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Oh man this is a gold mine…17/20
Can’t find such percentages here in US
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There were extenuating circumstances!!!
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I have given up on the Islamic Republic of Pakistan after my own personal experience and just hearing about the crap that goes on there all chup ke chup ke, can’t trust most people there..my friend sent me the link below laughing about it but it made me extremely sad that there are people like this, read some of the comments by the girls and guys, qayamat is near.. (I’m pakistani, was raised there so people from homeland no need to get nationalistic or defensive)..
It’s NSFW
Edit: deleted the URL didn’t realize there were inappropriate pictures on the facebook page..my apologies
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lol, of course it goes on, but there are a lot of respectable girls as well (if you know where to look). My family is massive, so as such, the network of family friends I have access to is also quite large. You are correct, as much as there respectable girls there are also miscreants. It’s almost like a lottery.
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oh yeah? you were so “beta” that the ‘dollybirds’ lured you in and the alcohol was just replaced with a glass of coke by your colleagues? :halo: 
lol okay, time to pick on someone else before he cries looks for diwana
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Something along those lines!!
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@pak2015 don’t worry you won’t get a hijabi wife. Why would someone want to marry a guy who says he doesn’t want his wife wearing hijab? Obviously has issues there. And the no hijab, no Quran etc conditions are a bit daft too. What if 5-10 years down the line your hijab-less wife becomes more religious? Spirituality isn’t constant. It goes up and down. When kids come along for some people it goes up. What are you going to do then? Your wife may decide she wants to raise her kids as steadfast Muslims will you deny her?
Or what if its the other way round? What if she doesn’t wear hijab but reads all 5 prayers on time and reads Qur’an everyday? Just because someone wears hijab or doesn’t that isn’t a measure of how strong their faith is.
Don’t think you’ve thought this through.
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^ I think he meant a girl who is a balance of deen & duniya. Not on extreme ends.
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Islam IS a balance of deen and duniya. Muslims only realise that at different points in their lives. What if his wife ten years into marriage decides her idea of a balance is not the right one? What if she realises that the balance Allah has prescribed is the balance she needs? Then what?
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Where do I sign?
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I get what you’re saying in that outward appearances don’t reveal everything about one’s inner state. However, the importance of it can’t be dismissed altogether. Your libaas does send out an impression about you to others. If it weren’t so, then there wouldn’t be a dress code in schools and the workplace and for various occasions (weddings/funerals/etc). And a violation of that code will make you stand out. If one wears a mini skirt to a job interview or attends a funeral as though they’re dressed for the beach, you can’t blame folks for making judgments in regards to how you perceive the occasion and yourself as well as your values (to an extent). We know the cliche saying, “Don’t judge a book by its cover,” however on the flip-side there’s also the saying that “Clothes make the man.” If they had no impact whatsoever you’d never people say that a certain style looks skanky or trashy or put-together or slovenly. And because your libaas sends messages about you, that’s also why it will both attract and repel certain types of people from you. Sometimes it can attract the wrong type of people. Consistent manner of dressing is more telling about a person, but unfortunately even one occasion alone can form a string impression.
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Keep in mind these “traditional professional” girls may not be traditional because of how they were raised. They may simply be that way because of their personality and you never know when one does a 180 on you and gets in all sorts of bad habits. /QUOTE]
It can be argued that girls who only follow certain rules because they were strictly enforced by their patents might be more likely to rebel when they live away from their parents…whereas …girls who have a traditional personality are like that because they naturally incline toward traditional values…it’s what they willingly choose to do…and not because they’re feeling pressured…and if she has been consistently traditional all her life…then there’s something to be said for consistency, no? It may not be so easy for her to do a 180 turn if she feels comfortable and happy with a certain lifestyle and chose to follow it for years.
I don’t think OP’s requirements are unreasonable. We tend to look for a partner who is similar to us in level of religiousness and values…and yes…values are reflected in apparel and how you conduct yourself in public (and private). To dismiss this is folly. I do, however, agree with Sehrysh in that the traditional girl is more likely to go unnoticed and they tend not to draw attention to themselves. I also agree with another member (sorry…don’t recall name)…who said that that it can’t be assumed that hijabi girl will not listen to music or won’t know how to have fun. That’s the first thought that came to my mind. It’s amazing the changes that can come in a couple with the passing of time. My cousin’s husband was lax with eating nom-halal foods…and now he eats only halal lol. We tend to say that “oh we can’t do this …and hell no…we won’t give up xyz”…but there’s so much merging and compromising that takes place k one might surprise themselves later on, lol. OP, such girls DO indeed exist…I know many of them…and they can be found the world over. As to who one ends up with in the end…shayad kismat ki baat hai.
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Lol majority of Muslim girls do not wear hijab..and some that do, are far from decent religious girls..why are you criticizing me for it lol..clearly majority of pakistani wives aren’t hijabis
Anyways nothing wrong with hijabis, I was talking about the more extreme forms of religious people, they won’t jibe well with me so if anything I’m doing good for such a girl by not marrying her and then later trying to change her..I don’t want to change anyone
And of course people change, religion is a very personal issue..if she wants to be religious I’ll happily support her as long as it doesn’t impact the dynamic of our marriage and relationship
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Agree.
And yes there are girls who keep a balance between deen and duniya.
I don’t wear tight clothes but I don’t wear XXL either…I know how to be stylish yet modest and I would have an issue with someone telling me how to dress.
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I don’t want to tell my future wife how to dress. Not trying to change anyone. Thats why Im looking for a girl who will already fit my tastes and mindset and values.
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Yes they do exist. You have to have an eye to recognize them since they willingly keep low profile.
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I guess a lot of guys and girls feel this way given the recent threads about desirable traits/attributes in partners. But I know that there are a lot of traditional, yet professional desi girls in the US. In fact I see them everyday at my university (my self included). And, I’m in the US. However, all of these girls think that modern thinking, professional, decent and yet traditional guys don’t exist.
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Also even in the US, most educated guys want young girls who are still in college or just graduated even if the guy is 29 or 30. So when a girl turns 25 and is single (because she was pursing a career), she is considered old for marriage by many. I don’t know when this mentality will go away from the desi community around the world.
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You may be right but still these types are rare…both girls and guys.
I guess they don’t move in same circles or if they do then one needs to have an eye for them because these wouldn’t be the loud showy types that usually grab attention.
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You said they’re not exposed to westernized life but isn’t dubai relatively westernized and very happening city? And with such a mixed culture from Arabs, Pakistanis, Indians, Whites, etc etc I would think the people there would be more liberal, no??
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Tbh, what exactly is your definition of liberal?