There is no such thing as direct connection to God. We are connected to God through people. You ditch people and you are removing God from your life. I am not trying to be philosophical here, but only trying to say that there is nothing wrong in started to pray 5 times just because your spouse is expecting you to.
True BUT not if what the hubby was wanting of her was against her morals, religion.
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So amaizingly what I realized that to some extent, a non virgin spouse is ok than a namazi spouse.
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So thats what u got out of it?
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^ that never to ask such question ..
... I would rather open a thread on, would you let your to-be-wife invite her ex BF to your wedding?
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why do you expect intelligent answers? give up, i know i did:chai:
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I gave up long time ago to get an intelligent answer from you
Gofor it 
i think one can be a 5x namazi…AND a non-virgin…right?
Its not just the two things alone..many many other factors are involved. i dont think things are as black and white as people make them out to be.
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here i am siding with you and yet you still are mean to me :/ intelligence level: zilch!
btw tlk: whats your opinion about the question asked?
There is no such thing as direct connection to God. We are connected to God through people. You ditch people and you are removing God from your life.
We are connected to God by our halal intentions towards Him. We can pray 5x a day but if our intentions are to please people then it won't matter. You can ditch people, or people can ditch you, but that doesn't remove God out of your life.
Abraham's slave woman Hajar was kicked out of her home and no one to look to. Did God leave her? No.
I wouldn't marry a religious guy simple because I was never brought up amongst people who are. My perception is that a namazi guy would one day turn around and ask me to wear hijab. Will I do that? No. I would wear a hijab if I want to not because someone asks me to.
just because someone prays namaz doesn't make them a maulvi who's going to throw religion down people's throats.. so having that judgment is like racial profiling in a sense, attaching a label to someone just because of one thing.
(and yeah obviously it's totally wrong to force something like that on anyone, let alone your wife)
So amaizingly what I realized that to some extent, a non virgin spouse is ok than a namazi spouse.
hmm.. I think that a girl would tell herself "ohh he does namaz, so he's going to preach to me and make me uncomfortable..." again, the same sort of profiling that isn't accurate or fair.
its pretty sad that a private thing like namaz attaches a stigma to someone or makes them seem extremist or something.. and as you say, a guy who sleeps around or drinks usually escapes that judgment and is tolerated perhaps? something to think about.
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^ not true....
a lot of people who sleep around or drink and stuff get shunned too...
being a namazi, is always a very specieal trait.. if some guy/gal is gonna associate that with being all maulvi like, than that is really sad and shows their maturity level
BUT having said that, i still stand by the fact that being namazi does not mean somenoe is a good person. And being non-namazi doesnt make someone a alcohol drinking/partygoer/sleeparound type of person either.
There is more to people than just these wierd stereotypes
i still stand by the fact that being namazi does not mean somenoe is a good person. And being non-namazi doesnt make someone a alcohol drinking/partygoer/sleeparound type of person either.
There is more to people than just these wierd stereotypes
couldn't have said it better myself. :)
We are connected to God by our halal intentions towards Him. We can pray 5x a day but if our intentions are to please people then it won't matter. You can ditch people, or people can ditch you, but that doesn't remove God out of your life.
Abraham's slave woman Hajar was kicked out of her home and no one to look to. Did God leave her? No.
When I said you are removing God out of you life if you ditch people, I mean if you leave your mom and dad, or stop talking to your kids or divorce your wife for no reason, you are removing the blessing of God from your life.
So amaizingly what I realized that to some extent, a non virgin spouse is ok than a namazi spouse.
ya disturbing. i think as long as the spouse is muslim, no one these days looks beyond that. his/her practicing status is not very high up in the priority list, as compared to other factors like education, comapatibility, family etc
Agreed. I never seen a marriage fail where the husband and wife share the same devotedness to Allah (SWT).
Do you know that even Shahba of Rasool Allah (PBH) also divorced the wives, who else could have devotion more then them?
Muslims are supposed to get married for the sake of Allah (SWT). If people get married for other reasons then they won't receive it's blessings.
Muslims marry each other to seek Allah's mercy and happiness. It's not about Islamic history, it's about an Islamic obligation to help strenghten your spouse's faith. This is required.
I beg to differ here, we do marry in the way Allah prescribe to us, also it is Sunnah. But we are still marrying for our own sake, and has the right to choose the best possible person suits us.
I agree with you on obligation of help strengthen the spouse's faith. But end of the day everyone is answerable to his/her own deeds to Allah.
ya disturbing. i think as long as the spouse is muslim, no one these days looks beyond that. his/her practicing status is not very high up in the priority list, as compared to other factors like education, comapatibility, family etc
I wouldn't say this is necessarily true. While I have seen some like that, I've also seen the opposite, where even if a guy has a very good job/income/status, he would still not be considered if he's seen as not being practicing enough. How much you see of either depends a lot on your company/social circle.
I beg to differ here, we do marry in the way Allah prescribe to us, also it is Sunnah. But we are still marrying for our own sake, and has the right to choose the best possible person suits us.
I agree with you on obligation of help strengthen the spouse's faith. But end of the day everyone is answerable to his/her own deeds to Allah.
Everyone is accountable for their own deeds. And there are those who will be held accountable for the deeds of others. Like a parent would for his child's upbringing, or a husband who neglected his wife's lack of piety.
Marriage is something that Allah (SWT) made lawful for us. If you marry because you just want to and not to please Allah (SWT), than the blessings won't be there.
I wouldnt have been interested to marry someone who wasnt a Muslim. Nor would have been interested in someone who didnt pray 5 times a day. If they dont even take care of their relationship with God, why would I expect them to take care of their relationship with me!
no offense to anyone, just sharing my personal feelings
Relationship with Allah does not make someone a good spouse. Your relationship with humans is what makes a home . I know many people who are namazi and parhaizgar but they have divorced multiple times. I can agree that their first wife was not religious and they ended up divorcing her, but divorcing two or three women means that their relationship with Allah did not teach them how to take care of relationship with humans.
This doctor I know is very nice and courteous with everybody at Masjid, his sons are very well behaved and well mannered , but I was shocked to hear that he and his wife are divorced now. I could not add 2 and 2 and do not have the stomach to ask him. I have many of those examples which I can quote.
If you miss on namaz , Allah will not come and complain. But if you do not care for your wife or husband they will be bitter about it in no time.
Keeping a right balance between religion and your worldly obligations is a very delicate balancing act.
If you miss on namaz , Allah will not come and complain. But if you do not care for your wife or husband they will be bitter about it in no time. Keeping a right balance between religion and your worldly obligations is a very delicate balancing act.
I agree, couldn't have been said any better.