Imdad Bhai,
You said: “Majority of Mullahs are Punjabi or Pashtun speaking. Who are Fazlur-Rehman, Samiul Haq, and Qazi Hussien? All Pushtoons.”
Yeah they are Pashtuns, very true, but have you ever been to their speeches? Have you ever heard their kutbas? This is how it starts, Bismillah and then, Allah tala nay far maya ke Musalmanoo ko etc. etc. etc. Rasoolullah nay farmaya, ke Musalmanoo ko etc. etc. etc. Have you ever tried questioning one of these guys? Try questioning them about a Hadith, and if their answer to you is not in Urdu, I be something…but you see, their entire memory is fit with Urdu Hadeeths, translations of Koran in Urdu. Now, here is a website, for some reason the MMA website is down, but here is their website: http://www.mujlis-e-amal.com/
Now you will notice, of course, all the Pathan Mullahs, they are very easy to see, though then, if you look in the middle, there is a person, you might not know, I might not know, but he is the leader of MMA, he is a HINDUSTANI MUSLIM DEOBANDI AKA A MOHAJIR. :- )
You Said: “There is no hidden hate from Mohajirs. The term Hindustanis is used by Pashtoons to describe Mohajirs, we don’t use it! It is Pushtoons living in Karachi who look down upon us as Hindus and not true Muslims, because we don’t kill our women over mythical notions of honour, or we don’t lock them in a room with a blanket on their head. I have heard so many times from Afghans that say Urdu speaking people are not true Muslism like them and I am sick and tired of it.”
Again replying with stereotypes? :- ) I can give you a thousand stereotypes against Mohajirs, though like the famous Pashto saying goes “Do not pock in crap with a stick, it will only create more stink”.
In general Pashtuns don’t care if you are a Hindustani Muslim, a Punjabi Muslim, a Kashmiri Muslim, under the banner of Islam he will love you like his brother, or even more. They have proved that again and again.
As far as Urdu is concerned, many Pashtuns, and I mean many Pashtuns speak Urdu far better then your average Pakistani Urdu speakers. Even the Mullahs of our cities and villages speak far better Urdu then any other Pakistani. If they consider some people of Karachi as less of Muslims then it might be because of their liberal views and beliefs, rather then their race, language, or heritage.
Today in the core of Pashtun areas lives Hindus and Sikhs safe and sound with respect amongst the locals. They have their praying places, their businesses, and there even are drug lords with their own mobs. But I can’t guarantee that for these very Hindus and Sikhs if they were to live in any other part of Pakistan. Heck even the Christians are harassed in Karachi for eating during Ramzan.
You said: “I don’t call myself Hindustani, I call myself Pakistani Moahjir, and have you forgotten your own history? Afghanistan invaded India, not other way around, get it? And Karachi is certainly not Pashtoon land, ok?”
I don’t know if you call yourself Hindustani Muslim or not, but that is how you described a Mohajir, it’s in your own posts. Make up your mind.
Afghanistan invaded India, its no hidden fact, and that the Afghans won. All a Pakistani needs to do is ask why Pakistan named its missiles after Abdali, Suri, and Ghori, all whom are Afghans. If I were you, I would also ask the government of Pakistan why they named their defense system after Abdali, whom you claim was not as “pious” as people claim to be. In fact, you might want to ask that from Abdul Qadeer Khan, a “Hindustani Muslim” aka Mohajir :- )
Now you said: “And Karachi is certainly not Pashtoon land, ok?”
Honestly I didn’t know, as a Pakistani Pashtun I didn’t know that. I thought since the Pashtuns sacrificed so many of their children for Pakistan and its prestige, any place under that nation was their land as they are Pakistanis. I didn’t know that, in fact, you should let all Pashtuns of Pakistan know this, let them know that as Pakistanis they have no claim over that land. That as Pakistanis when they sacrificed their sons in Kashmir, Kargil and in many wars between Indian and Pakistan they are still not considered part of the land. Is this why they haven’t received a stinking name change over the past 50 years? You should let us know brother, you should let us know because we as Pashtuns are under the influence of a dream of one nation under Allah and Islam for which we sacrificed everything, our ties with our blood, our land, our heritage, our mother tongue and some are willing to give up on their AFGHAN identity, something that the Pashtuns bore with their blood and honor. In fact we declared our scholars Kafirs for this nation, those scholars that were amongst the first sons of this part of the world that didn’t want to see any hate or blood between Hindus, Sikhs and Muslims. In fact, if anyone showed any respect to the “commonness” between Pakistanis and Hindustanis it were the Pashtuns, it was a Pakhtun by the name of Abdul Ghaffar Khan and his Khudai Khedmatgaar. He even out did Ghandi, when he accepted Jinnahs plans for Pakistan, though Ghaffar as the son of the soul didn’t. That time, it was the “Hindustani Muslims” aka Mohajirs that didn’t give a two sh*t about the commonness between the Hindustanis and Pakistanis.
You guys can’t hold anything against the Pakhtuns in any game; in their liberal views, their extreme views, their religious views or their patriotic views. This is why they bore the name Afghan. And when some ignorant people insult Afghans in general, even though some “pathans” might join the bashing wagon, it might be insulting to Pashtuns, Pashtuns who know, who are not ignorant about their roots.
You said: “What hidden hate are talking about? Do you call facts of history hate now?”
Rora, I have given you facts, you have given me what you believe.
You said: “You really expect me to believe that the kind hearted soul Abdali came to India to protect Muslims from Hindus! He was looking for expanding his territory and gaining India’s riches. Same reason for every other invader.”
Ask that question from the people I mentioned above, earlier.
You said: “Yes, because people like you and even the Punjabis are living in your myths that you share nothing with India, when the opposite is true. Even many Pashtoons have Indian blood in them. Just look at Karzai, he looks like he is an Indian who belongs in Delhi rather then Kabul.”
I might share blood or history with India, I might share my looks, though when we except to be Muslims, we except to fallow it to the fullest, this is why the Pashtuns could careless if they were Aryans, Jews, Khushans, Zoroastrians, Buddhist etc. etc. Today when they act upon it to the fullest and I admit with many mistakes in their beliefs and views, they are called fundamentals, extremists, and jahil chauvinists by the people of the very nation that was created under the banner of ISLAM. That’s not the sad part, the sad part is that they act like this and say all this because they believe in the propaganda of those people and their friends from whom they separated from.
Yes rora (that is the right word) now I will take my leave from this topic. I already see that many people don’t have a clue here.
Nevertheless, it was a good discussion.
At the end, I will tell you this, I have more Mohajir friends then I have any other Pakistanis. They are still my close friends, even though every time they see me they let out a Pathan joke.
