i like doing more but thats when i have time. Like on weekend nites, when i dont have office in morning. otherwise i know i hardly make it to five, some on time, some qaza.
PS: More means Tahajudd, Namaz e Ishraq etc.
Nice post Afshi :k: you are right, we need to try for Jannah.
what a tragedy for those who turn down gals n boys who try to be practising muslims 
and you think this guy's namaz would be accepted? Prayer really keeps u from all bad habits, sins, haraam ONLY AND ONLY when you say it with heart. When you are God fearing. this guy is obviously not God fearing coz if he was then he wont do haraam things such as u mentioned. if he doesnt have God's fear, then i dont understand why he was even bothered to say namaz. Like i dont understand the purpose of saying it.
No, I don't know if his namaz will be accpeted(God knows!) neither do I think he is a good human being or is God fearing. I wasn't talking about him in the second paragraph. I just simply said my requirement in a partner is that my husband should fear Allah and at least respect those who commit to Islamic ways of life.
tragedy indeed, FairyTale.
All I meant CA is that** if person is in bad habits, you can talk about what quran or hadees says about that bad habit and he may listen cause after all he has some religious influence.** You gave one example and I agree that there are exceptions, such as the example you gave.
I won't argue with you but according to my experience, there are A LOT of Muslims in this world who pray 5 times but wouldn't care to follow the corret way of Islam even if we try to give them examples from quran/hadees. Different muslims have different priorities I guess. Some will just give excuse that all will be forgiven once they do sajdah and ask for forgiveness from Allah.
Let me add my two cents in the form of another question.
I agree with all of you that being namazi may not make me a better husband so in a way that should not be the requirement of my wife. But lets say that definition of a better hubby for my wife is the one who goes out to parties with her or spend lots of money on her. Still, because she loves me, she knows that these things will not save me from hell fire. My namaz will. At that time, is it ok for her to put her criteria of a 'better husband' behind and encourage me to do 5 times prayer.
I mean, if she loves me really, she should be more worried about my better akhirat than worldly pleasures.
Too religious for some of you???
Its ur niyat thats more important more than the action...
If the niyat aint even there to please Allah, then the wife or hubby making their spouse pray dont mean a thing
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When you are praying, you are praying for allah. You do neeyat before you start praying. That is enough. It does not matter who encouraged you to pray.
Aapko misunderstanding hogayi hai shayad...being a namazi doesn't neccesarily mean a person will abstain from such acts...I personally know someone who would stand up to do namaz when he was fully drunk(he was a regular drinker) and had molested children(worse than adultery, isn't it?). Namaz is a important part of our religion but we need to understand that it mostly fulfills huqooq-Allah and not huqooq-ul-ibad especially when the person doesn't understand the true meaning of his/her religion.
I would love my partner to be a 5 waqt namazi but I couldn't make this a requirement since I myself don't pray regularly. However, when I wasn't married I didn't think I could settle with someone who isn't spiritually religious and God fearing...that was my requirement and I also wouldn't consider a guy who did not respect people who do pray 5 times a day/do hijab. It's very important for me. I have come across people who don't respect those who commit to Islam and make fun of them or wouldn't associate with them....I simply can't stand a partner like that!
CA i am so there with u
I was the same prior to meeting my husband.. wanted a 5 time namazi.. someone God fearing.. just because thats how i was... but ive realsied there is more to Islam than just namaz... SO MUCH MORE... just because i pray and the husband doesnt, dont make me any better than him.. and it doesnt make him worst than me..
For those of u who have said that when we get judged, Allah wont look at all our other good deeds, if we havent prayed.... then how do explain the hadees about the old lady who never prayed but looked after one cat her entire life...? why did her good deed count?
u think that just cus a person prays but doesnt look after his parents or his family, isnt a good husband.... he is going to be exempted from any kind of judgement just cus he prays?
When you are praying, you are praying for allah. You do neeyat before you start praying. That is enough. It does not matter who encouraged you to pray.
maybe u do
but there are so many people out there who pray because they just HAVE to... they dont understand the reasoning behind it... its just something they HAVE to do... like some girls HAVE to wear the hijab as its their culture or family tradition....
things arent black and white... there are greys and brows and purples everywhere... u simply cannot say its either this or that
but there are so many people out there who pray because they just HAVE to... they dont understand the reasoning behind it...
and that is ok Sadzzz. its better than not praying at all.
