Re: future spouse, being Namazi
I would love to . Only a great mother can produce great kids . Kehtay haan khoon ka bohat asar hota ha .
**i serously dont think that if someone doesnt pray that they wont be capable of being a good husband or a good father
that doesnt prove anything**
seriously... that so should not be the basis of someones character and their capability of being good at anything else
just for the record, im a 4 time namazi and my husband doesnt pray all that much... but he's a wonderful father and husband... so i think what ur saying is highly judgemental and baseless
Totally agree..
Ok I know its a taboo to discuss the religious aspects in Life1 (shoot me) rolleyes but how many of you would make it a condition when selecting your future partner that he/she needs to be a 5 times namazi?
I am not talking about a guy with long beard or a girl who wears hijab. I am talking about a quote unquote normal person who along with watching TV and going to movies and listening to songs, also prays. How many of you would say, I am not going to marry a person who does not pray 5 times a day?
I'm one of those who wouldn't even consider someone if they didn't pray 5 times a day regularly.
You may be right but that's how I think :( The people that i've seen tend to be from one extreme to the other.
You might be seeing wrong peoples, i myself pray 5 time, i know so many our Pakistani friends here who prays and non demand wives to wear hijab.
On other side they might not liberal enough to allow wife or daughters to walk in the street wearing shorts
That's not true. Where in Islamic history do you see the advocation of adopting religion because your husband tells you to?
Janaab, you want to turn it into a religious conversation then I am more than happy to do so. Prophets daughter (zainab) left her hubby who refused to accept Islam. Spouse spiritual faith do come in play. I can go more but this is not religion forum
I wouldnt have been interested to marry someone who wasnt a Muslim. Nor would have been interested in someone who didnt pray 5 times a day. If they dont even take care of their relationship with God, why would I expect them to take care of their relationship with me!
no offense to anyone, just sharing my personal feelings
I am quite impressed by your thought process
i serously dont think that if someone doesnt pray that they wont be capable of being a good husband or a good father
Sadzzz, there is a dark side to it. If husband goes on not to fulfill his husband duties, the only way he can come back if he is obligated by religion. You cannot convince a non-namazi husband (not to the extreme degree) by showing him hadees and Ayaat to become a 'Good' husband.
offering namaz 5 times a day doesn't make ya religious, just makes you a practicing muslim
ditto. namaz is farz and if someone is offering it diligently then yes it makes them more of a practising muslim than those who don't and it does tell you a bit about how big a role religion plays in their life. it was not a prerequisite for me because frankly at that point in time, religion did not play a very big role in my day to day life.
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
I have quoted example of my ex-husband in some other thread too and I am quoting again. My ex did not only prayed 5 times namaz but also tahajud. He has always attended taraweehz regularly. He reads Quran. He does tasbeeh of drood shareef every day. Recite Sura-e- Kahaf every friday. He even do salat-e-tasbeeh every friday. I guess everyone here how much of a good husband he was to me and a good father to my daughther.
On the other hand I know many people who dont pray and fast but are excellent to their families.
Only Allah knows your intentions. But many many people like to boast about their namaz and roza and use it as a weapon to belittle others. Namaz is between Allah and his people and should not be showed off. Hence, I firmly believe that a full time namazi and parhezgar will not always prove to be good to their families.
ditto. namaz is farz and if someone is offering it diligently then yes it makes them more of a practising muslim than those who don't and it does tell you a bit about how big a role religion plays in their life.
Really? It does not? You are doing something that does not make any common sense but doing it out of religious obligation and religion still is not playing any role?
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Only Allah knows your intentions. But many many people like to boast about their namaz and roza and use it as a weapon to belittle others.
That is cheap shot if someone does that but does that mean that you would think that being namazs is not important trait in ones personality. Off course your hubby could be an exception.
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
Better question is, would that 5x nimazi consider me (or you)?
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I thnk it does shape your personality somehow.
