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Here is a clip from a Pashtu Movie
I dont know whether to laugh or cry, this is so wrong on so many different levels..I mean if we ignore the obvious and look at other things..I mean look at that damn bear? and they could not find a better hero than grizzly adams? sheesh
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These Mullah's are so boring people
If they ban movies, music, TV,
Then how do they expect people to be entertained?
M2K the only entertainment left will be to have sex as much as possible, every year 1-4 babies depending how many wives you have.
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baat us ki intention ki nahi hai baat yeh hai ke Was she allowed to do it according to islam?Did she follow what rasulallah (p.b.u.h.) said? agar aap maulvis ki baat ker rahe hain then sure i said it before agar woh koii bohat bara gunnah kerte hain to us ki saza unhain is duniya mein jo hukam hai and akhirat mein dono jaga miley gi.
Kiya ab amlon ka daromadar niyat per nahin hota?
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Mostar I have to correct you there, The tourism declined initially due to mullahs. If you compare tourism of 60's and 70's with 80's you would note that after Zia took over things started going downhill. .
Tks for info.
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M2K the only entertainment left will be to have sex as much as possible, every year 1-4 babies depending how many wives you have.
Allah Khair Kare
Re: 'Fatwa' against Pakistani minister for paragliding pics
Kehti thi Nilofar apney french instructor sey:
Meeray des key basi ye Paki Piyaar muhabbat key haiN dushman Dil key aisey kaley Hain Zara muhtaat rehya ga, in photo walooN sey Main bhi bachooN wali hooN aur aap bhi bachooN waley haiN
Wah wah. Muqarar.
Yes but have you heard of this :"INNAMAL AAMALU BIN-NIYYAT "...Aggar uss ki niyat galaa laga kar koi ghalut kaam karnay ki nahin hai...tou phir main nahin sochtaa keh uss nay koi bahut baraa gunah kia hai...Agar woh galaa lagaa kar uss admi ki biwi bunna chahti hai,tou yeh alag baat hai phir...lekin again main nahin samajhta keh uss ki niyat galaay laga kar uss admi saay shaadi karney ki thi,woh sirf us kaa shukriya adaa karnaa chahti thi.
Thats exactly my point, do people who are opposing her action don't believe in innamal aamalu bin niyyat?
Here is a clip from a Pashtu Movie
M2k kiya kiya dhoondhtay ho net pay. LOL
Araay yaar why are you just blaming pashtu movies...Punjabi movies are not less either..Just look at the names ..Akhri Mujra etc.
I am punjabi and have heard some real double meaning songs, I mean wicked.
In other more important news, Sunni vs Shia fighting in Parachinar has killed 50 people. Where is the fatwa from Lal masjid?
Uzbek Jihsdi vs local Taliban fight has killed 250 people. Where is the fatwa from Lal masjid?
Barelvi vs Deobani fighting has killed 1 person, injured others in Karachi. Where is the fatwa from Lal masjid?
And these are just recent incidents over the last week.
Oh they don't care about that because there is no angle in it.
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Yes but have you heard of this :"INNAMAL AAMALU BIN-NIYYAT "...Aggar uss ki niyat galaa laga kar koi ghalut kaam karnay ki nahin hai...tou phir main nahin sochtaa keh uss nay koi bahut baraa gunah kia hai...Agar woh galaa lagaa kar uss admi ki biwi bunna chahti hai,tou yeh alag baat hai phir...lekin again main nahin samajhta keh uss ki niyat galaay laga kar uss admi saay shaadi karney ki thi,woh sirf us kaa shukriya adaa karnaa chahti thi.
aap shayad bhool rahe hain ke niyat ke saath amal bhi hota hai agar us ki niyat aisi thi hi nahi to gala lagane ki zaroorat kiya thi and for example agar hamari neeyat namaz parhnay ki ho and ham naa parhein to kiya hamari namaaz ho jaye gi?
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french instructor mulim nahi hai muslim to nilofar hai :halo:
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aap shayad bhool rahe hain ke niyat ke saath amal bhi hota hai agar us ki niyat aisi thi hi nahi to gala lagane ki zaroorat kiya thi and for example agar hamari neeyat namaz parhnay ki ho and ham naa parhein to kiya hamari namaaz ho jaye gi?
Can you tell some of the reaons a person hugs another person. Once I have your list of reasons then we will move forward.
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Can you tell some of the reaons a person hugs another person. Once I have your list of reasons then we will move forward.
There are lot people that we don't meet for wrong intentions but
1- Did our prophet (p.b.u.h.) hug any na mahram
2-Isn't this clear that shaitaan is every where and all these precautions are just to prevent us from shaitan
3-jis tarah ALLAH tala ka qanoon hia us ko usi tarah rehney dena chahiye agar ALLAH ne mana kiya hai to us mein koii maslehat hai
4-Nilofar ke hug kerne se hamara khuch nahi jata ,naa hi us instructor ka khuch hoa but baat asool ki hai agar islam ne mana kiya hia to is ke agey koii question nahi ke kiyoon kiya hia ,kis liye kiya hai .
