Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

[TS]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@muqawwee123

dang. Yes, they were checking their Muslamani.

What is the context of this picture ?

Is that a Pakistani soldier or an Indian soldier ?

Why is he trying to determine the lungi vaala's religion ?

What is he going to do if he is a Muslim or Hindu ?

Or is he just strip searching the guy like the Americans love doing.

[muqawwee123]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@TS

What is the context of this picture ?

Is that a Pakistani soldier or an Indian soldier ?

Why is he trying to determine the lungi vaala's religion ?

What is he going to do if he is a Muslim or Hindu ?

The caption says its a Pakistani soldier. Its not anything that could be denied. Soldiers who raped their sisters in religion (for God knows what revenge) could have done so without hesitation. Atleast, they did dare to get time for identity check then unlike today, when people are killed just by seeing CNICs.

[TS]

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Caption says searching Eat Pak Bengali in June 71.

Is he trying to determine religious affiliation ?
If so, for what ?
What happens if he turns out to be Muslim or Hindu ?

Or is he during some sort of security check for explosives ?

[queer]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

well there were several of instances of hindus being rounded up and killed en masse by the pakistani army.

Jathibhanga massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Krishnapur massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Adityapur massacre - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

who knows what the pic is from. i doubt it is a routine check for explosives.

[TS]

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If they were killing Bengalis indiscriminately, why were they differentiating between Hindus and Muslims ?

Also can you post some links of the Indian Army killings along with Mukti Bahini, or are there none ?

[queer]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

they werent killing bengalis indiscriminately. they went for the intelligentsia first - uni professors and students. then they went after the hindus. and when it all got out of control, everyone got it. perhaps you can find some links on what you asked, i am not aware of such events.

[TS]

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Also, what makes you so passionate about this subject ?
For Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, its obviously deep physical/psychological and national/individual wounds.

[mahool]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@TS

Caption says searching Eat Pak Bengali in June 71.

Is he trying to determine religious affiliation ?
If so, for what ?
What happens if he turns out to be Muslim or Hindu ?

Or is he during some sort of security check for explosives ?

1971… suicidal bomber concept was not popular…

[mahool]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@queer

i guess the lungi-dhoti difference wasnt convincing enough in 1971.

eww…

[queer]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@TS

Also, what makes you so passionate about this subject ? For Pakistanis and Bangladeshis, its obviously deep physical/psychological and national/individual wounds.

i am not particularly passionate about this any more than the history of the subcontinent in general. but i always find it odd how pakistanis seem to stake out the moral high ground in kashmir about indian army atrocities (which are incredibly brutal no doubt) but dont even acknowledge the genocide ten times in size sanctioned and conducted in an organized fashion by their own army.

[mahool]

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@Jolie

As far as my experience with British Bengladeshi goes, they can’t be bothered about Asian politics and history. Even if by any chance, they get into political banter with me, needless to say I always win. :DBut they very nice and easy people in general, love their bhanghra music, even though they don’t understand a single word of Punjabi. They’d be blasting bhangra music in their cars without having a clue what the lyrics really mean. Some of them can definitely do better bhangra than me, and** they admire Pakistani fashion, food and think we’re good quite looking people (well my friends certainly think Pakistani guys are hot)**

This is last good thing we Pakistani have…

[TS]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@queer

i am not particularly passionate about this any more than the history of the subcontinent in general. but i always find it odd how pakistanis seem to stake out the moral high ground in kashmir about indian army atrocities (which are incredibly brutal no doubt) but dont even acknowledge the genocide ten times in size sanctioned and conducted in an organized fashion by their own army.

