End of the past?

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regional jahilyat is spread from Karachi to Khyber, while were busy enjoying Veer Zara. :D

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So why the coward Porus accepted the offer to be invader's ally and agreed to hand over land and power to him once his head was spared in that epic surrender? The fact Alexander spared a captured King says far more about Alexander than Porus.

Alexander was quite literally just interested in conquering the land, hoisting the Greek flag and moving on to his next target destination. He was not there to harbour any unnecessary animosities and feed rivalries as long aa he officially won or people surrendered to him. His aim was to not completely colonise the areas he invaded to establish any systems and spread the pearls of Greek civilisation.

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Because due all this selective approach while teaching history, Iqbal is one of the major causality. If you just limit your study of Iqbal to the extent of text books, you can’t appreciate his variety of thoughts, which can equally accommodate all school of thoughts including fascist liberals :wink:

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I know what you meant, only a few posts back you were likening me to nazi. Thank goodness wrist slitter hasnt turned up in this thread so far. Muslim invaders turned up in 712 AD and in Punjab/KPK (1000 AD), why glorify only the Muslim ones only and not the ones who existed 2500 years ago (like Alexander and Darius). We are producing Nazis as a result of the current history since we are teaching kids to hate people on the base of religion. I know that you havent got your basic education in Pakistan. I and many others have had a pleasure to study in the country where we were taught that Hindus are tiny and weak, they live in squalid conditions (entirely opposite in Western countries) and other similar generalizations. While teaching us these things why did they forget that the country has a tiny Hindu minority. Why do we have inferiority complex that we cant acknowledge our past? The education system is converting people into zombies, the hatred that we see these days in people due to sects and religious differences hasnt popped out of a vacuum.

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Ok had to google veer Zara and if you are talking about the same movie that popped up then :naraz: you might have lost some respect points lol jk

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Mate, all people are not Arabs. Do you by any chance know that Jatts (Scythians) and Rajputs are Central Asians. They migrated to South Asia 2000 years ago, are we disrespecting them by not acknowledging their history?

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Good on you, I have studied till University level in Pakistan.

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I thought aqua said so for the writer of the column.

English ki tuition leni paRe gi boss :D

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In the text books, Iqbals Shikwa and BuDhay Baloch key Naseehat is what i can re-call, and both does point out fingers of our fall as a nation… but you are right, my father explained to me Shikwa in other way and my teacher in other way. My teacher was more focused on

“RahmataiN teri Aghyaar kay ka’shanooN per
baqr girti hay tu becharay muslmaoN per”

Qahar tau yeh hai ke kafir ko milen hoor-o-qasoor,
. Aur bechaare Musalmaan ko faqt waada-e-hoor

per they conveniently forget to answer it by Iqbal

Adal Hai Fatir-e-Hasti Ka Azal Se Dastoor
Muslim Aaeen Huwa Kafir Tau Mile Hoor-o-Qasoor

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TS ko do number engraizi aati hey iss thread ka reply to kia nahin abhi tuk :cobra:

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/culture-literature-and-linguistics/650690-lout-kay-budho-ghar-ko-aay.html

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this turned into a blood bath :/

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Come join in the mayhem. :chai:

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naya Pakistan ban raha hay aor kia :cobra:

yeh sabit ho gia hay keh madarsa ho ya angraizi boarding bachay har jagah k shaitan ho giay hain :sunnyboy:

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Nah, I’ll just watch and drink that chai of yours :chai:

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pas to sabit huwa, sirf TS hi tamasbeen nahin :cb:

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History should be taught without any personal opinions about a figure or an event. Unfortunately, this is not the case among many education systems in the world. The West is somewhat better but still has some major flaws when it comes to this subject. The agenda of modern schooling is the same throughout the world, that is, dumbing down of the masses. If you're lucky enough, you'll find out the truth once you're out of school.

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Aur MQ tamaasha gar (karnay vaala).

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dont worry if sikh or hindu heroes are not included in our history textbook. Your schools are already modernizing and making progress.
Roshan Khayali

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It should be just an academic study of all events, characters, civilizations that were and are part of the region we call our country.

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aap ne darya ko kooze main band kar dia. well concluded.