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*Originally posted by Munni: *
Please elaborate as to how. Thanks.
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well in a sense to encourage and support them more as the society do not encourage people on following islamic dress code and when it is must.
and u have asked for more respect which itself defines that those not wearing hijab do and should be respected with those wearing little more
may v all be guided
based entirely on appearances, i tend to see hijabans as 'conflicting' with the setup and 'odd'.. kinda like hasidic jews or guys with skull caps or unkempt beards and ankle high trousers.
Aray naraz na ho, i was just asking 
Fayz :k:
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*Originally posted by Fayz: *
similarly, a girl in hijab probably wants respect…
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Does a girl wearing normal baggy clothing want respect, in your opinion? How does it differ from a girl who wears hijab? The wanting respect that is.
Interesting point, Munni.
I honesrly don't know who I would think wants mores respect.. a hijabi in tight clothing, or a non-hijabi in baggy clothing...
Everyone wants to be treated with respect…whether you deserve it or earn it comes from your actions not only from your outlook. Girls in hijab make a statement more so than the ones who don’t (considering the whole nine yards that come with religion)..now whether they deserve it is dependant on their actions.
If someone wears a scarf and wants to be treated with respect doesn’t necessarily dictate that the ones who wear baggy pants are whores. You can’t equate the two. Its not an algebraic equation. smile
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You can’t equate the two. Its not an algebraic equation. *smile
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Some in this thread are equating the two, this is what I would like clarified.
Maddy, so you assume a girl not in hijab and who is wearing a frumpy shirt but with tight jeans, doesnt want as much respect as the next person? Please clarify (not taking a dig at you), thanks.
"respect" is something u earn with ur attitude and behaviour towards people. it has nothing to do with hijab or no hijab. i have seen girls wearing hijab and screwing around and girls not wearing hijab, being down to earth and decent. personally i find hijabis are more judgemental and hypocrites ( just a generalization, not all girls are like that i am sure. just a personal opinion).
Just to throw another wrench in, I have another question which relates to this.
I have some male muslim friends that love watching movies. Now if you ask them who their favorite actress is, or whom they would like to meet, they usually have someone in mind to name. Some of these same friends are ones who also believe women who wear hijab should get more respect than one who doesnt. I am wondering now if they have similar respect for these actresses, or because of their profession they are not held to the same standard? Is it a double standard? Thanks.
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Some of these same friends are ones who also believe women who wear hijab should get more respect than one who doesnt. I am wondering now if they have similar respect for these actresses, or because of their profession they are not held to the same standard? Is it a double standard? Thanks.
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Here's another line, you might want to ponder on.
Just because someone is a gigolo or a prostitute doesn't mean they don't deserve respect.
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*Originally posted by CocoNut: *
Here's another line, you might want to ponder on.
Just because someone is a gigolo or a prostitute doesn't mean they don't deserve respect.
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I agree with that, but my question refers to clothing, and the fact that for one, a person completely bypasses the fact that there is little of it, and for another, they are looked down upon it because they arent covering enough. I'd like to know if this is considered a double standard.
I know of a family who refuse to watch Pakistani dramas as they believe that acting is haram and is supposedly clearly not permitted in Islam. They see it as people “whoring” themselves. 
For some reason, it doesn’t apply to Indian films as they usually star Hindus. That’s their justification for watching Bollywood films.
Just the headscarf itself does command a certain degree of respect but theres a lot more to HIJAB...if the HIJAB is missing from someone who wears a headscarf, then the headscarf alone is not enough to win my longterm respect though for the first impression it might.
Okay so what I am gathering is, outward apperance is very important to many of you regarding respect.
You can see a person who doesnt wear hijab and a person who does, and the one wearing hijab will automatically earn a bit of your respect, whereas the one not wearing it will not earn any unless you talk to them or see outwardly other things they are doing and then perhaps maybe they can earn some?
Actually Munni, lets put it this way, if I see two girls from the back, one is wearing a mini skirt and the other is wearing a hijab and an abaya, the one with hijab and abaya will earn my respect though I won't disrespect the one in miniskirt either. I'll just be neutral towards her.
Once I talk to them though, it might be different. It depends on the feel I get about their personalities after speaking with them and observing them walk, talk and interact with others.
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the mini skirt example was ofcourse for non Muslims.
i used to have a friend in college, non Muslim, who used to wear like really tight n somewhat revealing clothes and stuff, but basically that was not to invite attention from guys, she was steady with her boyfriend and very faithful to him. she just liked to look nice and like what she saw in the mirror plus the community she was from, alot of girls dress like that.
on the other hand i have known some hijabis who even though they did hijab used to try to get attention from guys.
so its all relative.
being a female, you can tell which other female is really 'shareef' from her heart and does not invite unnecessary attention from guys. thats the type of female i respect the most, hijabi or mini skirt clad, and I think thats real HIJAB.
Thanks for the example irem, and i do understand that people think as you do. That was a good example. smile
I'd also like to hear from those that dont feel that way however. And for them to elaborate as to their reasoning. Thanks.
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I have to say, as crude as it sounds, and as factually incorrect as I know it to be, by instinct whenever I spot a hijabi girl versus a non-hijabi girl, I react in two different ways.
The hijabi girl I immediately mentally label as not wanting men to look at her, so I will tend to look away from her. The non-hijabi girl I will mentally label as being that way because she does not mind men looking at her, so I will not as often look away from her.
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When you are speaking about yourself how can you be factually incorrect?
Maybe you should think a bit about your mental labels. The world has a lot of inaccurate mental labels about muslim men too.
As a muslim man, please bear in mind you are commanded to cast your eyes downwards before women are told to dress modestly. Nowhere does it say that some women are OK to stare at, or harass, or be disrespectful of and others aren't.
well i have read some replies,
here is what I think about it,
The girl or women who wear hijab for any reason, yes I do have respect for them. either they are muslim or others dressed modestly.
but i dont consider they are more relegious or better than when compared to non hijabis. cause there are very nice women who dont wear hijab but that doesnt mean they are any less than who wear hijab. similarly whoever wear hijab because of any reason. doent mean they are all angels.
and I hate it when i see a hijab wearing girl start french kissing a guy on streets or in campus. its not i have any right to judge them, but if they wear it, they should have respect for it too. these two things doesnt go along, i dont understand what they are proving. to me its disgrace to a highly respectable dress.
There is a marked difference in the way hijaabis are treated. When my sister started wearing the hijaab she was so happy, other Muslim men would refer to her as 'sister', be extra nice in the halaal grocery store and keep a respectable distance. She noted a definite change in the behaviour of men.