Just pointing the facts me love! ;)
*Tribal culture mixed with Islamism has really hurt us. FATA is the worse. *
however there are plenty of examples of petty tribalism from even the big cities.
*Look at the shenanigans of Altaf and co. *
Karachi could have been the queen of Asia if not for the goons peddling Muhajiristan.
*Punjab is 80+ million agri and industry hub, and yet it produces pathetic level of collective DECLARED wealth/money/funds. Just Punjab alone should be able to produce and generate funds compared to France that has similar population but luckily they are without the Islamism and tribalism. *
The difference is clear.
We won't progress unless we all shed the yoke of ancient stone age mentality.
The mentality that is shown by this E$tupeed delegation from FATA and being supported by so many so-called educated but mentally tribal people around Pakistan.
*But many posters will never get this. Their heads are buried deep in the muck of ethno-fascism coupled with islamism. *
Their brains are now closed, the eyes are shut, and the ears are deaf to the new ideas.
Anyone moaning and groaning about the labels like tribal should look at two things.
- FATA -- Means federally administered TRIBAL area aka stone age cesspool
*2. FCR - frontier crime regulations specific to TRIBAL areas aka lawless hell hole. *
Instead of shooting the messenger, the so-called defenders of tribals should go and fight to rid the two stone age, primitive chimpi systems aka FATA and FCR.
*Do something positive for a change instead of harping on and supporting the hellish laws and customs and system. *
It takes mental clarity and courage to call a spade! Spade! If Karachites can call Altaf a petty goon, why you all are defending the goons of FATA?
Thank you.
- See you dont understand the flip side and a probably more realistic view of whose hurt who. The reality is that tribal culture has actually been a victim of civilised people sat making decisions in Washington, Islamabad, Pindi in their nice looking suits and shiny boots. It was these people who promoted Jihadism, destroying the tribal culture which MOST PAKISTANIS actually compliment . The people from this region have sacrificed A LOT for Pakistan and Pakistan's interests. iIt is about time people like you living abroad or in your pricey residential areas accepted that without the tribal sacrifices we might not be where we are today. I dont see half of Lahore being evacuated and forced to live in camps just because some attackers came from lahore and who have obviously hidden weapos around different parts of the city.
It is about time fortunate Pakistanis like yourself stop dogging the poor and downtrodden just because they dont take the same path as you do. It is easy to blame the victims.
So Altaf is a tribal too now? LOL!
Punjab is without tribalism but the biradari system and the caste system is very entrenched. I dont think "Nayees", "Mirasis" and many Christians ever make it past certain occupations.
You also to visit southern Punjab and experience the feudal culture and practises within that region.We need to shed the stone age mentality but we wont get any further by adopting an American boot lickig mentality.
yes that ethno-facism is called Pakistani patriotism! Its based on the belief that Pakistan is a sovereign nation and its citizens demand RESPECT wherever they travel. I have come across Pakistanis from all corners who support the stance taken by the FATA delegates. **We have watched too many of our leaders humliated internationally but now sigh a deep breath of relief that there are Pakistanis who stand up and when they visit other countries they dont just herd into them as sheep and objects **BUT AS EQUALS WHO DECIDED FOR THEMSELVES IF THE INVITATION IS WORTH IT! There are people in Pakistan who when they visit other countries they dont lower themselves.
Should the FCR be applied in Pindi where the most prominent (lover her or hate her) politician from the last 30 years was brutally murdered and the crime scene wiped clean? If that can happen to such a person as BB then it must mean its a lawless hell hole for sure?
- These goons of FATA are a delegation and they have not been involved in any crime as we know it. You comapre them to Altaf - a cowardly politician who runs a political party which has murdered many Pakistanis innocently, looted, raped and rigged elections systematically yet he he wholeheartedly supported and shown a blind eye by our "civilised" friends the UK/USA.
- These goons of FATA are a delegation and they have not been involved in any crime as we know it. You comapre them to Altaf - a cowardly politician who runs a political party which has murdered many Pakistanis innocently, looted, raped and rigged elections systematically yet he he wholeheartedly supported and shown a blind eye by our "civilised" friends the UK/USA.
I dont think you know what Pakistani Pride is and you sadly have the views of a minority in this issue. This delegation showed that when we visit your country we have terms and conditions too?
*BURQAPOSX - IS IT REALLY THAT GREAT A FEELING LICKING THE AMERICAN BOOTS AND BE REMINDED HOW OUR LEADERS ARE INFERIOR AND WORTHLESS IN EVERY PUBLIC MEETING? *
*The Americans have laws and regulations when people visit their country and if going naked through body scanners is one of them - FAIR ENOUGH. However, we are free to do what we want providing we dont hurt people and free to decline to be checked buy body scanners or whatever. *