wife listed anywhere on his immigration paper work and the wife never reveated that she has a GC holder as a husband in the U.S. As a doctor, I don't see any reason why the husband doesn't have health insurance. And I also don't see any reason why he can't add his wife to his health insurance. The only logical explanation I can think of is that he hid the fact that he's married and that's why he's CHOOSING not to add her. If you can provide another reason that explains why the DOCTOR husband isn't adding her to his health insurance....I'm open to listening.

Why doesn't the wife go back to her country and give birth there? B/C the husband wants to be there for the birth....and I'm sure she also wants her husband there. Again....a WANT.....not a NEED.

Social services are meant for people who really need them. People who are disabled and can't work. And people who truly don't have the money....who're working 70-80 hours a week and still can't make ends meet. Heck I'll go as far as to say that even "visitor's" who truly face an emergency should use them (ie. an accident). But a DOCTOR's wife who came here on a visitor's visa and knows she's pregnant but can't afford to pay for birth?!! Are you kidding me?

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if he is a doctor then he can easily pay out of pocket.
now most insurance programs have a "life event" clause, if you get married or have a kid they get covered.
it varies from insurance program to program, but some do allow for a spouse living overseas to be covered when they move to (or move back to) US.
if he can add her to his insurance that would be the simplest way here, tell him to call his benefits manager, make those HR ppl work for a change

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Pregnancy is not an emergency but one can complain of any symptoms that are consider to be and get all the tests done. For a pregnant woman the hospitals run every test under the book. I am not advocating milking the system but there are MAJOR loopholes in US healthcare system.

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then the husband should pay out of pocket for all pregnancy care ... all the way up to and including delivery. If he is a physician he should certainly be able to afford it. that's really the only morally and legally correct way to do this.

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double

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not true.
ER'-s are wise to the scam and pregnant ladies will NOT get ALL the tests done. we will only run very specific medico'-legally required tests and then refer you to a free clinic or county hospital. Done it countless time personally ... including to a desi lady who came in wanting an abortion on the last day that the state law permits ....

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depends on the hospital and how strict the practices are. I had to go into the ER during my pregnancy while I was at my parents house in another state and they had done every test which they do in a well visit with your OB (blood pressure, blood work, fetal monitor). Unless you have complications, the basics are covered.

and I didn't know hospitals would do abortions. which state is this?

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NY. No, most hospitals across the country and zero ER'-s provide pregnancy termination services. That was my point ... ppl walk into ER with all sorts of expectations ..... as in the example I mentioned ....... her exact words (said quite smugly) were "I'-m in the ER now ... its your responsibility to do this"_ ..... yeah ... NOT!
not limited to OB ... I can not tell you the number of times ppl come in expecting endoscopies, an annual physical, vaccinations, MRI because their friend just had one .... anyhoo I digress

In terms of BP, blood work .... you'-ll get your vitals checked even if you walk in with a stubbed toe and probably even unnecessary blood work (if you get a poorly trained, spineless doc) if you walk in with gas, or headache or knee pain .... :D

In this particular case .. referring to OP segment below ...

"_How do you do it on visitor's visa? Insurance, after care, baby's insurance, monthly/weekly checkups, any complications, scans... how do you do it?"_

... getting the basics done in th6e ER is going to be grossly inadequate as proper prenatal care (you hardly need the ER for bp check at cost of several hundred dollars ... when a $40 machine can do the job at home). particularly if there is an abnormality noted in the basics ... what then? ... we are back to square one ... in need an OB, MFM specialist, hospitalization ...

believe it or not ... while we can not by law turn away pts from ER ... their insurance status does play a role in what kind of a workup they will get ... with full disclosure of course. Most pts when told of the cost of non'-emergent workup elect to leave ...

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Ok so point of this thread was to get info on prenatal care, delivery all that on visitor's visa. I had no clue how things worked for someone who is visiting hence this thread.

