http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/02/15/nkidnap215.xml
cant help but to feel extremely disgusted over this. i dont know what is wrong with some of the muslims in the uk to feel this way.
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Self imposed segration begets poverty, low education, parochial perversions and seething hatred of self which manifests into projecting onto another. Blame the other, kill the other instead of examining self.
I agree. Hang 'em or prison 'em for a very , very, very , very long, long, time.
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I have heard stories about mulims in uk being so extremist and being so moronic.
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thats european muslims for you... a continent full of nut cases.
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I have heard stories about mulims in uk being so extremist and being so moronic.
but y?
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I think they are frustrated because of discrimination.
Life in N-Amreeka is much better or muslims.
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You gotta love the rights citizens and residents of USA/Canada enjoy.
Give the credit where it’s due. If you can stay away from CNN/AL Jazeera and just focus on domestic life, America’s a pretty good nation for the people who just wanna live in peace and mind their own business.
God Bless America (please excuse the jhanda…)
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Im not living in America/Canada and IM enjoying a lot more than you guys...a lot more that I had have never been screened from top to toe and I have been to put into special interrogation rooms because of my color, my name, my beard, my religion.
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The european muslims have predominately have chosen to live within their own community. They develop their own schools which lack credible teachers and even the curriculum is not up to par compared to other schools. They refuse to assimilate. When you cloister yourself the opportunities dwindle.
Recently a great documentary was made about the Muslims in UK who choose to live a life seperate from the rest of Britain. WHo choose not to be part of the west. All they did was spew aspersions . ANd they are the ones who came to UK! This is where the extremism/radicalism sprouts. They beget their own limited opportunities by the mere fact they have fostered isolation amongst their youth. When youth leaves to find opportunity they realize they have not been served well in education OR skills and training and they are then not fully able to compete for good jobs/positions.
I have a friend who is a teacher in grade four. The child was not doing the homework , participating in curriculum because the parents are so entrenched in their own ways. When parents were told the child is not doing well, needs to do homework etc , parents said the child can't do homework as too busy with mosque etc on nightly basis. THey informed my friedd mosque more important then school work at night. WELL , i AM SURE THERE ARE PLENTY OF SUCH PARENTS WHO ARE POLLUTING THEIR CHILD'S FUTURE IN THE WEST. AND WHEN CHILD GROWS UP AND REALIZES THEY ARE OUT OF PLACE WHAT ARE THEY TO DO? exactly, they become the car burning hooligans. Next some fanatic brainwashes their minds with extremism madrasa curriculum and fueling their minds with parochial perversions more appropriate for the ignorant of 1400 years ago.
UK muslims don't want to assimilate, many in Austria try to foister their beliefs on a society they came to live in. iN LINZ, they wanted public school teachers to wear headscarfs. EXCUSE ME, BUT IT'S AUSTRIAN TERRITORY AND WAY OF LIFE. THEY WANT COVERED SCHOOL TEACHERS , I SAY GO BACK HOME TO WHERE YOU CAME. Aufwiedersehen dumkopf!!!! The same in germany. Perhaps they should adapt to the country instead of telling the country how it should be and how people should DRESS AND BEHAVE.
When they segregate themselves they do an injustice to the future generations. And many of these young people are just taking up arms not in a belief of their faith but just to be hooligans and thugs hiding THROUGH FRUSTRATION. DON'T BLAME IT ON LIVING IN THE WEST AS MUCH AS WHAT THE ELDERS ARE DOING TO THEIR DESCENDANTS IN THE WEST.
Assimilation is the key to immigration AND SUCCESSFUL INTEGRATION INTO SOCIETY.
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Self imposed segration begets poverty, low education, parochial perversions and seething hatred of self which manifests into projecting onto another. Blame the other, kill the other instead of examining self.
I have heard stories about mulims in uk being so extremist and being so moronic.
thats european muslims for you... a continent full of nut cases.
I think they are frustrated because of discrimination. Life in N-Amreeka is much better or muslims.
How stupid of you all. All of this stuff for some reason always links back to Pakistan. Blame the crazy Pakistanis. All of you dont have a clue about Pakistan comuninty in the UK.
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thats european muslims for you... a continent full of nut cases.
Just for the record, European Muslims have more a voice in what goes on, than American muslims ever have.
British Parliament has countless number of MPz who are Muslim, can you name any muslim senators/Congressmen besides Keith Ellison who have taken a stand for muslim values and principles?
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Thats it true....Especially those living in the UK.
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Just for the record, European Muslims have more a voice in what goes on, than American muslims ever have.
Just for the record, no American Muslim has been conivcted of plotting the kidnap and execution of a soldier while planning to film and release for propaganda. What in the hell does this have to do Muslim with legislators "standing for muslim values and principles"?
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You sure about that? Don’t you watch CNN, America’s most trusted source of news, saying there are sleeper cells. (AMERICAN MUSLIMS, SUPPOSEDLY 
)
Don’t you know the politicians hold a voice. Jewish lobby for Israel. Indian Lobby for India. And policies include values and principles that are more suited for a certain community.
And if there were enough Muslims actively participating and being elected, there would be a more suitable Middle-East policy. Or even Domestically. (Hint Hint the name AHMED does not mean he’s boarding the plane for mischief.)
Or do you think the Middle-East policy is fair as it is?
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I think he is referring to the rights of speaking out loud (freedom of speech) in a country where you actually cannot speak out loud at all. Especially when you have different views/opinions to share. Muslims are one group suffering the most.
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Just for the record, European Muslims have more a voice in what goes on, than American muslims ever have.
Sorry, you are right. European muslims are all peaceful people.
I meant to say Pakistanis are a menace. I should have specified.
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Speak for yourself.
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Dont need to… I dont live in Europe. I’m also not called Paki scum.
European Pakistanis have done more harm than all other foreign Pakistanis combined. That’s why Pakistanis in North America have it a lot better. :shoaby:
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I cant believe how easy It is to become victim of brain washing If you reside in North America…Allah aap ko naik hidayat de. Ameen.
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Just for the record, no American Muslim has been conivcted of plotting the kidnap and execution of a soldier while planning to film and release for propaganda. What in the hell does this have to do Muslim with legislators "standing for muslim values and principles"?
No American Muslims been convicted of terrorism, or like the above supporting operatives outside the USA? give me a break