If a Jehovah's Witness, or a Catholic, or a Jew or Hindu condemned me to their hell for all eternity, so be it...Doesn't matter an iota of difference to me...
However, if I believed certain wrong things about Judaism which were considered blasphemous by them and were corrected by a Jew later on, that's that...
How simple can it be...
The Quran says, you to your way and me to mine...Does it get any simpler than that?
somehow, i doubt you;d have much fun working with someone who tells you your religion is a perversion of theirs, and that you are going to hell. or living next doors to. i am sure most people would take offence.
Unfortunatley, you are taking this ayah in out of context. This ayah specifically talks about those believing Jews, Christians and Sabians who were firm in their faith prior to the prophethood of Muhammad:saw: and those were the previous Muslim ummah of time. Try reading some ayaahs before and after this one too.
how u even dare to resemble ur monkey and elephant simulated gods to one TRUE ALLAH !***
MR STRIPE-r your mama might have taught you some big words but no contributions towards *RESPECT FOR ONE’s RELIGION i see. *u share same sick and pathetic mistorted bounderies as rest of ur dawgies. well if u were any different u wud have chosen u any better religion then JUNGLE BOOK.
reminds me, BHUDISM was too hardcore of a religion to follow for ur fore-fathers rite ? isnt thats why yall broke off and created a religion leaded by a shepherd? by the way i still believe FRANK american #1 magician can do better then using rock as a ship and stabing a RAVEND to save his wife. well, rather then stabing he might as well call 911 no? LMFAO
p/s: to mods: SHOWING SOME COURTESY TOWARD A GOON IS ONE-THING, BUT I THINK ITS THE TIME YOU SHUT DIRTY TONGUE OF ROLLING.
The Ayaat of the Quraan, that appointed Muhammad (sas) as a Messenger of Allah were:
Ya ayohal Mudathir
Kum fa anzir
Oh you who is wrapped up, Arise and Warn…
What was Allah asking the Prophet to warn them about? It was the Wrath of Allah and Hellfire, nothing else. There were only two statements on the Prophets tongue; I have only come to deliver the message, I have only come to warn you. Read his Seerah and you’d find out the number of times he warned them of Hellfire, read the Quran and you’d find out how Quran warns the disbelievers of a Punishment like that which came on the People of 'Aad and Thamoud.
That is how our Prophet spread Islam, all out and clear. Nothing hidden. What new way of spreading Islam are you talking about? Do you claim to have a better and more efficient way of spreading Islam?
Islam doesn’t need recruits that we may present a polished up and goody good face of Islam. This is no ROTC. Whoever Allah guides, comes closer to Islam regardless of whatever. Guidance is in His Hands, He guides whom He Wills…He misguides whom He Wills.
my CATHOLIC friends tell me that screwing some girls, get drunk once a while, pop some drugs to calm ur sences etc are all permissible, if you go say HELLO to ur priest every sunday.
and they also tell me GOD is biological father of JESUS GOD FORBID and since GOD is dead now the CHOZEN POP is current god. and also explains SALVATION of how you can warm MR PRIEST’s pocket and become sinless.
The point is if I cannot be sure if I am going to heaven or not how can I judge a living person if that person will go to heaven or hell?
People who died as non-believers or those so called believers (non-practicing muslims) are given indications of going to hell in Quran.
But still its up to Allah afterall on final day what he may like in a person which we did not see. (call it hope, wish for mercy.......)
Its the duty of muslims to spread the word of Allah the best way and the kindest way they can and after that nothing like force, mockery, self righteousness or coersion is allowed.
If the person still not willing to accept ask Allah for his mercy on both parties and STOP there.
How? If I tell a man not to cross a busy road because they may get smacked by a truck…how is them being an idiot and doing so ANYWAY my fault?
I could very well stop them…but then, the analogy ends there…or are you against free will?
How so? And how is God throwing anyone in Hell? It’s us who is wandering the path…it’s not as if we’re being pushed here or there…
The vindictive God business is a crock…don’t like the message fine, but in the end it’s your choice…it’s a sign of weakness that you want all and sundry to endorse your choices…
Bombastic, you were whining for respect for your religion like a u know what just a few posts above. what happened? as you sow, so you reap. unfortunately most vocal "muslims" are hypocrites like you. enjoy your beizzati.
I dont expect your types to understand sharaabi... People with the same mentlity almost killed a christian boy in Pakistan the other day when he resisted them and didnt say the kalimah.
PS Mr Bombastic, your posts are as offensive to another religion as I have seen on this board. And that's no small feat.
Sharaabi, if you are saying Islam spread around the globe by playing on peoples' fears of hell and their selfishness to have a bountiful afterlife, why did that rapid growth stop? Why haven't the rest of us been scared and coerced into it?
*This happened a few months ago, this is the sort of attitude developed by those that are EXTREMELY intolerant of others views and condemn each other... This is just a small example. One of the sweepers in our residential block, a pakistani christian, was once arrested because he owed some money to some couselor in our area and the police threatened him that if he does not admit to a 'chori', they will book him for tauheen-e-risalaat. They also tortured him, and used a nail puller to pluck his thumbnails out. *
Friday, April 29, 2005
Christian injured for not reciting kalma
LAHORE: About eight people severely tortured a Christian in Chak 2 (South) near Mandi Bahauddin district for not reciting the kalma. According to a fax sent by the Holy Rosary Church to the Human Rights Commission of Pakistan (HRCP), Shahbaz Masih, who worked as a tractor driver for a local landlord, was picked up by several people from his house on the night of April 2 and taken to an undisclosed location. Later, the people told Shahbaz’s family that they had killed him and his body was lying in a field near his village. Shahbaz’s family members went to the location and found the boy alive. They took him to hospital, where he recorded a statement with his family and church authorities. According to the preliminary inquiry by the church, both of Shahbaz’s legs were broken because he refused to recite the kalma.
Lajawab, you sure you werent one of those people. You know whats worse than these baffoons who torture minorities, dunces like you who wont even admit this badmashi doesnt go on. Good luck finding a wife. And btw, according to you, this was the right thing to do, so nacho beta, this incident should provide you some relief, theres still some people who agree with ya.
Acha, this was discussed on pak affairs so why dont you resort to the advice you were giving me the other day, search for it yourself, what were you saying, something about not having the brains to search, ab khud kyoon nahee search mar rahey?
You can also start by checking out the thread, a recent one where 8 ahmedis were killed in the same city (mandi bahawaddin)
Seminole, who said Islam’s rapid growth has stopped? Look around, its spreading like wild fire in your country. For latest reports contact a Masjid near you.