Eid Milad un Nabi Festivities

[muqawwee123]

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@Ali_Syed

These seh rozas and chillas are also biddah’s, saalana ijtimahs, the way taraweeh are done are also biddah…its a pandorra’s box…

meeta meetha hup hup, karwa karwa thoo thoo

Follow history of Ghilaf e Kaba . It will turn out to be bidda, the way its done now. No need to go far away, extension of Masjid e Nabavi and Masjid e Haram will also fall in this trap of Biddat

[WendyDarling]

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We don’t celebrate it

[mahool]

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@muqawwee123

Follow history of Ghilaf e Kaba . It will turn out to be bidda, the way its done now. No need to go far away, extension of Masjid e Nabavi and Masjid e Haram will also fall in this trap of Biddat

Good point… I always thought about it… No hadith, no reference…

[Ali_Syed]

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We can go as far as saying that following Imam’s (four imams) is also a biddah…we already have Quran and Sunnah with us…

[marwati]

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@muqawwee123

The kaaba o qibla of these bidat chanting people (KSA) is the biggest bidati in the world. Skyscrapers around kaaba is not bidaat, but graves of Prophet’s family is bidat. Celebrating Eid Milad u nabi is bidat, but doing aatish bazi on Independence day is not a biddat. Big portraits of Saudi family in Saudi airports, running a kingdom in the land where Prophet lived simple life (though he could live a life like a king) is not biddat. Hypocrisy thy name is Biddat

Its simple , you do not worship hazart mohammad p.b.u.h, you only follow his teachings…

[Ali_Syed]

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@muqawwee123

Follow history of Ghilaf e Kaba . It will turn out to be bidda, the way its done now. No need to go far away, extension of Masjid e Nabavi and Masjid e Haram will also fall in this trap of Biddat

I agree…you will see even those doing biddats who shout against it the loudest…anyways what ever rock’s their boats…

[marwati]

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@Ali_Syed

These seh rozas and chillas are also biddah’s, saalana ijtimahs, the way taraweeh are prayed is also biddah…its a pandorra’s box…

meeta meetha hup hup, karwa karwa thoo thoo

I have been to ijtimas, few seh-rozas and an ashraa…and i have to agree with you that it is indeed an innovation in islam.

Same is case with taraweeh, people have made it a compulsory ba-jumaat nimaaz…the thing about which holy prophet p.b.u.h was concerned that muslims would assume taraweeh farz on itself.

[muqawwee123]

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@marwati

Its simple , you do not worship hazart mohammad p.b.u.h, you only follow his teachings…

Just giving importance to the day, when this world was blessed with the biggest favour of Allah, is not worshiping the Prophet and everyone who celebrate the day knows that Muhammad was only Prophet of Allah and his status was not of that a God. Agree?

So those who don’t celebrate Milad automatically become followers of Prophet and thekedars of Islam?

[Ali_Syed]

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@marwati

I have been to ijtimas, few seh-rozas and an ashraa…and i have to agree with you that it is indeed an innovation in islam.

Same is case with taraweeh, people have made it a compulsory ba-jumaat nimaaz…the thing about which holy prophet p.b.u.h was concerned that muslims would assume taraweeh farz on itself.

all these are innovations, taraweeh is not farz (our people have made it as such), I have been to Raiwind Ijtemah as well which is a yearly congregation. Each and every sect has added some things in the religion. Wahhabis believe that following the Imams is also a biddat, but then they also follow Imam Hanbal and some other people. If we literally take take the Hadith that innovation is not allowed in the religion, then even these things fall in that category. I personally believe there should be debates between different sects, the hatred that has evolved during the past few decades have pushed people poles apart. Solution/middle ground or understanding other people would come through debates, and not by shunning others by declaring them biddatis or mushriqs.

[Ethan_Hunt]

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Thanks kattichic. We’ve decided to go only becaue the family that invited us are our dearest friends. Let’s see what happens there.

[marwati]

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@muqawwee123

Just giving importance to the day, when this world was blessed with the biggest favour of Allah, is not worshiping the Prophet and everyone who celebrate the day knows that Muhammad was only Prophet of Allah and his status was not of that a God. Agree?

So those who don’t celebrate Milad automatically become followers of Prophet and thekedars of Islam?

Do you consider holy prophet p.b.u.h as noor or bashar?

Andaaza hogaya hey key mera ishara kis janib taa?

[muqawwee123]

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@marwati

Do you consider holy prophet p.b.u.h as noor or bashar?

Andaaza hogaya hey key mera ishara kis janib taa?

I consider him best Basha (khair ul Bashar).. There is no parallel to him in human-beings.

[Ali_Syed]

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In the golden period Muslims used to do an ijtehad to find out solutions to complex matters. We have even closed that door now, as any solution based upon ijtehad would be declared a biddah…

[mahool]

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[Reha]

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I don’t consider it bid’ah and for those who do…its ridiculous that you think so. No one is changing Islam, issuing fatwas, mandating milads, creating their own masjid, etc.

In our family, we don’t celebrate it as much.

We do get invited a lot as my mom reads naat.

A few people get together, read naat, read ahadees, learn more about their faith, connect with Allah swt and walk away just a bit more conscious of their actions…and this is bid’ah? An evil innovation?

Burai pe pabandi samaj mein aati hai…lekin yahan to achai pe bhi pabandi hai. Shabbash.