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i dunno TLK.... for me its the niyat... if it aint there, i dont buy it. But im not God.... so if He accepts it, who am i to judge?
I dont want somenoe to fear me to pray.. or do it just to please me. I need them to understand why they are doing it... and for what reason. But to each their own
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I wouldnt stipulate such conditions.
As long as the sposuse to be was Muslim prayed that would be good enough.
We go through phases. Something we pray religiously 5x aday.
Something dont pray for 3 months!
It all falls into place eventually.
Things you need to look out for a drinking alcohol & drug taking!!!
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the hadith about the old lady at the cat...
actually the old lady DID PRAY all her FARD salahs but not the nawfil ones, and took very good care of her cat. - she will be in Jannah, inshallah
the other old lady prayed both her Fard, Sunnah, and Nawfil Salah, but did not treat the cat well - Allah SWT knows best for her
Yes, character and behaviour is very important in Islam, but remember, Salah is the Pillar of Religion; it will be one of the first questions asked to you on the Day of Judgement. One needs to find the balance of both.
We all need to look at the character and actions of our beloved Prophet SAW. Because of his character, people converted to Islam. But at the same time, he fulfilled all the requirements Allah SWT put on us muslims. He spent more of his nights in prayer than in sleep..subhanallah.
just how couples want to spend time together doing things together, why not make reading salah together one of them? its a beautiful thing. Pretty soon it wont become a burden or a chore (astagfirullah) but second nature. Your lives will be about fitting your day around Salah times...not about trying to find salah time in your lives...inshallah.
I think this issue ties very closely into a person's belief and understanding of the hereafter. If they dont believe that they will die and be brought back and called to account for everything they did, then its easy to brush a matter like prayer under the rug and say its not very important. If they do believe in consequences of actions and that Paradise will not merely be gived on a silver platter to everyone who just runs around saying "Jesus loves me", then they will see that what we do in this life does have value and significance and that it matters, it matters alot
Everyone who said they know people who pray and yet were horrible people and others who dont pray and are good people --this doesnt show that there is something wrong with the salah itself, it shows there is something wrong with that particular person and their prayer. If we are truly praying, sincerely from our heart, we are coming to stand before God 5 times a day, seeking to make a connection with Him with our hearts, asking for His Guidance and Forgiveness. It gives you a sense of consciousness that God is always with you, always seeing what you do. It should help uplift you, in all your relations, to be a better person, to do the best you can. If you are able to pray and still abuse the rights of others, then you are obviously not fulfilling the Right of Allah in the correct way
Im not saying that everyone who prays is a saint and can never do any wrong. Im not saying that whoever doesnt pray has absolutely no good qualities in them and is an automatic monster. All Im saying, are we really so willing to settle for such a mediocre person to spend our life with? How come when it comes to worldly things, its so easy for us to set such high standards of what we expect in a spouse, whether its in terms of intellect, beauty, riches, status, lineage etc. We are not willing to settle for anything less than the best, whatever we see as being the best. Yet when it comes to the religion, we make our standards so low and what is praying 5 times a day, its a big deal to suddenly even pray 5 times a year
Yes people pray for different reasons, but thats why its God Who judges their intentions and actions, not us. That doesnt mean that we shouldnt encourage others to pray or think that encouraging them to pray means they are only praying to please us. And again, there is a difference between someone who acknowledges the importance of prayer and yet neglects to pray out of laziness or some other thing, and someone else who thinks that prayer isnt even important, or it isnt obligatory
Living in this world, its easy to get so caught up with our lives, we dont like to think about the next world, we dont like to think about the grave and hellfire. But these matters are all a reality. We are all going to die one day, whether we pray or not. Allah describes the Day of Judgement in the Quran as a day when we will wish to ransom our own mothers and fathers and husbands and wives and sisters and brothers and sons and daughters, wish to throw our dearest loved ones into the fire in hopes of saving our own necks. Thats the reality we are denying. If we had double the entire weight of the earth in gold we would wish to give it to ransom ourselves from the fire. And yet what is being asked of us in this life is much less than this. Do we deny the reality of meeting Allah one day or do we really care so little for our loved ones in this world that we cannot even be bothered to help them live the best life in this world, so they can have the best life in the next world. If we really love Allah, we would at least try to do what pleases Him. And if we really love our family, we would at least try to ecnourage them to do the same. True love isnt a noun, its a verb and verbs call for action
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^ very nice. I think im going to copy this and post it on my facebook..thanks!
