Getting back with ex-husband

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If you care so much about doing what is right by Allah, why have you not looked at the reasoning behind this requirement? And if you want to get back together with your ex-husband, why was divorce not the last resort. If it was the last resort, how can you reverse your decision so quickly without giving another man an honest chance at living a good life according to the most High?

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You people are dissecting it into rituals. You have to give someone else a whole hearted, real chance. Marrying someone just to show to people that you have fulfilled the Islamic requirements is not going to cut it with Allah. He knows your intentions.

This is in the same line of thought as the Saudi princes’ use of prostitution by doing a Nikkah with a poor girl for a one night stand. You can’t out smart the All knowing, Omnicient God. People are crazy if they think they can out smart and be sneaky with God.

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^very well said

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@ Peony, Well if Saudi princes' are doing that no one is validating it! Their Ulema don't legalize it like here in subcontinent... so every1 stay away from these dirty misguided sects... and only follow and consult those who are people of Quran and Sahi Hadith...

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wait! so you mean no matter how many talaaqs have been given in just one sitting will be considered as one tallaq and the husband and wife can get into the relation together again???

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Yes! It's no joke and Islam is also not any joke! That's how it is explained in Quran and Sahi Ahadith. One hadith is of Abu Rukana (Sahabi) in Sahi Bukhari. Hazrat Umar changed it to 3 will be 3 for that time only and it has a whole history behind it that's why he took such a decision... and it was for that time not till Qiyama... these local clown molvis don't know it... so if any1 says it 3 times or 300 times in one sitting then just get back together and save your families... dont go for sexual games of these dirty molvis who promote halala...

FOR DETAILS PLS LISTEN TO TEEN TALAQ AUR HALALA KI CHURI BY SYED TAUSEER UR REHMAN

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Well you have been telling people to wakeup.. I guess its finally your time to WAKE UP!! and WAKE UP before its too late!

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It's time for every man and woman to wake up! To understand that halala is haraam so that no lady will ever have to go thru the most disgusting dirty thing like halala if her husband gives her 3 talaqs at once! She should know that Islam can never disgrace the dignity of woman like this! And every man should know this that it was his fault how can Islam punish his wife for this??? I lived from birth till high school in Saudi Arabia and learned a lot from there... and professionally i'm an engineer but these misconceptions about religion have encouraged me to further educate myself in Islam... currently im a student of MA Islamic Studies... Halala is one of the biggest evils going on here... legalized zina... there are even halala centers in khi and lhr!!!!!!

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^Just to prove a halal thing Haram (halala), please do not prove a haram thing halal (divorcing three times)!

Divorce is definitely not a joke and therefore it has been said to control your anger.
I will get back to you with some facts and figures about that.
Meanwhile I will pray to Allah that He directs you the right path and helps you in completing your MA Islamic Studies with the proper and Authenticated knowledge!!

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What??? ok then go hav one night fun of halala with someone! Astaghfirula! Just as i said these are sick ppl who blindly follow these newly born molvis of subcontinent! Alhamdulila my knowledge is authentic as i got it from the heart of Islam, Makkah & Madina about which Prophet said that religious knowledge will retreat to Madeenah at the end of times… May Allah guide you and all others… I can also discuss so many other strange things that go against Quran & Ahadith from the ajooba fiqh books of subcontinent like hidaya, rud al mukhtar, aalimgiri… but lets just leave that for some time later… i dont need local facts and figures as i have fatawa of Imams of Haramain including Dr Ali Jabir (Rahimahula), Sudais, Shuraim, Huzaify…

Islam Question and Answer - Meaning of the hadeeth,
Islam Question and Answer - Reconciling between the hadeeths which forbid tahleel and the hadeeth about the wife of Rifaa
Islam Question and Answer - Threefold divorce counts as one according to the correct scholarly opinion
Are Triple Divorce Acceptable ? | Sheikh Assim Al-Hakeem

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First of all, alhamdulillah I am not in a state to go through Halala.
Second, I neither spoke about the Local facts and figures, by facts and figures, I meant from Quranic Verses and Hadith.
Divorce is NOT A JOKE that when you are angry, you give it thousand times and say, Oh, I was angry… No one gives divorce in a Happy mood!! Ghussay main hi dii jaati hay…

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Yes gussay main hi di jati hai but there are only 2 chances and if done 3rd time then finished... but issue is if in one sitting it's said 3 times or 3000 times it is counted as one! As per Quran & Sahih Ahadith. In fact Talaq word means "To Weaken" so it cannot be finished just at once. That's how it was till Hazrat Umar changed it and there's a long history of why he did so? I can't go into that detail as it's too long. And Hazrat Umar "imposed" this ruling which clearly shows that it was not like this in Prophet's time and Hazrat Abu Bakar's time... That was Hazrat Umar's decision for that time and not till Qiyama... So we need to follow Allah and His Rasool... That's why three is considered as one in Saudi Arabia and many parts of the world... the ahle hadith are also promoting it here in Pakistan so that disgusting practice of halala is stopped and families can be saved... and as i said if some1 still considers 3 as 3 then never ever even think of halala as it was also Hazrat Umar who said that if anyone brought case of halala he would have him stoned! So then follow Hazrat Umar completely... now do you see the evil wickedness of these newly born firqas of subcontinent?

