hmm is this the post you wanted reply to ? i donot recall anyone in thread saying see a gay, shoot him, kill them. it was a question of accepting them socially or no. as for this will lead to muslim mania, i will tell you what i am more concerned about Allah covering our hide for us rather than peace loving folks of gay loveing countries. And i am certain my hopes are pinned on the best source.cheers
Firstly, go read another of my posts before this. How do you exactly find out whose gay or not? I mean is it written on their foreheads? Treat them like you treat any other member of the society. When you treat them like crap, don't complain if someone treats you like crap just because you are wearing a hijab or something of that sort. I am not asking you to go hug a gay person every time you see one, I hope you understand.
so? why are we taking lessons from animals? i am sure there is incest in animals too? then what? look up my previous posts on the subjest or just gay gene scientifically proven on google. animals kill and maim each other as well. nature can be cruel and generous, gruesome and lovely
fiqar e her kast baqadar e himat.
Animals lack the thinking ability. It is this thinking ability and intelligence which is what Bilble thumpers and other gay bashers/haters associate as a 'choice', rather than something innate. It is absurd in this day and age to deny such obvious things if they dont fall in line with what you grew up believing. I've given you considerable proof, now its time for you to give me something to prove its not natural.
accepting something means you are alright with it. if i find the lifestyle repuslively contrary to my beliefs why should i accept it? there is a difference between contrary and different. gay is not different to me it is something that i believe is immoral, as immoral as rape. would i befriend someone who was a vocal rapist? no. can i absolutely guarantee that anyone i befriend doesnt have any skeletons in the closet ? no i cant. as for what you said sara hate the sin not the sinner ,there is another one a man in known by the company he keeps. distancing yourself from some one is not blind hatred it is a matter of principles.
let me quote myself i think that should answer your question. unless some one is flaunting their gayness you cant know. i am not saying hear the gossip and go crazy. but if you accept it as ok you let it in society and i donot want to be a part of that. We all have to answer for our deeds to Allah, somehow i heart gay isnt going to make it easy for me.* i heart gays*. seriously that is skewed and twisted. i heart sanity and morals. and most of the people on this forum will go in grievance if their father or brother went in the circle but hey its cool to spew openmindedness for others.
Animals lack the thinking ability. It is this thinking ability and intelligence which is what Bilble thumpers and other gay bashers/haters associate as a 'choice', rather than something innate. It is absurd in this day and age to deny such obvious things if they dont fall in line with what you grew up believing. I've given you considerable proof, now its time for you to give me something to prove its not natural.
spock mate are you muslim? for that is the biggest auhtority for us. if nu r not i will go down trhe scientific route.your take.
i said sexuality isnt entirely upto to genetics? yes. my bone of contention with you is that jsut because something can be partially attributed to nature (even that not very specifically) is not reason for it to gain legitimacy. now i have posted this article three time in different threads on the matter. so i am going to give u the link ,read up on it. be objective and tell me what you think. Is There a “Gay Gene”?
spock mate are you muslim? for that is the biggest
auhtority for us. if nu r not i will go down trhe scientific route.your take.
haha, lo jee questioning peoples faith. Whether I am Muslim or not is my 'own' damn business, and no one else's. Anyone apart from Allah no one should question my faith and I would just tell them to shove that question where it came from, excuse the crudeness. Even some fundo christians got the same answer from me.
Yeah, dont take any scientific routes, deny the existence of dinasaurs too, or the hundreds of beautiful things science came up with. Remember, when you are trying to present an argument, think in general, not everyone you are adressing to is a believer of the Bible or any other holy book that you personally believe in. I mean how do you argue with athiests? I hope you do a better job than the Bible Thumpers.
haha brilliant, you do realize that article comes from the people who think there’s something wrong with gays and do business by offering ‘treatment’ to them? I mean its not like I posted something from Elton Johns diary before did I?
let me quote myself i think that should answer your question. unless some one is flaunting their gayness you cant know. i am not saying hear the gossip and go crazy. but if you accept it as ok you let it in society and i donot want to be a part of that. We all have to answer for our deeds to Allah, somehow i heart gay isnt going to make it easy for me.* i heart gays*. seriously that is skewed and twisted. i heart sanity and morals. and most of the people on this forum will go in grievance if their father or brother went in the circle but hey its cool to spew openmindedness for others.
So where did I tell you to heart them? I said treat them like any other person in the society. I also seriously doubt they are begging for you to heart them, but when you treat them like crap and go the extra distance to treat the straight guy nicely, thats where you do fall short bro.
haha, lo jee questioning peoples faith. Whether I am Muslim or not is my 'own' damn business, and no one else's. Anyone apart from Allah no one should question my faith and I would just tell them to shove that question where it came from, excuse the crudeness. Even some fundo christians got the same answer from me.
