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In the US, 30K wouldn’t be remotely sufficient at all for the life style we are accustomed to, not even close, pretty much every state…
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wouldn't it depend on the cost of living in whichever state you live in? for instance the cost of living in a place like los angeles is significantly higher than the cost of living in say a place like little rock, arkansas. any dollar amount that allows for comfortable living without worrying whether they can make the rent or the mortage payments on time while trying to put food on the table. financial security
Nisha u silly daydreamer. Ugly girls--especially guppans--don't deserve to eat AND have a roof over their heads. :)
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These are impt as per me:
Muslim
Pakistani-origin
education
good job/ income
nice/loving mom and dad (would be saas sussar)
you find him attractive in appearance
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I think its missing "Understanding"! I rate that the highest.
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Wow. What genius calculations. And yet so many of us are happily married. So what’s the deal with that? Perhaps the logic you have employed is remarkably flawed and painfully idiotic?
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How does attractiveness equate to income/ job?
Well, in that case, income shouldn't be on the list of things you want. Men bring income to the table, women bring their looks. Those are the terms of the trade. To pretend other wise is naively idealistic.
wouldn't it depend on the cost of living in whichever state you live in?y
Depends entirely on your lifestyle. $15k a year will let you survive anywhere in the US (rent, food, insurance). Anything above that isn't really a "cost of living". It's a cost of living large.
In the US, 30K wouldn't be remotely sufficient at all for the life style we are accustomed to, not even close, pretty much every state...
Half of the US earns under $30k a year. So half of the wealthiest country in the world lives a lifestyle that isn't "remotely sufficient at all" be your standards.
Wow. What genius calculations. And yet so many of us are happily married. So what's the deal with that? Perhaps the logic you have employed is remarkably flawed and painfully idiotic?
I guess I am the bad guy for pointing out you need to offer something to get something in return. Every person has different demands, I'm guessing income and attractiveness are the variable components for most people. It is a trade off for the parties involved, they don't call it the marriage market for nothing. Are all desi women so painfully naive?
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Muslim: yes.
Pakistani-origin: doesn't matter.
Education: yes
good job/ income: yes
good family background (to assure he's shareef, good-natured etc. etc.): haha, family background doesn't always guarantee the guy to be shareef/good-natured etc. as well.
nice/loving mom and dad (would be saas sussar): i'm marrying him, not his amma abba.
you find him attractive in appearance: meh, beauty doesn't always have the brains.
possible family setup you'll be living in (single unit or joint or whatever): yes
Conservative/ moderate/ liberal (acc. to your preference i.e will have no problem with u working etc.): yes
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Depends entirely on your lifestyle. $15k a year will let you survive anywhere in the US (rent, food, insurance). Anything above that isn't really a "cost of living". It's a cost of living large.
What?! Your kidding right? $15K a year? What kind of insurances are you exactly including? And NO that would not be okay for EVERY part of the US.............and I didn't know that anyone earning above $15K a year is living large..............
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In the US, 30K wouldn't be remotely sufficient at all for the life style we are accustomed to, not even close, pretty much every state...
I beg to differ, I know people including myself who have lived on less than 30K..its enough for a single person or a couple with no kids, but it's still a good starting point.
I guess I am the bad guy for pointing out you need to offer something to get something in return. Every person has different demands, I'm guessing income and attractiveness are the variable components for most people. It is a trade off for the parties involved, they don't call it the marriage market for nothing. Are all desi women so painfully naive?
Only if all desi men are so painfully shallow?
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What?! Your kidding right? $15K a year? What kind of insurances are you exactly including? And NO that would not be okay for EVERY part of the US.............and I didn't know that anyone earning above $15K a year is living large..............
I put health insurance in there. The sense I get from the thread is we're talking about a "roof over your head" and "food". $15k covers that anywhere in the US. You might not get a beautiful suburban mansion or gourmet food cooked by five star chefs, but you'll live with a roof and food. If you're earning $16k, your earning $1k more than you really need, so in my book, yea your living large. $1k larger than the $15k guy, who is getting along just fine too, just not living it up.
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Only if all desi men are so painfully shallow?
Yea, we're all pretty shallow. Men and women. C'est la vie.
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aaaaand you totally missed the point.
What country do you live in?
For a family of 2, 15K isn’t even the poverty level in most states in the US!
http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty/data/threshld/index.html
http://aspe.hhs.gov/poverty/09poverty.shtml
Now before you go accusing people of wanting to live large, nobody wants to “just get by” and live in utter poverty. Most people do have standards of living!
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Muslim : YES
Pakistani-origin : NO
education: Yes
height: No
good job/ income: A stable job Yes/ income = enough to support himself
good family background (to assure he's shareef, good-natured etc. etc.): Somewhat, I don't see how his family background could necessarily mean he's shareef, good-natured etc., **
nice/loving mom and dad (would be saas sussar): **The dad (susar) part used to be a requirement but not anymore.
you find him attractive in appearance: Yes
possible family setup you'll be living in (single unit or joint or whatever): I prefer living with his parents-so Joint I guess.
Conservative/ moderate/ liberal (acc. to your preference i.e will have no problem with u working etc.): ** Somewhat relative, but Conservative I guess **
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I live in the US. Yea I meant $15k for a single person. So for two it'd be $30k.
I think asking for a guy who makes $30k+ is just as unreasonable as asking for a woman who is top 50%. Didn't mean to imply Guppans are unattractive, but maybe have a strong sense of entitlement. But if you guys are happily married and raking in the moolah, who am I to tell you otherwise?
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^^ 30K for a couple? maybe in the short run yeah but not do-able in the long run when people have kids.
This would just barely cover rent/bills.
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How many things out of, lets say a list of ten, should be ticked when deciding to marry a man or when you decided to marry him. Some wise aunties say that even if six of these things are ticked you should go for it. The list could look something like this: (of course it may be different for everyone acc. to their priorities)
Muslim Pakistani-origin education height good job/ income good family background (to assure he's shareef, good-natured etc. etc.) nice/loving mom and dad (would be saas sussar) you find him attractive in appearance possible family setup you'll be living in (single unit or joint or whatever) Conservative/ moderate/ liberal (acc. to your preference i.e will have no problem with u working etc.)
How many and which of these need to be absolutely ticked for you to seriously consider marrying him?
if the 1st and 2nd are YES, rest is redundant as you already got a gem of a husband.
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none of them.
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^^ 30K for a couple? maybe in the short run yeah but not do-able in the long run when people have kids. This would just barely cover rent/bills.
It's $15k per person, so with 1 kid, $45k. If the man contributes all of this (unlikely), then the women better be a very good mother lol.
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I live in the US. Yea I meant $15k for a single person. So for two it'd be $30k.
I think asking for a guy who makes $30k+ is just as unreasonable as asking for a woman who is top 50%. Didn't mean to imply Guppans are unattractive, but maybe have a strong sense of entitlement. But if you guys are happily married and raking in the moolah, who am I to tell you otherwise?
It's not unreasonable and re: your ponit of entitlement, well I don't see the majority of girls here being unreasonable. No body wants to live hand to mouth/paycheck to paycheck for the rest of their lives, and attraction has nothing to do with it
Men don't marry women who tehy are not attracted to--physical beauty and being attracted are two totally different things, so a woman may not be in that 50% but that doesnet mean shes any less deserving of being married or being loved
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physical beauty and being attracted are two totally different things.
yup, if both of them were required, many of the pakistani girls were not married and loved by their hubbys...
tee hee