Three divorces uttered at the same time is only to be counted as one according to the soundest view of scholars. It was authentically reported in Sahih Muslim on the authority of Ibn Abbas (may Allah be pleased with them) that the (pronouncement) of three divorces during the lifetime of Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) and that of Abu Bakr and for two years of the caliphate ofUmar (may Allah be pleased with them) was deemed as one time of divorce. Then, Umar (may Allah be pleased with him) said, "People hasten in a matter in which they are required to observe respite. So, it is recommended to impose it upon them," and he imposed it upon them. It is evident that the divorce in this way is counted as a threefold divorce according to Ijtihad (juristic effort to infer expert legal rulings) made byUmar (may Allah be pleased with him). Yet, it is better to follow the authentic Sunnah than following Ijtihad made by Umar or others for the benefit of the Muslims. This is supported by the report narrated by Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal in his Musnad through an authentic Sanad (chain of narrators) from IbnAbbas that Abu Rukanah made three pronouncements of divorce and later regretted. So, he went to the Prophet (peace be upon him) who returned her wife to him, and said: It is one divorce.

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Peace nakheb,

Some scholars says that no matter how many time u have given divorce it will counted as one only, which means the husband and wife can get back at any time. Many other scholars refuted this and said when three divorce given (either at once or time by time) then marriage is null and voided.

Rather then listening (quoting) references of scholars other then from hadith/Quran, we shall investigate/search what and how Almighty Allah described in Chapter 4 as well as in hadith. For further interpretation we can seek references from different school of thoughts.

Before coming to any conclusion, plz share in 100% accuracy b'coz many of us may be take it is as absolute truth what u wrote here and at the end u will be held responsible for that.

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Salaam to all,

Whatever i've said or quoted here is as per Quran and Sahih Ahadith. And you can listen to the lectures I mentioned earlier for details. You said that some scholars say that it's only one whether u say it so many times... and then you said many other scholars refuted this... Well it's the other way around... those "many" you are talking about are again newly born made in subcontinent deviant sects who are unable to understand Quran and Ahadith as were understood by the Salaf us Saliheen. Halala is also Haraam in Saudi Arabia and 3 talaqs in one sitting are considered as only 1... as you said if we search in chapter 4 (Sura Nisa)... also in Sura Baqara and Sura Talaq and in Sahih Ahadith then it will be very clear... i am not promoting any firqa or group here but the ppl in pak who are the nearest to Quran and Sahih Ahadith are ahle hadith, same are the people of saudi arabia... that's why when sh sudais came here he held a conference in jamiat ahle hadith convention and when sheikh saud ashuraim went to india he also atttended the peace conference with dr zakir and delivered lectures in ahle hadith convention... so pls if any1 out there has given 3 talaqs at once do go to ulema of ahle hadith or ulema of arab both will tell u the same thing... and save ur families without getting into yuck grose dirty non sense of halala where one's wife has to stay overnight for sex with some1 else to again become pure in the morning for her first husband! What is she? Haan, that she becomes pure like this??? This is the act of zina that molvis have legalized...

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:wsalam: & Peace nakheb,

That the whole point as u wrote above that one must confirm before taking any action. I don’t meant that what shaikh, scholar, or aalim said is incorrect but I mean we shall further investigate the matter at our end then we make any decision.

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1) how can you give talaq 3 times in a row?
2) after the first talaq you have to re-marry to give the 2nd talaq
3) technically saying talaq 3 times only counts as 1 talaq

hope it makes sense :D

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Peace All

It is possible to give three talaqs in a row and they are counted as three ... The correct adab is not to issue all three in a row ... When people started to do this then the Caliphate drew up measures to prevent it, by putting in place a punishment for people who issue three divorces together.

Now some people think that 3 divorces together is null resulting in 1 and others think it is valid, but a heinous crime worthy of punishment, where it does not absolve the act and that divorce would be irreconcilable.

I follow the opinion of the latter. The reason being for the people who argue that giving 3 talaqs in one sitting amounts to 1 talaq then there is required neither adab in this matter nor any reason for a punishment to be given ... Also, historically those who were punished were not given the opportunity to get back with their wives ... The punishment was given because what they had done was hastily taking their situation to a place where it could no longer be rectified. The drawn out correct method gives the couple a chance to get back by placing a time healer in place ... Saying 3 divorces in one sitting does away with the time healing, worthy of punishment, but if it is void and null then the punishment itself would be an injustice, because it would be impossible to breach the procedure. Punishment would also not be valid if a second was done unless the woman was charged for being an adulteress, for having two husbands concurrently, which has never manifested and the man would not be worried about since he can get married to more women without Shari'ah being breached.

Also, the latter view is that the first divorce and second divorce does not require a redrafting of nikkah Nama. Whereas the former viewpoint is that each time a divorce is made a new nikkah is required, before the couple get together. This concept is also odd since the procedure described in the Qur'an does not say that a new nikkah is required for reconciliation.

To summarise the latter viewpoint is far more stricter, but also fair ... Not only does each time talaq word is uttered count, but also the only time a redrafting can be done is to have been divorced from another husband. The intent to marry for divorce is void and makes the people involved equivalent to fornicators and returning to the husband thereafter as breach of the divorce requirement too, resulting in a double fornication sin.

The harsher opinion prevents the issue turning into a joke ... For sure.

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3 tallaqs, in one row or at different occasions, are counted as three and there will be no option left to re-unite as a husband and wife!