I think Pakistanis acknowledge it and are ashamed quite obviously.
But certainly the size of the genocide as you put is way exaggerated.
Indian/Bangladeshi narrative have been propagated dominantly whereas Pakistani narrative has not been or is just missing.
There is no denying the atrocities but certainly the gross exaggeration of numbers is being questioned slowly now.
What do you think of the Indian author Sharmila Bose's work. Do you consider it bogus ?
Also, when you combine the Kashmir, Hyderabad (recently exposed), Punjab sagas, and correct the exaggerations of East Pakistan debacle,
India is probably right up there in culpability.
The gross interference of India and physical distance between the two wings of the country certainly exacerbated the mess that breakup of Pakistan became.
I wonder if there was no Indian involvement, if there would have been less or more killing. That would be another chapter on its own.
At least Pakistan's interference in Kashmir can be justified on the ground that it is disputed region.
E. Pak was not disputed region between Ind-o-Pak, notwithstanding all the problems going on there.

[queer]

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this is exactly what i told you about, man. you dont know abc of what went on in bangladesh but you are certain casualties are exaggerated.

[TS]

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@queer

this is exactly what i told you about, man. you dont know abc of what went on in bangladesh but you are certain casualties are exaggerated.

Thanks for your certificate.
You must have the hegemony over all information.
It’s typical. Whatever feeds your ultra-nationalist Indian hubris.

Disappointed with your response but not surprised.
You didn’t address straight questions.

[u_ahmed]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@queer

i am not particularly passionate about this any more than the history of the subcontinent in general. but i always find it odd how pakistanis seem to stake out the moral high ground in kashmir about indian army atrocities (which are incredibly brutal no doubt) but dont even acknowledge the genocide ten times in size sanctioned and conducted in an organized fashion by their own army.

Not all of us. Just the majority unfortunately.
BANGLADESH I am sorry

[the_kaur]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

Bengalis impacted indian impression more than any ethnicity in first phase of independence, now I think it is south indian economic engine that is running India up :)

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

I dont think we Bengalis have any impact on us and vice versa. Reason being there's no direct link between the two areas.

As far as the relationship between the people is concerned, I believe Pakistanis are more neutral. But Bangladeshis have two groups. Awami League and their followers are very anti Pakistan, and it makes sense as their politics revolves around that. Where as Khalida Zia's party is more neutral. Therefore their opinion is divided.

[muqawwee123]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

I dont think we Bengalis have any impact on us and vice versa. Reason being there's no direct link between the two areas.

As far as the relationship between the people is concerned, I believe Pakistanis are more neutral. But Bangladeshis have two groups. Awami League and their followers are very anti Pakistan, and it makes sense as their politics revolves around that. Where as Khalida Zia's party is more neutral. Therefore their opinion is divided.

Cham Cham (Chom Chom) and Rasgulla (Roshgulla) are Bengali sweets... Dhaka Sweets is quite popular in Karachi.

[Ali_Syed]

Re: Did Bengalis leave marks of their Culture on West Pakistan?

@muqawwee123

Cham Cham (Chom Chom) and Rasgulla (Roshgulla) are Bengali sweets… Dhaka Sweets is quite popular in Karachi.

how do you find out which food belongs to where?

Other than these what similarities do you see in the two cultures?

[muqawwee123]

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Chômchôm Chômchôm, (চমচম) (originally from Porabari, Tangail District in Bangladesh) goes back about 150 years. The modern version of this oval-shaped sweet is reddish brown in colour and has a denser texture than the rôshogolla. It can also be preserved longer. Granules of maoa or dried milk can also be sprinkled over chômchôm.

Rôshogolla http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/db/Rasgulla_-Kolkata_2011-09-19_5234.JPG/220px-Rasgulla-_Kolkata_2011-09-19_5234.JPG http://bits.wikimedia.org/static-1.23wmf10/skins/common/images/magnify-clip.png
Roshagolla (Rasgulla)

Rôshogolla, a traditional sweet, is one of the most widely consumed sweets in Westbengal. The basic version has many regional variations. Rôshogolla is one of the three most prominent trademark of Bengali culture (along with Rabindranath Tagore and the festival of Durga Puja) and probably the face of Bengali cuisine to people outside Bengal.

Bengali cuisine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

OMG… Bengalis got so much variety in cuisine. shame on those who labelled owner of such rich tradition in food as ‘Bhooke’. :nook: