I'd like more comments like the last three. Those are the examples I was referring to.
Maddy, is that the only thing you think diffently about the non-hijabi? That she may want to be looked at, or is there more to it than that?
**When I see a hijabi I don't go
Oooh La la angel of heaven because among hijabis
I've seen some of the worst defiants when it comes
to religion and chastity. It's sad but it's true
that hijab isn't what it used to be even like 5 years
ago. Now it's a fashion statement, a front most
often than not to place one's self as such which
they in reality are most likely not.
Hijab on the head or not, I have respect only
for people who have the hijab on the inside.
It's not an external covering but a state of
being. Putting a hijab on one's head who doesn't
have any modesty on the inside isn't going to
do much for that person. True that Islam commands
for the heads to be covered but from my personal
experience (school/community) it's been a while
since I saw a hijabi person doing
hijab solely for that purpose.
Having said that, I wouldn't give any special
treatment, regards, thoughts to anyone just
because they happen to be wearing a hijab
or not. In fact, due to some personal witnessing
I go out of my way to avoid someone who wears
a hijab. I don't want to take the time to even
bother knowing their agendas behind it anymore.
Wearing a hijab and chatting with guys or doing
that khe khe khe laughing is not really a charmer.
I know there are probably girls out there who
have a hijab penetrating deeper than the mere
outer covering and for those I'm sure they'll
find people equally as chaste to be their friends/relatives
and so forth. For me I hold doors open, and am
polite with anyone and everyone. As long as
a person has self respect meaning they have
enough respect to cover themselves decently (no showing
of flesh or skin) are polite, at least attempt to fulfill
huqooq Allah and huqooq ul Ibaad
and are good human beings (have value for a genuine
life being) then I have respect for
them. **
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*Originally posted by MehnazQ: *
That's great. However, what about those girls who wear hijabs due to family/cultural pressure? What about those girls who wear it just "for show"? Would you feel the same way about those hijaabans out there who wear a hijab with skin tight clothes?
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I think Munni is talking about first impression that guys get when they see a hijabi or non-hijabi girl. Obviously, if you see a hijabi or non-hijabi for the first time there's no way you can tell about her character, or can you?
According to my personal experience, guys also don't respect hijabis who wear skin tight clothes. Hijabi or non-hijabi, doesn't matter. If you aren't covering yourself appropriately then you will be stared at or be disrespected.
However, usually the first time you see a person his/her appearance will be most important to you(read the replies in Munni's other thread). There are really NO other factors you can use to know how to react with the other person. When guys see a "appropriately dressed" hijabi girl, they will automatically get a red flag. Most won't stare too much or flirt with her. Why? because in their mind they think she does not want to be looked at or be "checked out" and that's only the first time she's seen. If guys see the same girl with a bunch of guys chatting with her or touching her then they will treat her the same way they generally treat non-hijabis. Hijab gives woman a modest look! I know you can be modest from the inside and you can be better Muslim than a hijabi but in first impression your appearance is the most important thing whether it's right or wrong. Before you can hear or talk to other person you see their appearannce. Look at Munni's other thread, read your own response, compare it with this thread and tell me what is the difference? I don't understand how you should get upset about people treating hijabis differently when you're doing the same thing- treating someone differently because of his/her appearance!
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*Originally posted by CurruptAngel: *
If guys see the same girl with a bunch of guys chatting with her or touching her then they will treat her the same way they generally treat non-hijabis.
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Now that is some high quality crap. No kidding!
Are you sure that is what you meant CA?
Excuse me CA, but what exactly are you talking about? In the other thread, I clearly noted that the whole attitude is incredibly judgmental and I acknowledged that fact. Where did I state that I don't bother giving a person a chance though? Granted, the thread was about being checked out by men and in those instances, I don't give either the good-looking or non-attractive men a chance to take things further as for me, that would be absolutely inappropriate. I'm sure you will understand that given the delicacy of a guy/girl situation. :)
If it were a friendship though, I would never judge somebody based solely on their appearance. I've had that done to me so I know what it feels like. When I read these posts by certain individuals where they state that they have no interest in getting the views and opinions of non-hijaabi women simply because they are assumed not to be worthy (as stated above) ... well, that is just idiotic!
Anyway, did you even bother reading THIS entire thread? My response was directed solely at Lajawab given HIS description of how he views hijabi and non-hijabis. You are correct when saying that I did go off topic and I did get upset. If you bother reading exactly what I was responding to, you will note his comparison of non-hijaabi girls to the women of Hustler and Playboy! Forgive me for getting upset and taking that personally since I, along with many others on this site, are non-hijaabi girls. :)
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*Originally posted by Femme Fatale: *
Now that is some high quality crap. No kidding!