Praying 5 x a day = exercise discipline and self control..in pretty much most aspects of ones life
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
TLK: sorry I didn't get that...I think you misunderstood. I meant for a practising muslim who prays 5 times, it shows their level of committment to the religion and how big a role religion play in their day to day life.
I have quoted example of my ex-husband in some other thread too and I am quoting again. My ex did not only prayed 5 times namaz but also tahajud. He has always attended taraweehz regularly. He reads Quran. He does tasbeeh of drood shareef every day. Recite Sura-e- Kahaf every friday. He even do salat-e-tasbeeh every friday. I guess everyone here how much of a good husband he was to me and a good father to my daughther.
On the other hand I know many people who dont pray and fast but are excellent to their families.
Only Allah knows your intentions. But many many people like to boast about their namaz and roza and use it as a weapon to belittle others. Namaz is between Allah and his people and should not be showed off. Hence, I firmly believe that a full time namazi and parhezgar will always prove to be good to their families.
Agree!
One have to understand Namaz. Roza all are Huqooq -Ullah (our obligation towards Allah), if one neglect these it would totally on Allah he may forgive at his sole discretion.
But these Huqooq Ul-Ibad (obligation toward others), even Allah says he would not forgive unless the victim forgive. Those peoples actually distracting by Shaitan thiking that due to their prayers, thahjjuds and other nawafils they are free to do whatever they could with peoples.
Sometime peoples are weak and powerless to seek revenge, but rest assure they would be paying for whatever they have done.
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
TLK, i dont think religion is the onyl that makes someone become a good human being... its love, family and support..
TLK: sorry I didn't get that...I think you misunderstood. I meant for a practising muslim who prays 5 times, it shows their level of committment to the religion and how big a role religion play in their day to day life.
oops sorry ,my fault Patriox. I read 'does' as 'does not' in your post. I apologize :)
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
:) no problem
I thnk it does shape your personality somehow.
Praying 5 x a day = exercise discipline and self control..in pretty much most aspects of ones life
u reckon? so if someone prays 5 times a day... u reckon they are better at avoiding temptations like buying something that they dont need... going shopping and spending money when they dont need to?
yes religion and namaz shapes u... but it doesnt make u any better of a human being than somenoe who doesnt.
Re: future spouse, being Namazi
I might consider. See religion was created by man to control men. So hopefully I should be able to use religion to keep her under my full control (ofcourse assuming she really is a pakki muslim).
TLK, i dont think religion is the onyl that makes someone become a good human being... its love, family and support..
I agree. I also dont beleive that an atheist cannot be a good human/fathwer/hubby. I am just saying that religion creates an extra layer of security so it could stop the other spouse to go off his/her duties. Religion does stop people from doing bad stuff.
Sadzzz, there is a dark side to it. If husband goes on not to fulfill his husband duties, the only way he can come back if he is obligated by religion. You cannot convince a non-namazi husband (not to the extreme degree) by showing him hadees and Ayaat to become a 'Good' husband.
I would disagree with above. A person who wants to escape from his responsibility will find every tactic even if you show him hadees and ayaat. My ex husband never gave me maintanence saying that he's not obligated because his wife earns........I showed him every aspect of islam which implies that wife's maintanecne is upon husband but he refused to obey it. Doesn't he know that maintanence of a child is upon father yet he didn't even spend a single rupee and I repeat a single rupee on his daughter his reason was
" Allah ki cheez hai bachna hoga to bach jaye gi aur marna hoga to mar jaye gi" . You dont know the mind of such people they have an excuse to backup every worng doings by them and to such people Quran , Hadees and Ayats doesn't work. They keep sharai HAQ MEHAR but take full JAHEZ and taunt wife if something was missing in JAHEZ ......I can go on and on on this issue.
TLK with all due respect whatevere you are talking abt is superficial . A person cannot be judged solely because of his namaz and roza. Believe me many people do it to show to the world how good they are.