do traditional professional girls still exist?

[pak2015]

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@queer

its usually bad news when guys have such specific needs and requirements on what their wives should wear, behave like, etc. (and vice versa).

Why do you girls always jump to this conclusion? Its such a wrong mentality to have. Do you not have specific things or red flags you are looking for in a man? I like classy and decent girls. Subtlety in her apperance, make up, personality and/or how she carries herself..for me that is extremely attractive. And I’ve noticed traditional girls have perfected that better than the more liberal girls who tend to put themselves out there more. Just because I think subtlety is classy doesn’t mean I’m going to control or cage my wife lol.

I’m not trying to control or change anyone, to each his own, that’s why I’m looking for a girl that already suits my likes and hopefully I will suit hers as well.

I’m going to actively strive to be an amazing, loving and understanding husband and will treat my wife and her family very well.

[Deeba1234]

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^Not a grl you’ve replied to btw..

[Sehrysh]

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@pak2015

That’s true, I never even considered them. I guess I should be more open minded

This! Don’t assume too quickly about someone without getting to know them or about them.

Don’t assume that just because she wears hijab, she’s a stick in the mud and is going to start saying astaghfar and plugging her ears when she hears elevator music.
Don’t assume that wearing a t-shirt means, she’s a modern club-hopping, booze-drinking girl, who is out of control.
Don’t assume that because she’s quiet, that she’s boring.

The best way to get to know someone is generally in a larger circle if possible when you get to observe them. There’s no “OMG, this is a first date/rishta-meeting” pressure and hopefully everyone, guy and girl act naturally around each other.

If that’s not possible and it has to be a one-on-one date/meeting - it shouldn’t be an awkward set-up. Do something fun and possibly interactive, as opposed to a candlelight dinner. Maybe like mini-put or something like that. It takes the pressure off by making it casual and the plus side is, mini-put should be an hour or less of your life.

[queer]

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well the thing is, like you say yourself, you dont hang around girls much. so where do these highly specific preferences come from? classy and decent is not the same thing as the tight definitions you laid out earlier.

[pak2015]

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@Deeba1234

^Not a grl you’ve replied to btw..

Well he sounded like a girl…

[akaprincess]

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I’m a professional, modern yet traditional girl

[pak2015]

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@Sehrysh

This! Don’t assume too quickly about someone without getting to know them or about them.

Don’t assume that just because she wears hijab, she’s a stick in the mud and is going to start saying astaghfar and plugging her ears when she hears elevator music.
Don’t assume that wearing a t-shirt means, she’s a modern club-hopping, booze-drinking girl, who is out of control.
Don’t assume that because she’s quiet, that she’s boring.

The best way to get to know someone is generally in a larger circle if possible when you get to observe them. There’s no “OMG, this is a first date/rishta-meeting” pressure and hopefully everyone, guy and girl act naturally around each other.

If that’s not possible and it has to be a one-on-one date/meeting - it shouldn’t be an awkward set-up. Do something fun and possibly interactive, as opposed to a candlelight dinner. Maybe like mini-put or something like that. It takes the pressure off by making it casual and the plus side is, mini-put should be an hour or less of your life.

Awesome advice..esp about getting to know someone in a larger circle

[queer]

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@Deeba1234

^Not a grl you’ve replied to btw..

girl here. perhaps you have me confused with another guppie from the nars eyeshadow thread. common mistake.

[VintageSpring]

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omg yes they exist. I know many girls like this who want the same thing in a guy.

[pak2015]

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@queer

well the thing is, like you say yourself, you dont hang around girls much. so where do these highly specific preferences come from? classy and decent is not the same thing as the tight definitions you laid out earlier.

I had past romantic relationships with pak girls here in US..all were modern and outgoing extroverted girls who prioritized fun and socializing..while I’m the more studious private type of guy, I’m friendly and romantic and know how to have fun but am a bit more selective and like to reserve that side for the right type of girl..I like exclusivity..makes it more special and meaningful for me..I know I’m a different type of guy myself..maybe am too picky

Because they’re extroverted and outgoing they usually approach me first..they usually end up conveying their interest in me likely because of my looks and qualifications..Im an idiot and usually fall for their looks while initially ignoring the major differences in personality but I’ve learned my lesson now and realized I don’t want to marry such girls hence this thread

The clothes thing was just one aspect..for me a girl who seeks attention whether it’s by wearing revealing or tight clothes is not subtle..absolutely nothing wrong with dressing up even if not subtle for a wedding or a function..I’m talking about every day clothes to school or work..I like subtlety in a girl, it’s very classy

The girls who try too hard to get noticed in public (whether it’s by attention seeking behavior, or talking to every guy, or wearing revealing clothes or wearing so much make up they look like a clown)–these things are a turn off for me. And liberal modern girls tend to do these things more than traditional girls.

