Re: Gang rape victim gets Glamour award
^^ You talk crap.
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LOOK at what example u are using!!! a victim is like a son…and the rapist is like her father???wtf? please come up with a better analogy…
no one should be encouraged to give awards to her? ? ? im sorry that doesnt quite fit as bribery to me…
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Father is 'country' Victim is 'citizen' my emotional friend. I already know you did not and cannot get the example right. Why keep confirming that???
Let me be clear of my opinion. This moman is playing in the hands of outsiders for her revange against the some evil people. Pakistan is not her enemy but she is willing to sell her Pakistani identity for her anger or sorrow. Pakistan did nurture her so she did grow up to be a woman directly or indirectly. Why should ALL pakistani pay the price for her loss?
There are many women and men of any country who lose even their lives for country's honor. She must refuse any award and all of us including herself struggle for the change within our system. She must fight and we must support her...not the outsiders! Now please unclog your mind.
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She has done more for Pakistan than you, and maybe I ever will.
People love to bring others down 
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how much have you donated/ lobbied for her cause?
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Donation is a personal act and lobbying does not need to be at the expense of putting pakistan down.
Where did you get the idea that I mentione d her ‘cause’ is wrong?
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What kind of service is to the country when someone talks bad about the country to outside media or willing to go outside country for their cause?
People have problem understanding whats a service to country and what’s not!
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That is not how it works. You are right in that none give a damn about her. However, when anti-Pakistan lobbyists wish to agitate against Pakistan, they will use this issue.
This is hardly far fetched. And you have simply ignored the question: what is it these people can do for Pakistan in general? 20k is worth the negative portrayal which can possibly be used against Pakistan proper?
Some, not all. The bottom line is, social change needs to be affected in Pakistan..not abroad…the question remains; how can this visit benefit Pakistan or the cause of gang rape victims there?
What are you talking about? The US and UK had waged war against a nation under the rubric of eliminating a dicator…one they in fact supported while he was most brutal…and you think using this tragedy is beneath them IF they see fit? You missed a key part of the equation…IF it’s politically convenient, this incident WILL be used. Period. Again, it’s not that she went to foreign territory…but the particular territory chosen. These NGO’s simply don’t think…
No, she made that decision after winning the award. She has already collected money in Pakistan as well, so the idea that this is the ONLY source of funds for her projects is simply untrue.
That she went to US because of a lack of support in Pakistan is a false-logic. You assume the lack of support in Pakistan because she went to the US. Nonsense. The NGOs dragged her to the US. For good reason…that’s where the major funding is.
I shouldn’t have to point out that NGOs skim 10-15% off the top…or did you not know that? But hey, it’s all good so long as MM is getting some attention, right?
“are there not enough people in pakistan that are loaded and also sympathize with MMai?”
Again, a false logic. Her going to the US means simply she was advised to go there. Needless to say, just how much attention IS she getting in the western media compared to the Pakistani media? This mentality that Pakistanis are united against here is getting tired…it’s condescending and simply untrue.
Post 9-11, General Zinni visited ol Mushy and pretty much told him that Pakistan would be a smoldering crater if it didn’t go out to ‘destroy’ terror…this may not phase you (Pakistan being a land of Gang rapists apparently)…but to me it puts things in perspective.
I repeat: it’s not that she went to foreigners…it’s the particular ones that were selected.
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And cannibal theory is just hilariously and overtly exaggerated.
Pakistan is not as bad as some try to show.
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Dude, in this story cannibal is not Pakistan...
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I invite you to look at the big picture. Perahps you are bold enough to elaborate on how exactly her globe trotting will serve the cause of Pakistan women…by being the cause de jour in fashion mags? Please…
Not gonna let that one slide…please elaborate. What effects?
…what does this have to do with anything?
Well, in her case it was the village Mullah. And not an American in sight…gosh golly jee…could this be? Could it be that Pakistanis have it in themselves to seek justice without running to outsiders?
And glamour mag became a part of the social fabric…when?
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You just simply love to blame Mullah for everything, don’t you? oh, you have headache? it must be the mullah’s bad worse causing it, you bandwagoner.
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Evil work needs to be eliminated at all front no doubt. But promoting the evil by sensationalizing the event is the worse kind of job NGO's do.
This idea of 'exposing' the bad deed is simply an illusion that it will somehow majically eliminate bad deeds.
We see more sexual predators around the societies who love to 'educate' people about sex. Its like spreading the dust all over the carpet and say..."keep the carpet clean"!
Worst,........... the promoter of sex and sex symbol Brookshiled is awarding Mai! What a joke!
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Nonsense. First of all, nothing about what happened to her and others was ‘senstionalized’. That is just retarded talk
Secondly only by the brave NGO’s, and others, forcing this issue into the spotlight has there been pressure on the govt to do something about it.
Before this pressure, nothing happened, and nobody cared apart from some NGO’s who selflessly helped while the govt ministers/general lived their luxury life, as usual
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In this case I “blame” the Mullah for blowing the whistle on the gang rape (it wasn’t an NGO or the media, western or otherwise). That’s hardly anything to be ashamed of…I suggest you READ the entire conversation before jumping in. My comments were not anti-Mullah…
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Well, before her it was Bill Clinton (who couldn’t make it because of Rosa Parks death I guess…)…
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This is nonsense. First, it was the village Mullah who brought this case to light. Second, when the lower court was ready to dismiss the charges against the Rapists, it was the Shariat court that stepped in and kept the case going. You may not want to admit it, but this case is being followed through because of Pakistani pressure…much of it conservative…NGOs are just voices in the distance…
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editing my post....
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- Bringing a pessimistic societal misgiving to light will discourage the occurrence of issues like this.
Being featured in fashion magazine is a subset of this endeavor. Again, open your eyes to reality and give the well-meaning individuals and their efforts the recognition they deserve.
2)…cross-reference and question authority, so balance of power is maintained.
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It is human to seek justice! The Nationality bias was created by you…
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No one mentioned Glamour mag was part of Pakistan’s social fabric!
However, as civil rights advocates, the American media usually brings forth people who may have otherwise been lost in their mundane world, albeit with superhuman achievements.
- You are clouding your opinion by deeming the efforts put forth by the NGO as ‘political only’.
A female perspective will shed more light…ask your mother how she feels about this issue.
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Mukhtaran Mai Zindabad for exposing barabric rural punjab customs to the world. This is the only way the pakistani establishment and feudal lords will even think about providing justice if they are made to feel ashamed in front of the world. They only feel ashamed when goras find out their evils, they have no shame over the actual public gang rape.