Ok I know its a taboo to discuss the religious aspects in Life1 (shoot me) rolleyes but how many of you would make it a condition when selecting your future partner that he/she needs to be a 5 times namazi?
I am not talking about a guy with long beard or a girl who wears hijab. I am talking about a quote unquote normal person who along with watching TV and going to movies and listening to songs, also prays. How many of you would say, I am not going to marry a person who does not pray 5 times a day?
I think if he prays 5 times or not, its between him and God. I think I'd be ok with someone who doesn't do it 5 times a day.
Conversely, if he does pray 5 times a day, that's fine too. But I think he'd have a huge problem with the fact that I'm totally lazy and not disciplined about reading 5 times a day myself. I'd really have to change that about me, and I don't like bringing in those changes in my life for my husband - that's something you do for God. Not for a spouse.
There is no such thing as direct connection to God. We are connected to God through people. You ditch people and you are removing God from your life. I am not trying to be philosophical here, but only trying to say that there is nothing wrong in started to pray 5 times just because your spouse is expecting you to.
That's not true. Where in Islamic history do you see the advocation of adopting religion because your husband tells you to?
If he wants a 5x namazi he can go find one. Why marry the girl who is not really into the whole namaaz thing?
Btw, a true 5x namaazi is not common in my generation. Nearly everyone misses prayers here and there for some reason and many don't even pray aside from eid namaaz.
I think it's really hard if you are "namazi" and the other person is not. So if you aren't, you obviously would not have a problem w/ some1 else not being namazi. But if you are, and you marry someone who is not, there can be 3 things that could happen.
1) You feel obligated to suggest your spouse to pray and they get defensive
2) You do your thing and they do theirs and there's nothing said about it (unlikely)
3) You begin to become more lax in your prayers and feel guilty about it.
I think being particular about prayer is just a way to gauge their outlook on Islam and how much it means to them. Also, prayer is one of the 5 pillars and it MUST be done. The other things are also important, but not like the five pillars. It's what separates muslims from other religions.
Religion plays a huge part in any marriage, so why would it be weird to ask about it? I would say yes- it's a requirement (unless they aren't but sincerely want to be).
a person doesnt have to be namazi to prove how much they know about islam or how much it means to them.
Islam isnt just about prayer... if that were the case, id be a real saint.
And i dont think one spouse not being as namazi as the other makes a real difference. Sure, it opens up your eyes to a whole other side of Islam and other things, but it doesnt make THAT much of a difference.
and I am with PCG on the point that u shosuldnt have to pray for ur spouse... It doesnt work
I wouldn't marry a religious guy simple because I was never brought up amongst people who are. My perception is that a namazi guy would one day turn around and ask me to wear hijab. Will I do that? No. I would wear a hijab if I want to not because someone asks me to.
and being namazi doesnt mean ur 'religious'.. i dont even know what that term is anymore
Namaz to some is an islamic obligation... thats what makes them feel like they are a muslim. To others, its a self-satisfaction method... its different for each individual
and being namazi doesnt mean ur 'religious'.. i dont even know what that term is anymore
Namaz to some is an islamic obligation... thats what makes them feel like they are a muslim. To others, its a self-satisfaction method... its different for each individual
You may be right but that's how I think :( The people that i've seen tend to be from one extreme to the other.
offering namaz 5 times a day doesn’t make ya religious, just makes you a practicing muslim :- )
and someone who does pray 5x a day should not be judged as an extremist/radical/crazy arse mullah who will force you to do things against your will:rolleyes:
I wouldn’t make namaz 5x a day a condition, but i’d like to be with one who is trying to do so
I wouldnt have been interested to marry someone who wasnt a Muslim. Nor would have been interested in someone who didnt pray 5 times a day. If they dont even take care of their relationship with God, why would I expect them to take care of their relationship with me!
no offense to anyone, just sharing my personal feelings
[QUOTE]
Nearly everyone misses prayers here and there for some reason
[/QUOTE]
There is an obvious difference between someone who misses a prayer on the rare ocassion due to a particular circumstance and someone who cant even be bothered to make a sincere effort
No, it wouldn't be a condition.. Actually it's funny cos when my dad married my mum he knew practically nothing about her, had only met her sis and stupidly reasoned cos the sister was pretty she prob would be as well (she had been suggested by some mutual friends) and his parents didn't either and only asked 'does she do namaz 5x a day' to which she replied 'yes' and bizarrely that was enough..
I wouldnt have been interested to marry someone who wasnt a Muslim. Nor would have been interested in someone who didnt pray 5 times a day. If they dont even take care of their relationship with God, why would I expect them to take care of their relationship with me!
no offense to anyone, just sharing my personal feelings
i serously dont think that if someone doesnt pray that they wont be capable of being a good husband or a good father
that doesnt prove anything
seriously... that so should not be the basis of someones character and their capability of being good at anything else
just for the record, im a 4 time namazi and my husband doesnt pray all that much... but he's a wonderful father and husband... so i think what ur saying is highly judgemental and baseless
a person doesnt have to be namazi to prove how much they know about islam or how much it means to them.
And i dont think one spouse not being as namazi as the other makes a real difference. Sure, it opens up your eyes to a whole other side of Islam and other things, but it doesnt make THAT much of a difference.
I agree- a namazi person doesn't mean anything about their religiousness. And like you said it does not make anyone a saint. But usually, people who care about praying 5 times a day tend to make islam a bigger part of their lives than people who don't, so like I said it kind of can gauge someone especially if you dont know anything about them.It definitely doesnt say EVERYTHING about them.
It takes an effort to make each prayer on time in the west. First you have to plan for breaks especially if you have a packed schedule like classes back to back or something. Then there's the bathroom conundrum and how to wash your feet in a public area :D. Then there is finding a location where people don't walk in on you and start talking to you while you're mid ruku.
^ maybe use ur car? Islam isnt that hard to follow... u can do masar (sp?) if u cant wash ur feet properly at work..
khair, i still dont think that just because one prays, they are better than someone who doesnt. Yes, they take out time for namaz... but who knows for what reason?
If people took out that much time for family members, took that much time out to make their kids feel safe and happy... enough time to remind their spoouse how much they love them... wouldnt the world be more pleasant? namaz is between u and ur God.... yes it affects ur whole family... but it depends on how exactly ur conveying that message..
