I’m quoting myself because I didn’t know my phone’s auto correct and I had a different opinion. Well played android well played but I was saying I wouldn’t call the haraam police on them because everyone has their own version of halal, Zabihah and I know people who eat chicken outside after doing their research and following fatwas.
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Oh Moodie, Moodie, Moodie 
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There’s no haram police to call, but for instance I would avoid eating meat if they were to serve it at a dawat or something, and would explain why.
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^ That brings me to my next question…when you are at the home of another Muslim and are served, say chicken wings or a hamburger…some people say you don’t question the origin of the meat another Muslim serves in their home, that the onus is on them, others I’ve seen will flat out ask exactly where the meat came from…what are everyone’s thoughts on this?
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Well, in this case I’d ask them point blank where they get their meat from. Or if I know they shop at questionable (by me) places for their meat, then I’ll simply avoid it. I don’t know where this whole don’t question someone about the source of their meat comes from.
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It’s a point that raised at one of our monthly family potlucks at my local masjid. The argument was made by one of our Sunday School administrators that you go with a saaf niyaat and do not question what another Muslim is feeding you in their home. If the meal was not 100% zabiha, the gunnah would be on them, not you. I’ve also heard this argument raised in family discussions.
Again, not saying I agree with it, I’m just curious as to what the general consensus here on GS is about this.
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I understand that people have that way of thinking. What I’m questioning is how did they derive that as a rule. Another thing I can fully acknowledge is that the people want to feed you halal, they are not trying to fool you in eating haram. However, the reality is that though they don’t have bad intentions themselves, but may not know about the meat supply enough to know where somethings are being sold as halal when they’re not. The other thing is that I follow a more strict requirement to determine halal and haram when it comes to meat, and knowing the people, I can have a decent idea on where they stand in terms of their requirements for it.
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That’s exactly what our situation was. When my dad came here…there was nothing around. There was no Devon avenue. There were no halal butcher shops. They were bachelors, studying, limited incomes, so they all tried for a while to just eat fish and veggies but eventually they tired of it. He still has this weird habit from his college days of eating boiled chick peas straight out of the can with some chat masala as a snack. So yes, they tried.
They ate out. Whatever was available…usually fast food like White Castle or McDs and brought home meat that was kosher. No pork or alcohol of course.
Do they still eat it? No. They do not. By the time my parents married, there were a couple of options available so mom put a stop to it.
Hakuna - how can you say its HARAAM? Aren’t you taking too many liberties with your religion by creating fatwas on your own? Apko darr nahin lagta hai HARAAM ka lafz istimaal karte huwe bila vaja? Can you show us where its written as HARAAM? Also, please no desi Islam…the real stuff only.
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I eat only Zabiha at home and outside. At restaurants that don’t serve Zabiha, I eat fish and veggies. I try and ask if food is cooked in vegetable oil or fat sometimes, but for cheesecake I always ask if they have gelatin, if they do, I order a dessert that doesn’t. I tried to follow the hand slaughtered meat only doctrine for a while, but then gave it up and have machine slaughtered Zabiha as well as most halal restaurants and butchers here have machine slaughtered Zabiha and a nearby mosque has also said it’s ok to eat.
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Oh we went through this a few yrs ago. We assume our muslim friends all eat halal (zabiha in canadian american standards)… One day after yrs of eating at a certain friend’s home.. We start discussing where we buy our poultry and meats from. The host says quite matter of factly, “oh sometimes the grocery store and sometimes the butchers…whatever is closer… Its all halal anyways”
There were 5 other couples there and we all had our jaws on the floor.
Since we r all pretty tight and up front, we discussed the matter further. In the end, the host couple insisted they beleived that chicken, meat etc has been declared halal by god, so they go ahead and eat it. Name of god on slaughtering makes no diff.
To the rest of us, THAT’s what makes the actual protein halal…the fact that god’s name HAS been said when slaughtering.
We agreed to disagree. And they promised to only get protein from a muslim butcher or one with the halal logo on it if bought from grocery store, whenever they would invite us over.