[badabing]

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I think they do exist but they are becoming rarer by the day. Here in the UK, marriage is skewed in women’s favor, but prenups are now enforceable as long as they are fair (I actually spoke to one of London’s best international divorce lawyers about this yesterday - she works for a firm that effectively set the precedent for prenups).

The thing is, guys who won’t be abusive to their wives, expect them to be slaves to the kitchen or cleaning maids are fearful of marrying an entitled princess who will turn 180 25 years from now due to a MLC.

The girls you talk about, professional but traditional, are afraid of ending up in abusive relationships with mama’s boys who make them work, cook clean and take crap from sasu amma.

Now how do we pair up the modern thinking but traditional guys with professional yet traditional women? Let me know when you figure it, would love to know!

[pak2015]

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@badabing

I think they do exist but they are becoming rarer by the day. Here in the UK, marriage is skewed in women’s favor, but prenups are now enforceable as long as they are fair (I actually spoke to one of London’s best international divorce lawyers about this yesterday - she works for a firm that effectively set the precedent for prenups).

The thing is, guys who won’t be abusive to their wives, expect them to be slaves to the kitchen or cleaning maids are fearful of marrying an entitled princess who will turn 180 25 years from now due to a MLC.

The girls you talk about, professional but traditional, are afraid of ending up in abusive relationships with mama’s boys who make them work, cook clean and take crap from sasu amma.

Now how do we pair up the modern thinking but traditional guys with professional yet traditional women? Let me know when you figure it, would love to know!

Haha I get what you’re saying.

I actually don’t want to control anyone, I want her to be my best friend. I want to respect her and our relationship and I hope she will respect me and our relationship in return. I just want a girl who understands herself what appropriate boundaries are when in a relationship and knows how to adjust, self regulate and self reflect. I myself have a very self reflective personality and constantly try to improve myself. I’m a physician I have enough things to worry about, the last thing I want is to worry about my wife. I want confidence in my wife’s ability to act decent and classy. In my experience, traditional girls have perfected this better than the modern girls because they’ve been raised in a way that’s more geared towards maintaining a marriage as a team and doing for each other and that its okay to sometimes sacrifice and compromise for each other, rather than doing whatever interests them regardless of their partners likes or dislikes. And it should go both ways, husbands should also be willing to adjust. Modern girls eventually adjust also typically after marriage although after countless fighting lol..seen it so many times. I don’t have time or desire to teach anyone how to not act single anymore.

[AnnaKarenina]

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@Deeba1234

You can actually still find girls here in the UK who only wear shalwar khameez.. Because their families are socially conservative they often wouldn’t be allowed out much on their own and certainly not after dark.. I would keep it very distinct from religion tho as most religious girls I see are ok with western clothes, just with a hijab and maybe a long coat or top, rather than shalwar khameez and they often do have more freedom in terms of work, studying and marriage..

20-odd years ago it was very common for Pak girls here to only (or mainly) wear shalwar khameez and although now much fewer in number there are families who still expect or prefer it.. I remember as a kid being surprised at girls wearing shalwar khameez even as their school uniform in places like East London.. Those girls nearly always had arranged marriages at an early age and weren’t encouraged to go to uni or work.. Probably near impossible for an ‘outsider’ to end up married to one rather than someone their parents had chosen..

I don’t think those kind of girls end up going to university, and most certainly not for professional degrees.

[MustafaQuraishi]

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@pak2015 there are so many similar mentality girls here on GS, why don’t you start from there

[Pisiform]

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Mail order bride is your only solution

[AnnaKarenina]

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@pak2015

Haha I get what you’re saying.

I actually don’t want to control anyone, I want her to be my best friend. I want to respect her and our relationship and I hope she will respect me and our relationship in return. I just want a girl who understands herself what appropriate boundaries are when in a relationship and knows how to adjust, self regulate and self reflect. I myself have a very self reflective personality and constantly try to improve myself. I’m a physician I have enough things to worry about, the last thing I want is to worry about my wife. I want confidence in my wife’s ability to act decent and classy. In my experience, traditional girls have perfected this better than the modern girls because they’ve been raised in a way that’s more geared towards maintaining a marriage as a team rather than doing whatever interests them regardless of their partners likes or dislikes. Modern girls eventually adjust also typically after marriage although after countless fighting lol..seen it so many times. I don’t have time or desire to teach anyone how to not act single anymore.