Islam seems so attractive when viewed through the eyes of people who’s hearts have been hardened…

[TLK]

@philosophy:9889292

where are our cultural holidays [xmas and thanksgiving] loving guppies and guppans

no case for this? no essays and explanations here

Here I am.

Ok so just like xmas that we don’t celebrate, but don’t mind some association (attending office Christmas party, for example), we also don’t celebrate eid miladun nabi, but back home when we were invited for koonday, oh yes I was there always. Yum.

And also it’s not fair to compare festivities of eid miladun nabi with that of Christmas. Desis don’t take part in the festivities of Christmas with the intention of getting sawab. Desis do celebrate eid miladun nabi with the intention of ajar. That is why the latter is considered biddah by some.

[muqawwee123]

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@TLK

Here I am.

Ok so just like xmas that we don’t celebrate, but don’t mind some association (attending office Christmas party, for example), we also don’t celebrate eid miladun nabi, but back home when we were invited for koonday, oh yes I was there always. Yum.

And also it’s not fair to compare festivities of eid miladun nabi with that of Christmas. Desis don’t take part in the festivities of Christmas with the intention of getting sawab. Desis do celebrate eid miladun nabi with the intention of ajar. That is why the latter is considered biddah by some.

Everyone knows (who celebrate Milad or not) that Ajar is not for decorating your homes, ajar is more for sending darood o salaam and say providing food to poor. If a day is celebrated when people do excess darood o salam during Mehfil e Milad, share food with poor,etc , how does it got tagged with bidah? Aren’t these acts covered under good deeds as per Quran (Surah e Ahzab for Darood o salam, Surah Ma’oon for feeding poor)

People may say that why not do it on daily basis (sending darood and sharing food)? That got an answer as well. Its human psyche that they follow the environment. What is being observed by group, can’t be followed individually in same zeal. People do ihtimam for fasting during Ramadan, but many people who couldn’t fast during Ramadan for some reasons find it difficult to complete missing fasts in other days as there is no environment like Ramadan. Same is the case with festivity and ihtimam during Rabi ul awwal.

[Captain_Obvious]

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No.

[TLK]

@muqawwee123:9890064

If a day is celebrated when people do excess darood o salam during Mehfil e Milad, share food with poor,etc , how does it got tagged with bidah? Aren’t these acts covered under good deeds as per Quran (Surah e Ahzab for Darood o salam, Surah Ma’oon for feeding poor)

Ok I am only going to tell you the reason why some consider it a biddah, so don’t kill me.

1. There is no prove of sending salaam on prophet from hundred of miles away, unless you are standing at his roza. Some uelma call it a fabricated practice, hence biddah.
2. Prophet in his life time disliked the fact of sahaba standing for him when he entered the mosque. When salaam and durood is sent on prophet in mehfil e milad, people do it while standing. How can you pay respect to someone by doing exactly what he asked you not to do?
3. Unfortunately, the durood that is recited in mehfil e milad is not the durood that prophet taught us. It was fabricated later on. So somehow the durood told us by prophet is not good enough for us to send to him, so we had to invent our own?

These are some of the concerns that ulema have about ritual of milad.

[mirage]

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@marwati

The question you should be asking whether sahaba celebrated birthady festival of hazrat Mohammad p.b.u.h or not?

honestly, and may Allah forgive me if I cross the limits of reverence for sahaba karam here, may Allah be pleased with them, this argument given by those who.dont believe in melad about whether and if sahaba karam celebrated it or not rather irritates me. Common sense tells me: sahaba karam were the beloved prophet sal Allah o aleh wassalam’s contemporaries. They were the mobile pictures of the prophet sal Alah o aleh wassalam’s teachings, most blessed with his companionship, people who lived, dined, travelled, spent time with him. I dont see any reason if they were realy mindful of celebrating wiladat when they had much other on.their minds i.e. Bereavement (we know how hazrat umer reacted to the news of the prophet sal Allah o aleh wasalam’s wisaal. He wasnt ready to hear and.believe it had happened, and took.out his sword) and then after the prophet sal Allah o aleh wassalam’s wisaal, the job of establishment of Islam, consolidation of Islamic empire, spread of.Islam.and all. Im not even counting.here the inside refutes and crimishes. At that time jashn e wiladat may not.be the need of.the age but.now.it.is. What hurts if we can get together, say naats for him and praise him?

AND AND AND what really validates if sahaba karam.didnt celebrate wiladat so shouldnt we??? If anything, its shareeyat e Mohammadi the sahaba karam.and all.of.us.muslims are supposed to follow. Now, the beloved prophet sal Allah o aleh wasalam liked and appreciated naats recited for.him, we know accounts where we are told how he adorned a person.with his chadar e mubarak who said naat for.him and how.he made someone.sit.higher who.said naat for him. And those who.have problem with melad, what do.we do.in.melad.really? Do we put pictures and idolise? Do we do anything.voilate the shareeya? Except for.saying.naats. Why should a believer and a lover of the beloved prophet have a problem with naat? But some.have.

It saddens me.really that we are so short of matters of dispute that we had to bring up.the contention whether we should praise our beloved prophet or not, we should.celebrate his coming into the world or not. Him being the rehmat al lil Alameen, being.the.most beloved of Allah subhan wa taala Himself.

Painful and sad.