Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

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As mentioned, Dhaka Sweets is quite popular in Karachi for its cham cham. Thats how I know the origin of chom chom :stuck_out_tongue:

So far, we have pointed out Bengali kala jadu, popularity of Bengali origin artists in both countries, these sweets are common among us.

BTW, are Suharwardi Bengalis?

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yes Suhrwardi's are Bengalis. Bengali jadugar tou mashoor hain. Bengali food is a bit different, more spicy.

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Any link of Bengali Suharwardi and Suharwardi silsila of Sufism spread all over Pakistan?

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oh I was talking of Suhrwardi the caste, not sure if it has a link with the sufi order.

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The Suhrawardiyya order became popular in Bengal with the arrival of Sufis to Maner Sharif. Noted Sufis of the order in Bihar and Bengal include Makhdoom Yahya Maneri, Makhdoom Shahabuddin Pir Jagjot, Makhdoom Salah Darwesh Maneri and others. Maner Sharif is still considered a center of the Suhrawardiyya order.Makhdoom Lal Esun Karor is also famous saint of this order and elder grandson of Rukn e alum.

Suhrawardiyya - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Here is the popularity map of Suharwardiya order in only Sindh:

That means we share same sufi orders as well.

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Maybe Hussain Shaheed Sohrwardi was also a follower of the order. The way Islam is practiced throughout the subcontinent is more or less the same. Is this based on Shaafi madhab?

The Suhrawardiyya (Arabic: سهروردية‎) is a Sufi order founded by the Sufi Diya al-din Abu 'n-Najib as-Suhrawardi (1097 – 1168 CE). It is a strictly Sunni order, guided by the Shafi`i school of Islamic law (madhab), and, like many such orders, traces its spiritual genealogy (silsila) to Hazrat Ali ibn Abi Talib through Junayd Baghdadi and al-Ghazali. It played an important role in the formation of a conservative ‘new piety’ and in the regulation of urban vocational and other groups, such as trades-guilds and youth clubs (see Futuwwa), particularly in Baghdad.**

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I recently met a namesake from Bangladesh on a forum (about books). She is very kind and doesn’t hate me for having a Pakistani background. We’ve been talking about the Netherlands, Pakistan and Bangladesh amongst other things besides exchanging information about great authors and their work. She said nothing nasty about our shared history.

Many British looked down on all of us in the time they still ruled as one nation. When we became independant, Hindu, Muslims, Sikhs often each felt they were so much better than the other that they didn’t even have to treat each other well. India didn’t like that Pakistan became separate and in it’s turn Pakistan mistreated the people of Bangladesh and now Bihari’s are having a difficult time in Bangladesh. Sometimes it’s difficult to find something positive in humanity. (here the Netherlands had Indonesia as a colony amongst other places, but didn’t like German invasion of the Netherlands, Dutch people fighting the Germans became a hero but people in Indonesia trying to regain rule of their country from the Netherlands were treated like criminals)

Near Kotli in Kashmir where most of my family comes from is a village, I forgot it’s name, but a few family members have their origins from that village. Males sometimes still wear it there. The father of a cousin once visited us and to my surprise he was even wearing a dhoti here when he didn’t go out.

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historically sweets in subcontinent is originally a mandir and gurdwara subject. rich religious hindus might have caused the invention of variety of sweets though.

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The crow is white, Bengal is Pakistan - DAWN.COM

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**Cultural exchange with West Bengal – The Express Tribune

KARACHI: Pakistan’s outgoing High Commissioner in New Delhi is reported to have visited West Bengal’s Chief Minister Mamata Banerjee, along with his wife and a couple of diplomats from his mission, on a courtesy call. He delivered her an invitation from Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif to visit Pakistan at a time convenient for her. He also conveyed Pakistan’s interest in cultural and other exchanges with West Bengal. The news was broken by a Bangladesh newspaper which, obviously miffed at the overture by Pakistan, wondered why it should cultivate ties with a distant region in the east of India “with which it has no borders**”.

Yet, if true, it is a welcome move. West Bengal is the seat of Bengali culture. It is the home of the great sage Shri Chaitanya, besides, Vivekananda, Rabindranath Tagore, Bankim Chatterjee, Ishwar Chandra Vidyasagar, Kazi Nazrul Islam and many more. It is where Tagore’s famous residential educational institution, Shantiniketan, is situated and the remains of Sirajuddowlah are buried. Muslim Bengalis do not dwell only in Bangladesh. West Bengal also has a sizable population of Muslims in Malda and Murshidabad districts besides, Hoogly and 24 Parganas. Kolkata is a crucible of cultures as a cosmopolitan city and, above all, Urdu-speakers are not hated in West Bengal. In fact, there are a few such in Ms Banerjee’s cabinet. Cultural exchanges between West Bengal and Pakistan should, therefore, be mutually rewarding. Pakistani artists would find a receptive audience in West Bengal as Pakistan will welcome West Bengal performers. The initial move needs to be followed up vigorously. If Hasina Wajed is too puffed up, let us welcome Ms Banerjee.

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Why is Bangladesh concerned with what Pakistan does? :hmmm:

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same is the question from Bengalis. When West Pakistan was not happy with their cultural practices in past considering the same as Hindu origins, why Pakistan (which is more radical today) is bothered to exchange cultural delegations with West Bengal (which is Hindu majority without any doubt)?

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Things as they stand today, Hasina Wajid does not have to do anything with Pakistan. Its strange if they feel uncomfortable with what Pakistan does. The other parallel we have in the region is that Pakistan feels uncomfortable with Afghanistan improving relations with India (although this should not be of any concern to us). They are an independent country and should be allowed to pursue their foreign policy goals as per their wishes.

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:k:

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It is easy to deal with Ms Wajed than banerjee, I hope Pakistanis don't have much idea about, what sort of persona she is :D

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She is narrow minded person... being leader and behaving like gali karkun.... Her personality does not match with her designation.....

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Its better for Pakistan to learn accommodating culture of its own provinces with respect rather than jumping into other territories. The latest hoo haa about Sindh Festival (only highlighting negative aspects) says a lot about our attitude towards culture.

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You are talking about whom? banerjee or wajed?
Leaders are what their people are, so both cannot be markedly different as both are Bengalis :)

Indeed, Charity begins at home :)

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Shaikh Hasina Wajed....

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If this is 100% true about Wajed, then it is 200% true for Banerjee. Pakistanis are not aware of, Banerjee as yet.

As for Urdu-hating thing, the urdu-bengali conflict would be even more serious if it ever rose in our bengal than Bangladesh ever had :)