I think this issue ties very closely into a person's belief and understanding of the hereafter. If they dont believe that they will die and be brought back and called to account for everything they did, then its easy to brush a matter like prayer under the rug and say its not very important. If they do believe in consequences of actions and that Paradise will not merely be gived on a silver platter to everyone who just runs around saying "Jesus loves me", then they will see that what we do in this life does have value and significance and that it matters, it matters alot
Everyone who said they know people who pray and yet were horrible people and others who dont pray and are good people --this doesnt show that there is something wrong with the salah itself, it shows there is something wrong with that particular person and their prayer. If we are truly praying, sincerely from our heart, we are coming to stand before God 5 times a day, seeking to make a connection with Him with our hearts, asking for His Guidance and Forgiveness. It gives you a sense of consciousness that God is always with you, always seeing what you do. It should help uplift you, in all your relations, to be a better person, to do the best you can. If you are able to pray and still abuse the rights of others, then you are obviously not fulfilling the Right of Allah in the correct way
Im not saying that everyone who prays is a saint and can never do any wrong. Im not saying that whoever doesnt pray has absolutely no good qualities in them and is an automatic monster. All Im saying, are we really so willing to settle for such a mediocre person to spend our life with? How come when it comes to worldly things, its so easy for us to set such high standards of what we expect in a spouse, whether its in terms of intellect, beauty, riches, status, lineage etc. We are not willing to settle for anything less than the best, whatever we see as being the best. Yet when it comes to the religion, we make our standards so low and what is praying 5 times a day, its a big deal to suddenly even pray 5 times a year
Yes people pray for different reasons, but thats why its God Who judges their intentions and actions, not us. That doesnt mean that we shouldnt encourage others to pray or think that encouraging them to pray means they are only praying to please us. And again, there is a difference between someone who acknowledges the importance of prayer and yet neglects to pray out of laziness or some other thing, and someone else who thinks that prayer isnt even important, or it isnt obligatory
Living in this world, its easy to get so caught up with our lives, we dont like to think about the next world, we dont like to think about the grave and hellfire. But these matters are all a reality. We are all going to die one day, whether we pray or not. Allah describes the Day of Judgement in the Quran as a day when we will wish to ransom our own mothers and fathers and husbands and wives and sisters and brothers and sons and daughters, wish to throw our dearest loved ones into the fire in hopes of saving our own necks. Thats the reality we are denying. If we had double the entire weight of the earth in gold we would wish to give it to ransom ourselves from the fire. And yet what is being asked of us in this life is much less than this. Do we deny the reality of meeting Allah one day or do we really care so little for our loved ones in this world that we cannot even be bothered to help them live the best life in this world, so they can have the best life in the next world. If we really love Allah, we would at least try to do what pleases Him. And if we really love our family, we would at least try to ecnourage them to do the same. True love isnt a noun, its a verb and verbs call for action
Well said. Masha'Allah.
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And again, there is a difference between someone who acknowledges the importance of prayer and yet neglects to pray out of laziness or some other thing, and someone else who thinks that prayer isnt even important, or it isnt obligatory
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You hit the nail on the head. The IMPORTANCE OF PRAYER. I would never even consider someone who though prayer was insignificant or not obligatory and that being a 'good human' is enough to sail through this world. I'm sorry but it's not enough for me, being a good person is just not enough for me, it doesnt cut it. I need deen.
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^ thats right :k:
Thats what i said someone who is serious about religion and not take it as something ordinary daily life thing.
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^ Would it be OK if a person is not disciplined about praying 5 times but is embarrassed about that. There are many people now a days who dont pray but know that they are doing something wrong by not praying. There are others who dont pray beause they think that it is not important. I think first categoary is still better. No?
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^ Thats different. The key thing is that a person is trying because they realise the significance...not every one can become a 5 time namazi in one go...but eventually they get there. Its when you start dismissing it as unimportant, that is where the problem starts.
btw I take care of my cat too, does that mean im saved already? wow.