To answer some of the questions here, the guy is a doctor but I never said that he is working as a doctor. He just doesn't want to risk his career/life doing something wrong that's why the couple asked some friends to get information on all this. He is currently working in research some of which pays him and some don't but he still pays his taxes just like anyone else would.

Its also very very wrong to assume that just because you are a doctor you would have all the money. When I got pregnant, at week 22 my baby was diagonsed with developmental issues and just alone my emergency MRI cost us 2500+, I am not even going to mention the scans I had every other week, my appointments with surgeons. I used to have 2-3 appointments a week seeing different doctors. We could've never afford this all out of our own pocket if we didn't have insurance. And my husband is a doctor. There is no way we could pay for all the expenses plus my baby's NICU stay. So just because you have a M.D in front of your name doesn't mean you could afford it all.

And lastly, I think I mentioned earlier in the thread that the husband in question didn't sponsor for his wife's visa because he wants to wait for copule of more months before he becomes a citizen himself. So anyone who is thinking that the couple lied to immigration.. umm no they didn't. The wife got visit visa and she entered the US with her husband.

Khair all in all, its not a good option for this couple to have their baby here while the wife is on visit visa.

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1) That's fine that he's working in "research". But are you saying that the hospital/Uni/company....whatever he works for does NOT provide health insurance at all?

2) I completely agree with the 2nd paragraph. The reason I highlighted the 2 sentences.....as a doctor, your husband is smart enough to realize that health insurance is a "must" for his family! Even without the wife being pregnant...an "emergency" would occur at any minute. That's why I'm surprised that the friend's husband...another DOCTOR, chooses not to carry health insurance for his wife.

3) Doctors aren't millionaires. The doctors I know make an average of 350K (before taxes)....while a few make upto 450K. The "lowest" paying doctor I know makes about 90K. You're right that doctors don't have "all the money". BUT....in a doctor's salary, they're not in "need" of public services paid for other taxpayers that're meant for the poor and truly needy such as the disabled.

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I am sure your fiance could explain this better. Not every research positions are; a. paid b. have all the benefits. My husband also does research in cardiology.. and guess what he brings home form that.... $0.. no benefits.. nothing.. All this research doctors do is for studies and publish papers.

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Fiance doesn't need to explain anything. We have 2 friends who're in research. 1 gets paid good...the other lives off his wife's M.D. salary. But guess what....when a man has a pregnant wife who doesn't have a stable job w/ benefits (especially in the U.S.)....perhaps that's a time for him to think about his responsibilities and how he's going to PAY for the responsiblities he CHOSE to have.

It's great that someone wants to devote their life to research & publishing papers....but that still doesn't make it "ok" for them to expect that me and other taxpayers will pay for their "wants" (having a wife & child at the end of the day is a "want").

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The poor fellow has been made to look like such a loser who just wants everything free and does not want to be responsible for his family and wants to mess with the legal immigration system..!!

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I know right.. Just because the wife is pregnant. Don’t we have enough guppans who have done this. I guess I shouldn’t have asked here :bummer:

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That's a whole different topic. This thread should die... its been derailed ... kon si baat ki thi.. kahan baat aa gaei. Doctors ki life shuru ho gaei hai yahan. I don't care who's fiance's or who's friend is a doctor. I asked a simple question.. is it legally doable or not..

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^well see none of us are aware of exactly what their program is and you havent made that clear either.. If he buys the visitors insurance and takes care of all of this, we are not judging him at all.. she could have twins and we could care less.. but if he is looking for a way out without insurance and just having his wife give birth here, most of us have a problem with it!!

The way you make it sound like he is just doing research and isnt getting any pay or benefits.. what kind of taxes he is paying then? I dunno there are just too many loopholes in the story!

I dunno its complicated.. if their heart agrees to it, they can do whatever they want to but they are not going to get any respect or sympathy from me just because the wife is pregnant!!!

If you find out more, keep us all posted too so we can know how can a visitor have a baby here without us feeling bad :-)