Yeah, dont take any scientific routes, deny the existence of dinasaurs too, or the hundreds of beautiful things science came up with. Remember, when you are trying to present an argument, think in general, not everyone you are adressing to is a believer of the Bible or any other holy book that you personally believe in. I mean how do you argue with athiests? I hope you do a better job than the Bible Thumpers.
you do get points for beign exceptionally smart. the question wasnt about your faith, contrary to your idiotic belief i donot follow you around to know where you were born with what colour pola dots and religion. it was asked because if you are not i will not refer to any religious context since you will not be interested in it.
so far all you have posted is gay animal conference and i am falling short of scientific material?
So where did I tell you to heart them? I said treat them like any other person in the society. I also seriously doubt they are begging for you to heart them, but when you treat them like crap and go the extra distance to treat the straight guy nicely, thats where you do fall short bro.
do you know how i treat them? does the universe fall over if do not befirenda flaming homosexual? try to stay relevant, i am talking about a social context here. if it doesnt matter how i treat them why are we even having a conversation here? juvenile
haha brilliant, you do realize that article comes from the people who think there's something wrong with gays and do business by offering 'treatment' to them? I mean its not like I posted something from Elton Johns diary before did I?
haha i doubt i am going to get relevant information from queer club. bring in the evidence for you to make the claim that there is not debate about the issue. not some bbc recycled material. scientifically it is a disputed hypothesis. or quit wasting my time. silly sheesh
you do get points for beign exceptionally smart. the question wasnt about your faith,** contrary to your idiotic belief** i donot follow you around to know where you were born with what colour pola dots and religion. it was asked because if you are not i will not refer to any religious context since you will not be interested in it.
I think I answered myself pretty well when I said no one has the right to ask me what religion I have, if they cant seem to provide a rebuttal to my arguments? I honestly would not get influenced at all even if you were an atheist who did not believe in giving gays the same rights as straight men. That part is encapsulated from my judgments on your well thought off ideas. Calling my beliefs idiotic etc, that's not good, lets not resort to that bigotry please.
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It wasn't a gay animal conference. It was an exhibition where it was put to display thousands of animals exhibiting homosexual behavior. I posted it because people were suggesting its a persons choice, not something innate.
do you know how i treat them? does the universe fall over if do not befirenda flaming homosexual? try to stay relevant, i am talking about a social context here. if it doesnt matter how i treat them why are we even having a conversation here? juvenile
Again, did I ask you to 'befriend' them? Yes, social context, atleast what I am referring to means treating everyone, kala chitta homo hetero, all the same. Do not let prejudices get the best out of you. I am still not convinced when some people, who run out of arguments when asked why they bash gays, telling tales about gay people hitting on them.
haha i doubt i am going to get relevant information from queer club. bring in the evidence for you to make the claim that there is not debate about the issue. not some bbc recycled material. scientifically it is a disputed hypothesis. or quit wasting my time. silly sheesh
The evidence it out there, from independent scientists, whether you choose to believe it, that's a different story. Also, did you know that carbon dating dates dinosaur bones to eons before any known human civilization. Give me one good reason why they would want to make such things up.
I think I answered myself pretty well when I said no one has the right to ask me what religion I have, if they cant seem to provide a rebuttal to my arguments? I honestly would not get influenced at all even if you were an atheist who did not believe in giving gays the same rights as straight men. That part is encapsulated from my judgments on your well thought off ideas. Calling my beliefs idiotic etc, that's not good, lets not resort to that bigotry please.
It wasn't a gay animal conference. It was an exhibition where it was put to display thousands of animals exhibiting homosexual behavior. I posted it because people were suggesting its a persons choice, not something innate.
your idiotic belief as in that you assume that i know all there is to know about your belief system. read my posts again you are surely missing the point. now be specific you want islamic reasoning or scientific?
Again, did I ask you to 'befriend' them? Yes, social context, atleast what I am referring to means treating everyone, kala chitta homo hetero, all the same. Do not let prejudices get the best out of you. I am still not convinced when some people, who run out of arguments whe*n asked why they bash gays, telling tales about gay people hitting on them*.
quote me where i have suggested any of the behaviours as arguments.
This is where I stop discussing things, to avoid a personal mudslinging pissing contest. I made my point here without calling you or any of your beliefs idiotic. Like I said, my personal faith is no ones business, as is yours.