That was very kind of them and all’s well that ends well.
Oh and we also kearned an imp lesson… Not everyone has the same understanding of the Quran. What makes sense to you may not to another muslim. So if it concerns you, like food, always wise to ask.
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^ I like that.
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Yes, Zabiha at home only.
No, I do not ever eat non Zabiha or something i consider doubtful at a restaurant.
I do not enforce MY beliefs on other family members and friends. My BIL often eats out from non zabiha places, and after much hassle I have very firmly requested that they do not feed the same thing to me or my family.
KC and I live in the same city. AH, we are blessed with many zabiha restaurants etc. I personally do not like to eat out as much, which is why I decided to learn how to make various non Desi foods.
My DH loves Subway, and I always request they change gloves, and if cutting the sub, to use a clean knife. It may be OCD for someone , but that is what I believe in.
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Its not OCD at all…they would do that for someone with food allergies if requested. They should be able to accommodate you as well.
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I do not question the source of meat at another persons house, but most of my acquaintances know my feelings on the subject, and will tell me in my ear 'Erm, you may not want to eat the chicken etc!".
If i am not comfortable eating at someones house, I do not eat. I have yet to go somewhere where there are no veggie/dall options available, and I would rather eat that. My children and DH do the same thing.
We were invited to a close friends house many years ago, and she very nonchalantly mentioned how all the meat was from the local Krogers. We were all flabbergasted, and since then we decided as a family we would be very conscious of what we would eat.
I do not enforce my belief on others, but do expect others to respect that. I do not feel it is hard on myself or my family. AH, we have more than enough food to eat.
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Same here. I won’t stop others from eating something they’re eating it but if I’m not comfortable with it myself, I won’t compromise on that.
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I eat only zabihah meat at home, and veggies & seafood when I dine out.
My extended family started immigrating to the USA in the 1950s, and I’ve been told they would butcher their own meat at slaughterhouses because there were no zabihah meat providers available at that time. Now with the desi population boom in my area you can find zabihah halal restaurants and grocers conveniently in your own neighborhood; no traveling is necessary.
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Halal meat is very easily available in my city so all Muslims in my circle do buy halal.
I was at my best friend’s house last week, she is Hindu- so her mother made biryani. I asked politely if the chicken is halal and she said she bought halal meat especially for me and I need not worry in her home about meat ever as it’ll always be halal. 
Honestly, if I even had a small tiny little doubt about the halal status of the meat at anyone’s home, Muslim or not, I’ll ask. It’s my farz to ask if the meat is halal. So even if the masjid Imam says that eat whatever ur host cooks, I disagree.
Oh btw I also know if people who buy non halal meet and say bismillah over it right before eating to apparently turn it halal or something … That’s a big no no for me. 
anyone knows someone else who does the same?
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plenty :d
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I would always ask even before going to their place that what are they buying. We are very much halal conscious. Even we eat meat hand slaughtered and our circle include such people who to stick to these same values. If i have to socialize with new people i simply ask their meat source and specially about chicken as more chicken is machine slaughtered. To those i have idea that they not be sticking to hand slaughter I simply say that I have a request not to make chicken as lamb and beef is not much problem regarding hand slaughter in Australia.
One has to ask because it is concerning my ibadas as 40 days ibadas are not accepted even if you eat without investigation. Hazrat Abu baker once eat a morsel of a food with enquiring from his ghulam about it and ghulam said u did not ask source and told it was from sadqa maal. the meat was hahal but sadqa was not applicable on him and he did vomit that morsel after a lot of effort. Even other sahabas said that u ate mistakenly why u did so effeort, he said even if i had died this morsel has to go out as i heard Rasoll Allah SAW saying that a part of body that is nouroshed by halal food would burn in hell fire. They were so pious and are our role models. i dont feel any shame asking someone about meat source as its my right, if i want to eat halal i just want it, if they are not eating its their choice but i wont be obviously gonna compromise on my term and conditions