gay people say that that is the way they are born
so if homosexuality is genetic then does it not mean that it is accepted by god.
It's understood that God hasn't made anyone gay. Look into this matter - religious research, I mean.
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^ or even a scientific research from an atheist prespective
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Man, there are so many threads on this topic already. We all have said what we think about it - don’t know why they’re started so frequently. 
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^ it is trendy now a days. if rewind back 10 years not much would be visible but since everybody is alright with it, it is loomin up.
if it is understood then how come some people are born gay.
didn't god create all of us
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^ nobody is born gay. your sexuality is not entirely upto your genetics
tell that to the guys who said they were never interested in girls from the start.
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^ shrugs more interested on the scientific and religious side of debate here.
If all the gay haters are done calling each other cool and awesome, could they please provide an answer to my previous post, which was conveniently ignored?
It is seen in animals too. There was an exhibition in 2006.
Sayain maybe you should read more about the gay bashing prevalent in the society, what is your opinion about that. As for the last part, I didnt say let others live with an opinion of 'hate'. Hate should be condemned if its unjust hate. Hate leads to utter chaos. Trust me, if the gay bashers eradicate gays, they'll need a new target to take on the next day, and honestly I think Muslims are next, atleast for the Bible Thumpers, who blame Homosexuals and Muslims for all their problems. I can show you some literature I have collected on that.
cool observation about muslims are next target. and here i was thinking that they were already the target with iraq and afghanistan wars going, USA bombing pak almost everyday and other stuff. you proved my point right when i said that until the problem enters our circle of life, it simply is not our problem. and no i don't need any literature to know such things.
All i have to say is that if u guys hate gays just becoz they are gay, then Maybe Americans are RIGHT to hate Muslims just becoz they are muslims. sarcasm
Americans are right. period. at least my disliking of gays is far better than them Americans, attacking countries, waging illegal wars and killing innocent civilians. as for your sarcasm...you can give it to your gay friends...i'm sure they'll find better use of it than you.
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Its funny that there is a lot of man love in muslim socities, I am in UAE right now and I see guys holding hands and like realy walking like they are a couple and sitting on top of eachother by the water..I know a lot of these mazdoor types dont' see women for years on end.... the outlook of what homosexuality is is so different here...than what it is in the west! Here it really does seem like a choice like in prison.
cool observation about muslims are next target. and here i was thinking that they were already the target with iraq and afghanistan wars going, USA bombing pak almost everyday and other stuff. you proved my point right when i said that until the problem enters our circle of life, it simply is not our problem. and no i don't need any literature to know such things.
I dont think you understood. I am not talking about Muslims in Iraq, Afghanistan or Pakistan. I am talking about Muslims like you (and me), who moved to the US. If you do a little homework, you will realize that most of the power base and a great chunk of the influential conservatives is supportive to the Churches and denominations whose focal points interests lies in the abomination and abhorring of Homosexuals and 'Moslems'. If you cheer concentration camps for the homosexuals, like they had them for the Nips, then beware, you or I will be next. Maybe you don't know, it took me a great deal of time here to see that and sometimes I had to get to know some people in the most conservative counties to do so. It is only after you realize the gravity of the problem that you will retort as to instead of focusing your energies on hating or bashing helpless Gays, who are in the same boat as you and are no threat whatsoever, to try and counter the real threat through organized and through non-subversive means. Remember, when the gays and lesbians are out of the picture, the "moslems" here provide the next punching bag.
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Allah has never asked anyone to hate another person or a specific community and we have a lot of stories of Prophet Mohammad (P.B.U.H) where he was hated, (pur Unhon nay kabhi inth ka jawab inth say nahin diya, instead he eliminated their hatred by being nice to them. My religion teaches me peace, patience and love.
p.s: and again saieen my sarcasm went above ur head. Ur just stretching it for no reason.
I REST MY CASE.
^love are you totally off your case? The very same prophet pbuh has said somethings about homosexuality, and none of them matches your perspective. Although as you said it is a matter of belief, each to his own.
Sayain maybe you should read more about the gay bashing prevalent in the society, what is your opinion about that. As for the last part, I didnt say let others live with an opinion of 'hate'. Hate should be condemned if its unjust hate. Hate leads to utter chaos. Trust me, if the gay bashers eradicate gays, they'll need a new target to take on the next day, and honestly I think Muslims are next, atleast for the Bible Thumpers, who blame Homosexuals and Muslims for all their problems. I can show you some literature I have collected on that.
hmm is this the post you wanted reply to ? i donot recall anyone in thread saying see a gay, shoot him, kill them. it was a question of accepting them socially or no. as for this will lead to muslim mania, i will tell you what i am more concerned about Allah covering our hide for us rather than peace loving folks of gay loveing countries. And i am certain my hopes are pinned on the best source.cheers
so? why are we taking lessons from animals? i am sure there is incest in animals too? then what? look up my previous posts on the subjest or just gay gene scientifically proven on google. animals kill and maim each other as well. nature can be cruel and generous, gruesome and lovely
fiqar e her kast baqadar e himat.
im ok with them as long as they dont tell me about their relationships...but i was surely surprised to see how many gay men we have in pakistan.