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Yes but have you heard of this :"INNAMAL AAMALU BIN-NIYYAT "...Aggar uss ki niyat galaa laga kar koi ghalut kaam karnay ki nahin hai...tou phir main nahin sochtaa keh uss nay koi bahut baraa gunah kia hai...Agar woh galaa lagaa kar uss admi ki biwi bunna chahti hai,tou yeh alag baat hai phir...lekin again main nahin samajhta keh uss ki niyat galaay laga kar uss admi saay shaadi karney ki thi,woh sirf us kaa shukriya adaa karnaa chahti thi.
Saad_UAE......
Allah will judge us by our actions and not by our Niyyahs.
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I have just one question for you..I am sorry ,but if you don't follow Pakistani culture why do you comment on it??You are a British Muslim,it would be better if you just comment on the nuisances in that society and leave us Pakistanis alone.
Second what can i say ,other then that you are a good Muslimah,if you are following all that.
Do I have a right to talk about muslims and Islam?
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Kiya ab amlon ka daromadar niyat per nahin hota?
Chalo fayr khaali niyyat ii ker lya karo............namaz paran di ki lore.
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No fatwa against Nilofer: Pak clerics
New Delhi: The fatwa row in Pakistan flared up against Tourism Minister Nilofer Bakhtiar seems to have subsided after due intervention by Pak President General Pervez Musharraf.
**Islamabad’s Lal Masjid, which reportedly issued a fatwa against the Pak tourism minister for wearing tight clothes and hugging a foreign man, denied on Tuesday that it ever issued one. The chief of the Masjid Maulana Abdul Aziz and his deputy Maulana Ghazi said no decree against Bakhtiar had been issued. **
Nilofer’s pictures taken in France where the minister was paragliding reportedly triggered the fatwa row on Tuesday. In one of the pictures she is seen hugging her paragliding instructor. This had incensed the clerics at the Masjid who described ‘it’ an obscene gesture and demanded her resignation.
Bakhtiar fought back and she condemned the fatwa while dismissing all the allegations against her. She said she had no faith in such self-made courts.
The retraction reportedly came after senior politician Shujaat Hussain intervened. There were even hints from General Musharraf that force could be used to stop the Masjid’s highly publicised Islamisation activities.
The Pak Supreme Court is now hearing a petition against the Masjid’s courts and its private army. But at the end of it speculation that the entire controversy may have been triggered off by none other than Gen Musharraf himself to douse an earlier controversy—his suspension of Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhary and to redeem himself in American eyes as the only check against Taliban forces in Pakistan.
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Chalo fayr khaali niyyat ii ker lya karo............namaz paran di ki lore.
Nahin bhen ji ayho jayi gal nai aye. You got me wrong, without action intentions are meaningless or rather right intentions are required for the completion of action. Thats a christian concept that bad intentions are equal to bad deeds itself, in Islam if you only had the niyat but havenot commited the sin, you are OK.
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There are lot people that we don't meet for wrong intentions but 1- Did our prophet (p.b.u.h.) hug any na mahram 2-Isn't this clear that shaitaan is every where and all these precautions are just to prevent us from shaitan 3-jis tarah ALLAH tala ka qanoon hia us ko usi tarah rehney dena chahiye agar ALLAH ne mana kiya hai to us mein koii maslehat hai 4-Nilofar ke hug kerne se hamara khuch nahi jata ,naa hi us instructor ka khuch hoa but baat asool ki hai agar islam ne mana kiya hia to is ke agey koii question nahi ke kiyoon kiya hia ,kis liye kiya hai .
I asked what are the reasons people hug each other and you are giving me the reasons why people should not hug each other. Let me rephrase in what cases people are allowed to hug each other?
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Nahin bhen ji ayho jayi gal nai aye. You got me wrong, without action intentions are meaningless or rather right intentions are required for the completion of action. Thats a christian concept that bad intentions are equal to bad deeds itself, in Islam if you only had the niyat but havenot commited the sin, you are OK.
Yes, i agree.
we'll be held accountable for our actions and not for niyyahs.
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I asked what are the reasons people hug each other and you are giving me the reasons why people should not hug each other. Let me rephrase in what cases people are allowed to hug each other?
Muslim women(who don't have any mental conditions) aren't allowed to hug namahrams in any case.
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Muslim women(who don't have any mental conditions) aren't allowed to hug namahrams in any case.
Is it possible that this woman had adrenaline rush after para gliding and could not think straight at that time kinda like temporary insanity. It does happen to human beings after going through some dangerous activity.