When you talk about child consent, you are confirming my position that consent is not always be considered as central and pivotal argument to say that act is right.
Sometimes it is, sometimes it is not. Not a universal requirement for right or wrong.
I gave you example of polygamy. Consenting adults marrying, but some societies consider it not only wrong but a crime.
animal doesnât give consent, hence rape and abuse. what part of this do you not understand?
do you understand the difference b/w consent and willingness? a child can be willing to do something, does that mean he gave consent? consent is only valid when the other party is informed and knows the consequences. adults can understand the consequences of sex, children cannot. that is why sex with a child is a crime, because a child cannot make that decision, even if they agree and neither can animals. therefore sex with animal is considered rape. i hope you can get this though.
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**again you have no clue what consent means even? please go read up informed consent and then come back.
cheating means lying to your spouse which is morally wrong, yet its not a criminal offense so i dont know what your point even is. cheating can hurt a person therefore people view it as morally wrong. why on earth would you compare cheating to homosexuality now? you make no sense here at all.
you said sex for pleasure only is wrong and with birth control, its only for pleasure of course. why do couples use birthcontrol rather than just abstaining? ofcourse the sex is to satisfy their desire, which is ONLY for pleasure.
So why bringing consent as argument for animals if they cannot consent?
You just keep repeating the same mistake here.
What part did you not get the consent is not always required to mak =e something right or wrong? Do you even read what is said to you or keep saying same thing again and again?
That is why I told you before a long time ago, you have no ability to engage in delicate discussions. Just wanted to prove it.
I know more about informed content than you would even know by the way.
Please go ahead and inform animals about being killed and then eat them next time. Please do make a video of that and post it.
There you go, now you came up with lying to spouse argument. ha ha!
What happened to âtwo consenting adultâ argument now??? Didnât think of that did you?
I never said birth control is not allowed. ** Admit that you were accusing me for something I never said.
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You made that point of birth control but I am all for birth control with some conditions. Obviously the birth control only applies between male and female, so it is fine for me to have male and female (husband and wife) be engaged in sexual activity.
What I said is that homosexuality and bestiality are purely out of sexual pleasure acts and hence wrong and it the act between two males or two females etc. etc. so the act is wrong in many many ways.
I did not approve anything related to homosexuality and acting out of lust ONLY, is what is wrong there.
It is a very difficult topic for you to handle anyhow. Sorry.
thats exactly what I said, its rape. youâre the one who thinks its not rape.
lol looks like you canât read so now youâre changing the subject. yes consent is needed to make something right, or else rape would be acceptable.
you clearly have no idea what informed consent is or else you would have never brought up such absurd argument.
please figure out the meanings and difference between consent, willingness, rape, abuse, and then post.
is cheating on your spouse the same as homosexuality?? did the spouse consent to her husband having sex with someone else?
why is okay for heterosexuals to have sex just for pleasure then? you said yourself pleasure shouldnât be the only factor. now even you cannot defend your terrible logic.
please explain why birthcontrol is okay when it lets couples have sex purely for pleasure
difficult for me to handle when youâre the one who cannot differentiate between rape and consensual sex? thats laughable.
And birthcontrol does make sex ONLY for pleasure, and if you disagree, youâre being blatantly dishonest which you have been anyway
I bet you do not even know what rape means.
Hint: Animals are not ârapedâ you can use word âabuseâ or mistreatment thoughâŚand bestiality is not always âabuseâ but certainly NOT rape.
And here you are giving me âlectureâ on informed consent. What a joke.
Anyhow, I am done with you. You have no arguments and resort to false accusations just to win arguments.
Bella if youre expecting diwana to yield or accept your points, im afraid you will be disappointed.
The dheetness that diwana exhibits is greater than that of the collective of every other human to ever walk the earth; past, present, and future.
Please ignore diwana like any sane person would ignore a homeless man yelling at traffic lights because they cant make their mind up and keep changing.
you are clearly confused between consent and willingness. please learn the difference.
this is what you say but then you try to derail other threads with the same nonsense over and over. argument is between people who can atleast understand the basic concept, which you have failed to do so far.. lets see which other thread you derail now and bring this topic again.
and like usual, you failed to answer my question regarding why birthcontrol is allowed when its making sex for pleasure only.
i agree with what youâre saying here
i had left this topic but diwana keeps bringing this up in other threads. so i simply told him to bring his argument back here instead of derailing other thread.
i donât care to change anyoneâs views, everyone is entitled to what they think. but equating homosexuality to crimes and rape is extremely homophobic and i just feel the need to stand up for it.
diwana why do you bring up posts from all different threads in one?? you bring homosexuality here ( this thread was talking about evolution), then you bring this topic in the cannibal thread and now you bring posts from anther thread on here about mathematics? what are you trying to prove?
if you cannot come up with sensible points in one thread, you bring it up later in another completely unrelated thread. its the most bizarre behavior i have seen.
Please read below the whole chain of thread how the discussion went in to homosexuality.
It was OP, who talked about that thread knowing you bring science for your defense, but have no clue of simple scientific evidence and biology. LEt alone genetics.
Then you continued on yourself in that discussion.
Common in both evolution and homosexuality is lack of scientific evidence but there are unfortunately people who believe there is something in scince which cam make both false ideas appear correct.
As I said earlier in this thread: This thread could go any direction since Op had a broad question.
As to other thread: You made comment on being omnivorous and said you ate animal/meat,.. but here said animals cannot consent. Hence I asked you question in that thread based on your statement here.
You kept avoiding the question âworryingâ about the thread being derailed.
