Did they really exist? Should we as muslims believe that they existed like 230 million years ago?
Did Allah SWT create these creatures before he created Adam and Eve?
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Please excuse my lack of knowledge and for asking such a silly question
just wondered.
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ohh i’ve always wondered the same as well actually ![]()
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In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful
Assalaamu `alaykum waRahmatullahi Wabarakatoh
There is a possibility that dinosaurs did exist. Islam neither negates this fact nor does it confirm it. However, there is no Shari’ benefit in discussing such issues.
Allah Ta’ala says in the Holy Quran:
O those who believe, do not ask about things which,
if disclosed, may displease you; (Verse 5:101)
Under the commentary of this verse, Mufti Shafi Saheb (Rahmatullahi Alaih) explains:
“Asking about things for which there is no need, shall still remain prohibited, even after the discontinuation of the process of Prophethood. The reason is simple. This is a waste of time, your own and that of others.
One of the qualities making someone a good Muslim is that one leaves what is unnecessary.
This tells us that many of our brother Muslims who keep investigating into unnecessary subjects, such as, the name of the mother of Sayyidina Musa عليه السلام, or the precise length and breadth of the Ark of Sayyidina Nuh عليه السلام, indulge in what has no effect on one’s conduct in life. Therefore, asking such questions is blameworthy, especially when it is already known that people who tend to ask such questions are mostly unaware of the basics of their religion. The problem is that falling for what is wasteful invariably results in making one stay deprived of doing what is necessary.”
Ma’riful Quran (English Translation) Vol:3 Pg:265-267 (Maktabah Darul Uloom Karachi)
We too take heed from the abovementioned advice of Hazrath Mufti Shafi Saheb (Rahmatullahi Alaih)
And Allah knows best
Wassalam
Ml. M. Jawed Iqbal,
Student Darul Iftaa
Checked and Approved by:
Mufti Ebrahim Desai
Darul Iftaa, Madrassah In'aamiyyah
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Allah Ta’ala says in the Holy Quran:
O those who believe, do not ask about things which,
if disclosed, may displease you; (Verse 5:101)
Under the commentary of this verse, Mufti Shafi Saheb (Rahmatullahi Alaih) explains:
“Asking about things for which there is no need, shall still remain prohibited, even after the discontinuation of the process of Prophethood. The reason is simple. This is a waste of time, your own and that of others.
Jazak Allah Khair brother, I think this answers my question.
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Nice reply brother Crescent!! Perhaps, some people just can't help their sense of intrigue. It happens to me as well.
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“Asking about things for which there is no need, shall still remain prohibited, even after the discontinuation of the process of Prophethood. The reason is simple. This is a waste of time, your own and that of others.
askign about presence of dinosaurs and extinction of dinosaurs is not something for which there is no need, its understanding about our history, earth climate, what happened what insights can we derive from them etc etc.
Now it does not matter if they were created before adam and eve or after. it has no bearing on faith. they could be on the planet for millions of years in earth time but have been created afterwards.
when you try to think that time dimension is a limitation for god as it is for us, you can be completely off track even discussing it from that angle.
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One of the qualities making someone a good Muslim is that one leaves what is unnecessary.
Having an attitude like this would lead us no where ......
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Just because you can't find something in the holy books does not mean it is an unncessary subject. Or waste of time. Understanding the history of the world is uneeded? You might as well say ignorance is needed. Why in the world would someone be displeased to know that dinosaurs existed millions of years before man?
Dinosaurs, like evolution, neither confirm or negate religious beliefs.
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well this is why our 'scholars' at madrissas and seminaries need to eb taught more than just religious texts, fiqh and arabic, and islamic jurisprudence etc. if they cant think outside theri self imposed box what can one do, then their verdicts and all are goign to be out of touch with reality
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well this is why our 'scholars' at madrissas and seminaries need to eb taught more than just religious texts, fiqh and arabic, and islamic jurisprudence etc. if they cant think outside theri self imposed box what can one do, then their verdicts and all are goign to be out of touch with reality
You have to bring Scholars (in quotation mark) in every discussion, right?
If they start teaching about what is not covered in religious text, it would take them another 20 years to graduate one class. I never heard of any scholar caliming that what is not covered in Quran, does not exist.
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I find it hard to believe that 'religious' people are known as scholars.
They should be known only as Mulla's & preast's(sp).
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^ It's so easy to stereotype people... to insult others.
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Upto this point I agree with your post.
This was unnecessary as it does address the topic concerned. These verses are about unnecessary questioning in religous matters and splitting hairs. They do not belong in the context of acquiring knowledge even if about dinosaurs.
JAK.
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I find it hard to believe that 'religious' people are known as scholars. They should be known only as Mulla's & preast's(sp).
have a news for you. this world does not follow your belief system. so it does not matter what you beleive in
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There's nothing wrong with using the term "scholar" for those who study religous texts. Scholar implies knowledge of one particular subject.
The mistake is when the only education a child receives comes from teachers who only have this limited knowledge. The child would grow up to be ignorant of such things as dinosaurs if that were the case.
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leaving islamic point of view
even scientist are not 100 % sure of their existence , still there is a chance that skeleton were of different species of some other similar looking skeleton animals like kangroo etc
second it doesn't matter to me that they did exist or not but i am thankful that they donot exist now
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You have to bring Scholars (in quotation mark) in every discussion, right?
I did not breing scholars in this discussion my friend, if you go back and look at the posts that was done in post #3. I simply responded to that to put some perspective. Either the declaration by mufti sahab is incorrect, or the context in which it was presented in this thread as an answer to the question is incorrect. you pink which one.
If they start teaching about what is not covered in religious text, it would take them another 20 years to graduate one class. I never heard of any scholar caliming that what is not covered in Quran, does not exist.
sure, no disagreement here. Therefore such rulings need to be realistic keeping other factors in sight..thats all that I am saying
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leaving islamic point of view even scientist are not 100 % sure of their existence , still there is a chance that skeleton were of different species of some other similar looking skeleton animals like kangroo etc second it doesn't matter to me that they did exist or not but i am thankful that they donot exist
whether they were dinosaurs or large fluffy bunnies hopping around the basic premise of the question asked does not change, were they around before humans?
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whether they were dinosaurs or large fluffy bunnies hopping around the basic premise of the question asked does not change, were they around before humans?
one thing for sure, humans are not first one on this earth , so may be or may be not
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leaving islamic point of view
even scientist are not 100 % sure of their existence , still there is a chance that skeleton were of different species of some other similar looking skeleton animals like kangroo etc
I suggest you (and the "scientists" you reference) visit a two-story-tall Tyrannosaurus rex skeleton in a museum. Then give us the kangaroo story again.
Man has discovered the fossilized remains of dinosaurs on all seven continents, TONS of them. Sorry, but they are quite sure they were unique species not found today.