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I'm not sure about this, but any relationship should naturally culminate into something and for important romantic relationships...I guess marriage is the answer. I think it should happen, but not too early. I also think we all place too many expectations and limit ourselves in a marriage and that leads to feeling claustrophobia. I would assume if two people can decide on leading a life together and building a home together while allowing each other to still pursue their interests and lead their own lives...people would be happier. You don't own each other once you get married. I don't like the scrutiny people face in a marriage, though. As for the parent-child scenario, it's all about what you can give your child. Some people can stay together but not provide a wholesome living for their kid..and it would be better to split up. But, hey...if a child is keeping you together and giving you hope and you can give them care and love together...then great. :)

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Its complicated.

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Ah you cut open a bad old wound. My husband once said to me, "we should not have children, kiya pata tum kab chali jao" .... still hurts. I don't blame him though but the statement makes me feel I am not worthy of parenthood. I shouldn't be mad either because anyone who is able to put up with me has the patience of a saint.

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I agree with all of you suggesting that it is not the "responsibility" of the child to keep a marriage together.......but having said that, I don't think that there is anything wrong with a person that chooses to forego their own wants and desires, which may not be in harmony with their partner, to provide that child with a secure, loving and healthy atmosphere to grow up in.

I had a friend who was in a horrible marriage.....he was abusive verbally, emotionally and some unconfirmed rumours suggested that even physically. Her elder sister advocated divorce; said that the kids were terrified in their own home and there was no need for anyone to subject themselves to this sort of behaviour. I even supported the sister. Ultimately the friend decided to remain in the marriage "for the sake of the kids". I was not able to watch the outcome and can't really comment on the mental health of the two kids that grew up there because the husband pretty much isolated her from everyone that had advocated divorce. I know that at least one of the kids finished university and is married now; not sure about the other. I don't believe that my friend has regretted her decision but this thread is now prompting me to look her up and see if I can reconnect.

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tell him not to worry.....you'd take the kids with you... :D

j/k

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^HAHA..today is our 4th Wedding Anniversary too! We are happy and I love him. Gotta plan tonight!

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In happier days, its fun to advocate "dont put the responsibility on the child" . When the time comes to decide to forego wishes and ego , you look at the child and decide to sacrifice yourself and try to make the best of the situation, rather then create a single parent scenario for the child. Unless of course there is a strong reason like what Muzna said , abuse is a very valid reason where one can walk away without any guilt.

But in a marriage , where a child is safe with the other parent, is enjoying a healthy upbringing between the couple, there are women out there who will let go of their will and wish and what not , to win it all for their child.

Like I said, when you get in the boat, you wont think you are putting a burden on the child, you would also not think it as unethical, you will see this as quite fulfilling and you will see yourself as someone who is protecting your child's best interest in every way possible.

PS: walking away out of a troubled marriage which is only troubled not abusive , is the easiest route a woman can take. What is unethical is the children having to yearn for either a mother or a father after the custody battles get going.

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^Four years into the marriage and this is starting to make sense to me and I am not even a mother. Unless the relationship is abusive, it's worth trying to make it work! What's the point of prolonging arguments and fights? What good will come out of it? Say what you feel and truly try to understand your other half's point of view. The problem is people don't want to make relationships work anymore. They are busy in self-victimization tactics and focusing on what's wrong.

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There are different relationships along the spectrum:

One end - the couple love/adore each other and the children truly are a bond that strengthen their relationship
Other extreme end - couple cannot tolerate one another and truly have no caring, empathy or concern for one another and are together only for the sake of the children.

I think most people who speak of staying together - their relationship is somewhere in between.

My comment is focussed on those people who do not like or care for one another and any love or respect or affection for one another is long gone. For this category of couple, staying together because it is in the best interest of their children is often a cop-out. The children sense and realize that the parents do not like each other and the child becomes victim of a dysfunctional relationship - many times playing referree between his/her parents. I think my major objective in the comment is that for those that say we are together for the sake of the children - they need to find a way to like and care for their spouse and see the positive attributes. They may never be madly in love, but respect, concern and affection and even better friendship go a long way.

Like I said earlier, it is a burden on the child(ren) to know that but for them, the parents wouldn't be together - it's not healthy.

^ This! If you're committed to the relationship for whatever reason - then make an effort to make the relationship work. Why be unhappy?

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you are spot on with regards to realizing that most people have their relationship somewhere in the middle of the two points you mentioned.

I feel different women have different threshold of accepting hurt. I have stopped raising fingers on women who give their life to their children and keep going in relationships. The only thing I now advocate is that if you are bearing something for the sake of kids , then please ensure that your kids find themselves in healthy environment rather then a stressful one that can invoke negative feelings in them for life.

Why be unhappy? because its not easy as it sounds , this whole process of trying to understand the other , sometimes its easy if both people are easy going and understanding each other. In majority cases though one person or both can have difficult personalities in which case it can take years to develop a bond.

As an unmarried man this scares me.

From the sounds of this and other responses it seems that no matter how much effort you put into marriage, you may still be dissatisfied at the end of the day.

So to all those who have regrets, are u you guys happy?

As far as stayong together for the kids goes, I can totally understand. At times in arrange (and love for that matter) marriages it can be the only mutual objective that keeps a couple bonded.

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SO true

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I was married to this beautiful French girl for seven years, we had time of our life and then we went our separate ways, yes I would go back in time and marry her again and separate again, It is better to have loved and lost then to never have experienced love.

Life should not be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside in a cloud of smoke, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming "Wow! What a Ride!” Quote

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Hi Shawns

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Does the western world have it right then? Plenty of my friends grew up in families where their parents were never married, and as adults some of have married themselves and some have stayed in long partnerships and some have been with a few people. I know the focus of marriage for all those people is really companionship, when they haven't felt that with the person they're with, they've moved on to the next one.

I don't know its kind of disheartening to think that you'll put up with so much just to keep your kids happy? i thought the old age adage was for your kids to be happy you have to be happy. I'm not talking about being miserably unhappy but even if you feel like you've lost yourself or that you have to make do, seems like a really depressing feeling. Do kids not pick up on that?

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Khoob pahchaana...mujhe to dhoka ho gayaa thaa! :D

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Is it kha or ka?

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Hahaaha

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That's not true. There is never anything easy about a women choosing to end her marriage. Just because there is no physical abuse doesn't mean that it's a healthy environment for children. There is was no physical abuse between my parents but their marriage was the most dysfunctional and unhealthy union ever. The best decision my mother ever made was to end their marriage. There was nothing unethical about it.

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'Kha' as in Khomeini, Khadim-e-'aalaa, Khartoum, Khargosh etc