Are you sure that is what you meant CA?
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Well, did you read the whole message? Let me explain it a little more - Guys don't usually don't talk to or get friendly with a hijabi but if they see guys talking to her or touching her (dont get the wrong message, i mean normal gestures) then they will not feel any "sharam" in talking to them. Not neccesarily flirt but talk or stare at them as they would do to non-hijabis.
Don’t tell me you read all his posts. 
I only read your questions and replied…sorry…:o
Phewww CA! I didn’t even have words to respond to what that appeared to be 
I don’t wear hijaab and no guy dares to mess with me. It’s about attitude and demeanor too.
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*Originally posted by Femme Fatale: *
I don't wear hijaab and no guy dares to mess with me. It's about attitude and demeanor too.
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That is very true. How you carry yourself says a lot to others. Anyway, if you are the sophisticated/classy type, guys will be too intimidated to approach you anyway. :D
Yeah, I brought that topic because it’s related to this thread. If I’m not wrong you said if a good looking guy stares at you then you DON’T feel as disgusted as you would if he wasn’t. Why would you discriminate the guy who doesn’t look so good? Well, your reaction is normal. People ARE judged by their appearance in first impression!
I agree it’s wrong and if you read my message you’ll see that I said the same thing. I was talking about first impressions, not more than that. (sorry, I thought those were your general views and not towards what lajawab said)
He always says nastiest things about women 
so I don’t read his posts. I don’t like getting a headache.
ofcourse FF, who can mess with you…
ps.
That was a general statement so don’t take it personally.
I think it's not only Hijaab but onse persnoilty and manners which makes others to respect ..
so are you assumming that non-hijabans are a majority on this site?
hijabans r so sesky
but mehnaz is even seskier 
Medic yet if i remember correctly all the rumors i have heard from imperial and the rest of my guests include hijabis right?
My respect isnt doled out. It is earned. So what if she wears a headscarf. Whoppedtydo! Like it affects her personality and characteristics. Bull****. A majority of Indonesian and Malaysian women wear the headscarf. Yet they date and even sleep around.
I know for a fact that at AUC in Cairo Egypt, the ones in Hijab and Niqab were the ones normally up to the nastiest stuff. Its the social and psyhcological repression that makes them don the hijab and do what they do.
Where did I say that? All I have said is that a lot of girls on this site do not wear a hijab, as I’m sure there are many who do opt to wear it.
Well I know it's bad.. but I tend to avoid people who appear too 'religous'..
If their bakhra beard is too long or they look like a walking tent lol ..my experience has been they usually have a lot of things to be angry about and won't hesitate to share it with you every chance they get! lol
They also tend to be very good at filling your head with new and rather creative punishments to look forward to when you eventually die and burn in hell!
Yeah I already got enough worries as it is!
Though I will say it is always handy to have a few ninjas around ..they do tend to be very sweet and the most supportive of friends.. that is if you can find any that will even talk to you!
Do they get more respect for wearing a hijab?
I don't think anyone should get more respect simply based on their appearance.
I treat everyone the same unless they personally give me reason not to!
I duno why but I’ve seen many people and also its my experience that if a girl is in hijab people do give more respect to her as compared to non hijabi girl. Well the reason could be like fake scientist said ke hijabi girls do try to cover them and that’s why they get more respect than other girls. I agree with this statement as well!! Even if a girl doesn’t cover herself it doesn’t mean she isn’t respectable. I think a girl can get respect very easily by being reserved with guys.
I live in a non-desi community so I cant say for sure becuz most people kinda stay away unless they know me. A guy in school said that he would think that its perhaps disrespectful for him to talk to me or something since i wear a hijaab and its really obvious what my religion is. But I think when i go to chicago, its okay to wear it and its also okay not to wear it.
Personally i dont think hijaab makes you a better muslim. :)
Your attire does make a difference. Its like you are communicating even before you have opened your mouth. Your outfit makes a point of how you would like to be treated. You might approach a guy in suit and tie differently than someone in shorts. A girl in revealing clothes is probably inviting attention..one with high heals probably wants to intimidate.. similarly, a girl in hijab probably wants respect…I am not sure if she deserves respect or not but yeah..she does make a statement by wearing a scarf and generally desi guys don’t make the first move on girls in hijab.