How can we Indian’s talk about progress & economic growth, when such acts of horror are taking place in India today. These are symptoms of a sick society.
What should we do to stop this practice. Whip, jail, educate, what???
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all, some arwe short term some are longer term solutions. similar issues are present in pak as well.
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Chief, Dowry is part of the culture. Indian culture, like any other culture has good and bad aspects. You can’t say that respecting ones elders, obtaining education must preserved while dowry should go away. They are all components of a culture.
My family comes from Western part of Pakistan, we have a different culture than India/majority of Pakistan and we are mocked for its “outdated” concepts. Yet I embrace it all because it is a part of my identity.
Culture, religion and nationality are important codifiers of community - you may not agree with it all but they give you an identity.
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Stop living in the past pak-one. When you see something messed up happening, you have an obligation to fix it. Just because an evil exists in your culture doesnt mean you have to accept it and live with it. You can eliminate that negative elements of your culture and preserve the better aspects.
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Stop living in the past pak-one. When you see something messed up happening, you have an obligation to fix it. Just because an evil exists in your culture doesnt mean you have to accept it and live with it.
hear hear!!!
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The article said that the crimes mostly go unpunished. So punishing them would be a good start. Another thing to get started would be the rejection of proposals where the groom’s family ask for dowry.
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Stop living in the past pak-one. When you see something messed up happening, you have an obligation to fix it. Just because an evil exists in your culture doesnt mean you have to accept it and live with it. You can eliminate that negative elements of your culture and preserve the better aspects.
Cultures may be evolving but people do not "eliminate negative elements of their culture and preserve the better aspects" just because of a law, or some holier than thou commentary. If I am wrong, then prove it?
Look at Pakistan: You have people still proudly announcing their "caste" while being Muslim in name, yet Indian culturally. While their counterparts reject Pakistan's heritage and have adopted extremist Islamic tendencies which involve violence against fellow Muslims. You cannot just praise the "moderate-sufi" Islam of Pakistanis belonging to the "castes' without accepting the fact that culturally they are more Indian influenced. Similarly you can't uphold the piety and discipline of an extremist Muslim Pakistani and reject their violent tendencies.
I am living in reality. There is no such thing as a perfect culture. Sure cultures may react to modernity, but they will always carry over negative aspects. You have got to be under some sad illusion to believe that saying dowry is bad on some random message board will influence or change a culture that is being followed by millions if not billions.
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This is a shame for both the countries...its disgraceful how some families use their sons just to get goods and money. Aren't they in a way acting as pimps and selling their sons.
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i think it is somewhere in italy, where guy suppose to give dowry. over there gals side brings the rishta 
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all, some arwe short term some are longer term solutions. similar issues are present in pak as well.
Oh its definitely there in pakistan, but i won't say it's as bad as in the article above.. how often do u hear of bride burnings in Pakistan?
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I am utterly ashamed of this. What progress, what growth we are always talking about. These girls could be our daughters / sisters.
This is a national disgrace.
Hang them - as a lesson to others!!!
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This is a shame for both the countries...its disgraceful how some families use their sons just to get goods and money. Aren't they in a way acting as pimps and selling their sons.
You're right I feel the same way. They are selling their sons. A girl I know has a friend in India and her family had to pay for the groom's medical education and buy a house for the future couple as dowry but the groom's side calls it a "gift".
but I wonder if this is still the case now when the number of girls has drastically gone down and the men are desperately trying to find girls to marry. I'm sure this has gotten the dowry system idea to disappear somewhat right?
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I would think India has more than the one disgrace. 
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Anil - for once I agree with you.
I am sick of these dowry murders (bride burning)
I am sick of the religious bigotry.
I am sick of the extremes in poverty & extravegant lifestyles of the rich.
I am sick of the corruption & greed in our society.
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i heard of a case recently where a loser guy got married to a girl and his family took dowry from hers… when he came to the US abt 5 yrs ago and started having an affair here, he asked his wife for a divorce. she promptly filed a dowry case against him :k:
her in laws got some jail time and public bisti, and the jerk has not been able to go back to india for abt 4 years now… the minute he shows his face back home the police can throw him in jail. i just wish there was more that could be done to teach him and his parents a lesson… coz the girl’s life is forever ruined. i guess it’s her family’s fault too to some extent for entertaining their demands… it’s too bad some ppl continue to perpetuate sick customs in the name of “culture”.
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Dowry system have some good things but people totally misused it
tell me one thing are you ready to give your daughter share in your property after marriage, no body does that, every one want to keep for their sons
so they introduce it in olden days so that the girl also gets some share
i belong to a caste where a middle class person give about 40-50 lakhs INR in dowry
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Dowry system have some good things but people totally misused it tell me one thing are you ready to give your daughter share in your property after marriage, no body does that, every one want to keep for their sons so they introduce it in olden days so that the girl also gets some share
i belong to a caste where a middle class person give about 40-50 lakhs INR in dowry
as far as i know indian law makes it cumpulsary for equal shre in property for girls unless a will is made byy the parents.BTW its the prestige issue in AP(mostly in reddys in rayalseema and the chowdhary's of west godavari district) to lavishly shower dowry.
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Chief, Dowry is part of the culture. Indian culture, like any other culture has good and bad aspects. You can't say that respecting ones elders, obtaining education must preserved while dowry should go away. They are all components of a culture.
My family comes from Western part of Pakistan, we have a different culture than India/majority of Pakistan and we are mocked for its "outdated" concepts. Yet I embrace it all because it is a part of my identity.
Culture, religion and nationality are important codifiers of community - you may not agree with it all but they give you an identity.
I can't believe I'm reading this BS.
Cultures need to change and evolve.
Negative elements of any culture need to be eliminated.
Maybe we can't eradicate them by posting messages on a BB but it's our respobsility to not condone them and at least recognise them as wrong and condemn them.
I hate backward people who will stubbornly stick to their outdated ways despite knowing they are fcuked up, every society changes with time and we need to as well... There is nothing shameful about giving up bad things, I've never understood that mentality of some jaahil people..
If something shameful is part of our identity then it needs to go, if we can't eradicate it atleast we can oppose it... Just because something has been a part of our culture for so long doesn't mean we have to be proud of it.
I've met people who are like a bunch of donkeys, stubbornly stuck tot heir outdated and uncivilised ways because "it's their identity and culture", then they have the cheek to blame other ethnciities for their backwardness.
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as far as i know indian law makes it cumpulsary for equal shre in property for girls unless a will is made byy the parents.BTW its the prestige issue in AP(mostly in reddys in rayalseema and the chowdhary's of west godavari district) to lavishly shower dowry.
hmm... i'm a Reddy from Rayalaseema,
There are laws for anti dowry and eaqual share of property, do anyone care about it?? even the police or lawyers take dowry who knows law very well
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u would support it coz u get 50 ls in dowry. As per Hindu civil law girls have equal share in fathers property. In kerala hindus and muslims give equal share in property, while christians(mostly catholics) give dowry and do not share the property.