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We deserve the best treatment 
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Seriously though, you should treat your woman the way you plan to treat her for the rest of her life. This pulling the chair business is good and dandy if you are willing to do the same after the Nikah Form is signed. And same goes for women too.
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^ Yes, make her understand that her place is in the kitchen...none of this romantic crap....forget her birthday on purpose...so she is used to it after nikkah, no opening doors and pulling the chairs...they want equality, pull your own damn chair and open the freaking door yourself.
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Agreed. That would save a lot of grief and disappointments.
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He should pay. I'd offer, but he should pay. :p
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hahahahahaha.
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I hope you are kidding about the latter.
Note ladies, afore you say “aww” if you subscribe to the theory that man and women are, not only are you a “foaming inthe mouth feminist” but chivilary is out the window. Just so you are aware - I am indeed a foaming feminist - I never ever ever ever let anyone pay for me for anything, neither do I accept jackets in the freezing cold. If however there is a seat on the subway - and only the one then I stand. It has somthing to do with politeness and so such.
In most cases feminists are not after someone who will “take care” of them at the expense of being looked down upon. If they are, then they’ll prolly get who they deserve.
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do you often contradict yourself while you dwell in your own little world, hiccy?
If you agree with the latter part, so why would you think I was kidding? There is a large group of women out there who want to have their cake and eat it too. The latter part of the post was meant for them.
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In my world people like you (blissfully) don't exist, this was one of the few moments in which I ventured out.
In most cases feminists are not after someone who will "take care" of them at the expense of being looked down upon. If they are, then they'll prolly get who they deserve.<<<<<<<<
That doesnt condone what can easily be mistaken for blatent rudeness. Its not difficult to come across as a pompous jackass, you seem to be blissfully unconcious of that fact. Shes not your miss perfect? Great....doesnt exuse you lowering your standards.
Man have constructed their own bakerys and forced women to work in it for years. Why does it piss people off now?
But whatever, goodluck with that.
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Hiccup u mean to say traditional women are those who are looked down upon? Traditional women can be feminists too not necessarily 'foaming in the mouth' ones though. Just cos a guy is being chivalrous doesn;t necessarily mean he is going to trample all over u or look down upon you. Atleast a true gentleman wouldn't, but then how many of that species do we really have :D
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Ahhhh, Fehmida, such a good post. Jazaak Allah Khairun. We missed each other at ISNA by seconds…oh well, hope springs eternal.
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Alhamdolillah lakshmi ji, zaroor koi na koi maslihat ho gi hum donon ke liyay 
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Nope, I meant to say - that dope is the one who made that distinction. I am a great advocate of chivalry, its an extention of common decency. That was the point I was ham-footedly trying to make.
What (by the by) is “traditional” mindedness anyway? Define the role of a women role as tradition has etched it.
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I'd like to hear the definition coming from Dope since he is the one who made a distinction between the two to start with.
come on now dope...
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The guy should pay most of the time............unless you are friends and just out then it doesn't matter...but if you are with your partner then I have to go all traditional and expect the guy to pay..even though I wouldn't mind paying and definately offer to pay.
oh and what's wrong with acceptin a jacket in the cold...i always do it...its sweet of someone to offer in the first place.
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Traditional = Cooks, Cleans and produces babies...and does not nag/bitch
Modern = PIA (pain in the arse), constant nagging, demands equality, however, likes romantic things such as taking the jacket when she is cold, thinks its so sweet that soemone opened the door for her or pulled the chair etc etc.
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Thats the problem with people, they can only think of one extreme or the other. u r clearly saying that the kind of woman u prefer is one u would consider inferior to you, since she wont be asking for or getting equality. tsk.
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FF, Are you in the middle?
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rehne dein Kaleem. That was a disappointing reply from you.
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I cook clean wash etc, also wanna have babies but i still like romantic stuff, like the latter....what does that make me? Why can't women be both...women ARE allowed to have their own opinions, they are not robots that can be programmed by a man. Thats just pathetic.