You can’t really have preconceived notions and classify girls as modern and traditional and judge their personalities like that. There’s plenty of “traditional” girls with nakhre and attitude, and plenty of 'modern" girls who are down to earth and family oriented. It all depends on the individual. Just because a girl dresses more “modern” doesn’t make her a bad wife, and the converse for a traditional girl. Outward appearances don’t always reflect inner appearances and don’t predict their wife game. Wearing revealing or tight clothes doesn’t necessarily make you unclassy and an attention whore, just like a hijabi girl isn’t a God-send angel who sits on a janamaz.

[badabing]

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@pak2015

Haha I get what you’re saying.

I actually don’t want to control anyone, I want her to be my best friend. I want to respect her and our relationship and I hope she will respect me and our relationship in return. I just want a girl who understands herself what appropriate boundaries are when in a relationship and knows how to adjust, self regulate and self reflect. I myself have a very self reflective personality and constantly try to improve myself. I’m a physician I have enough things to worry about, the last thing I want is to worry about my wife. I want confidence in my wife’s ability to act decent and classy. In my experience, traditional girls have perfected this better than the modern girls because they’ve been raised in a way that’s more geared towards maintaining a marriage as a team and doing for each other and that its okay to sometimes sacrifice and compromise for each other, rather than doing whatever interests them regardless of their partners likes or dislikes. Modern girls eventually adjust also typically after marriage although after countless fighting lol..seen it so many times. I don’t have time or desire to teach anyone how to not act single anymore.

I agree with you but imo with purely traditional girls, you get a lot of star plus like drama. Food for thought!

Me personally, I might end up going back home to get a bride - what I get from a professional British Paki woman isn’t worth the additional risk of her walking into the sunset with 50% of my premarital assets + spousal support (child maintenance is a given either way) because some feminist beta judge woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided to throw the prenup out. Just saying!

[Sehrysh]

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@Pisiform

Mail order bride is your only solution

So before I get accused on hijacking a thread and taking it down a totally different tangent, something I noticed during my travels through Southeast Asia - the number of older white guys and the young Asian women with them. Sex-trade workers aside, that some men have a preference for a submissive wife and will travel long distances to find such a bride still happens. And these women, they trade their idea of an “ideal” partner for a practical provider.

Point being, even today, some men hoping to find a mate who meets their preferences for a submissive wife will seek some variation of a mail-order bride - whether it be the Thai or Cambodian wife, the Czech or Ukrainian wife, or for some (not all) Pakistani guys - the seedhi-saadhi, gharelu Pakistani born-and-bred wife.

[pak2015]

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@Sehrysh

So before I get accused on hijacking a thread and taking it down a totally different tangent, something I noticed during my travels through Southeast Asia - the number of older white guys and the young Asian women with them. Sex-trade workers aside, that some men have a preference for a submissive wife and will travel to long distances to find such a bride still happens. And these women, they trade their idea of an “ideal” partner for a practical provider.

Point being, even today, some men hoping to find a mate who meets their preferences for a submissive wife will seek some variation of a mail-order bride - whether it be the Thai or Cambodian wife, the Czech or Ukrainian wife, or for some (not all) Pakistani guys - the seedhi-saadhi, gharelu Pakistani born-and-bred wife.

Those are likely prostitutes haha or poor women who married the white guy with a beer belly thinking she will be able to live a better life in US/UK..there is the trend being picked up by Pakistani men in last decade or so of going to Thailand to have sex with Asian woman..a friend of mine her husband went to Thailand and refused to answer her phone while their..poor girl..and it happened to another girl as well..girls, don’t let your husbands/fiances/boyfriends go to Thailand

Haha not exactly the type of traditional woman I’m looking for..

[badabing]

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@Sehrysh

So before** I get accused on hijacking a thread and taking it down a totally different tangent**, something I noticed during my travels through Southeast Asia - the number of older white guys and the young Asian women with them. Sex-trade workers aside, that some men have a preference for a submissive wife and will travel long distances to find such a bride still happens. And these women, they trade their idea of an “ideal” partner for a practical provider.

Point being, even today, some men hoping to find a mate who meets their preferences for a submissive wife will seek some variation of a mail-order bride - whether it be the Thai or Cambodian wife, the Czech or Ukrainian wife, or for some (not all) Pakistani guys - the seedhi-saadhi, gharelu Pakistani born-and-bred wife.

Don’t be so absurd!