Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

[KKF]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

in one of the interviews, did you know which song Raf’ii saab himself picked as the best song he ever sang?

this was the song which he sang LIVE in one of the Door Darshan programs:

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Saw ur post on "What's new". Without seeing the video there was no doubt which song u were referring to. This is what I call the Perfect song. Learnt two yrs ago this is my bros fav song also.

[GoldenAsif]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@Southie

I have been singing this song on my drive back and forth to work. As you said simple background music. Don’t know who wrote lyrics. Masterful job.

Yes 70s were glorious. Cricket and muscle. 50s and 60s for music.

Mahendra Kapoor was good. Haven’t heard of other two. Haven’t had chance to watch Pakistani dramas.

Yes current songs are trashy. Some exceptions now and then.

And Rafi is only 26 here. It beggar’s belief that he had such a mature voice in his 20s.

You haven’t watched Amitabh’s Coolie!!! (film in which he got injured).

Shabbir Kumar

Mujhe Peene Ka Shauk - Coolie 1983 - 720p HD

[KKF]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

i believe Sonu Nigam’s voice is more similar to Raf’ii saab’s as compared to either Shabbir Kumar or MoHammad Aziz.

there was a singer by the name of Vicky Mehta whose voice was more like Raf’ii saab’s. here is one example:

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@GoldenAsif

And Rafi is only 26 here. It beggar’s belief that he had such a mature voice in his 20s.

You haven’t watched Amitabh’s Coolie!!! (film in which he got injured).

Shabbir Kumar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zc0cO2S4RLs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-I3DvoH8MQ

Left India 1982. So hadn’t watched this movie. Watched it in DVDsbt 3 yrs back. Assumed it was Rafi on his way down! Rafi sang some rubbish songs during his later years.

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Been listening to the Deedar song. Keeps getting better with each listen.

Lyricist Shakeel Badayuni. Props to him also.

[KKF]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

on July 29, 1981 [33 years ago], Raf’ii saab recorded this song at 9:30 am [without music] and two hours later at 11:30 am he passed away after a massive heart attack. aur phir, vo hamesha ke liye Khaamosh ho gaye magar unkii aawaaz aaj bhii hamaare diloN meN aur rooHoN meN-jalwa gar hai.

we ALL MISS you, Raf’ii saab!

[devilish_angel]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

^ why this here

[GoldenAsif]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

baat se baat nikalti hai!

[phoenixdesi]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@GoldenAsif

Yes what a wonderful song, very limited musical instruments. Those who will listen to this song 100 years from now, will have the same feeling as those that listened to it > 60 years ago!!! Unbelievable. The song is from the film Deedar (1951). Great voice of Mohammed Rafi matching Dilip Kumar's own voice. Dilip is only 28 or 29 here! Might watch the film this week-end, apparently a great tragic movie with fine acting by Dilip

Although I had listened to Rafi before, I really became a fan of his voice and songs in England in the early 90s through an indian friend Rohit who was a mutual friend of one of my Pakistani friends. He would always listen to Rafi in his spare time. Among those who tried to copy Rafi's voice, Mohinder Kapoor (hey neeley gagan k taley etc.When I first listened to the song, I actually thought it was Rafi!!) and Shabbir Kumar (Koolie songs incl. mujhe peeney ka shoq nahin etc. He had a great voice but for some reason stopped singing after a few years) were very good. Muhammad Aziz was passable, not as good as the other two imo.

Although I do watch current Bollywood films if someone recommends it, my favourite Indian songs remain the all time classics from the 60s, 70s and 80s sung by Rafi, Kishore, Lata and Asha. The songs from that era are full of life and meaning.

70s and 80s was the golden age of everything be it cricket, hockey, bollywood films or Pakistan Television Dramas written by the incomparable Haseena Moin. (They just don't make dramas like Ankahi, Waaris or Tanhaiyan etc. any more)

Sadly these days 'Muni badnam hui' type songs are hits...imlee k paer par ya pata nahin kiss mein kya etc...Absolutely no meaning!!

I would even call most of the current songs rubbish or beyhooda

I am so glad that rafi sahib decided not to migrate to pakistan or else we would have spoiled his great talent just like we destroyed noor jehan and made her sing truck driver songs for good 20 years....

When you compare rahif sahib, kishor and mukesh you will realize that it is easy to imitate kishore and mukesh and many singers were able to do that but it is virtually impossible to copy rafi...the sweetness, melodiousness, vibrancy, pitch, nodes, sur....everything is unbelievably synced. Mohindar kumar and shabir kumar were no where close to rafi sahib although i do recognize that shabir would give you an impression of rafi for good 5 seconds.... mohindar had a higher pitch and a bit heavy voice.

while i admire/appreciate thousands of rafi songs, i in particular love his partnership with actor shammi kapoor...that was one deadly combo and rafi sahib sang some amazing sharp fast-paced songs for shammi jee...and no one ever filmed a song better than shammi kapoor...

[phoenixdesi]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@Khalil KhaaN FaaKhta

i believe Sonu Nigam’s voice is more similar to Raf’ii saab’s as compared to either Shabbir Kumar or MoHammad Aziz.

there was a singer by the name of Vicky Mehta whose voice was more like Raf’ii saab’s. here is one example:

not at all…sonu is pathetic and i hate that he sings rafi sings without much practice…you obviously dont know much abt music

shabir was the closest, if you ask me and even he could only match maybe 10-15% of rafi.. shabir did not have that special melody in his voice

[phoenixdesi]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@devilish_angel

^ why this here

sorry auntie jee!

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@ Mr. Phoenix

Let the records indicate my like was for paras 2 and 3.

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Back on topic.

Milne Se majboor. Does this mean obligated to meet? Or not able to meet?
dard bhari fariyad. Here fariyad means story?
Afsana means what?
baati means wick?
Abaad means free?

[KKF]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Back on topic.

Milne Se majboor. Does this mean obligated to meet? Or not able to meet? dard bhari fariyad. Here fariyad means story? Afsana means what? baati means wick? Abaad means free?

milne se majboor = unable to meet
faryaad = lamentations
afsana = story / tale
yes...baatii = wick
aabaad = inhabited
abad = eternity

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Thanks. So

Rahe ye Dil ka nagar Abaad

In this sentence Abaad means inhabited?

[superman85]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Abd is an Arabic word meaning subordinate. Abaad means populated.

Abaadi is population. And in the first instance, the correct spelling will be somewhere middle of Abd and Abad which means eternity. Or forever.

[KKF]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Thanks. So

Rahe ye Dil ka nagar Abaad

In this sentence Abaad means inhabited?

yes, may this heart be inhabited! :)

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

Thanks!

[Southie]

Re: Final - India v Sri Lanka, (06 April 2014) Shere Bangla National Stadium, Mirpur

@superman85

Abd is an Arabic word meaning subordinate. Abaad means populated.

http://i1061.photobucket.com/albums/t473/iamsuperman85/smileys/moil.gif

Abaadi is population. And in the first instance, the correct spelling will be somewhere middle of Abd and Abad which means eternity. Or forever.

So are u saying Rahe Dil ka nagar (abd+abad)/2 here it means eternity.

Are you playing holi?