Re: “Desi” men
my mum (housewife, not desi) allways told me about other working mums at school looking down on her cause she aws staying home:rolleyes: …(in france…)
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Yes, thats a problem too, although one that needs its own thread!
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ok so dont u guys think in this case men should also have a choice?? stat at home men are mostly looked down upon by working men....
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A big problem at that, mommy of three, but it seems in your "ignorant generalities and facts" you have deftly avoided that issue. Why? Is it possible then that may be you are not a good observationalist? You are starting to sound like a mildly racist sexist, mommy of three.
Stay home mom/dads are always looked down upon by working mom/dads. FACT. It has nothing to do with gender.
Working men look will underestimate stay-home dads more than they do stay-home moms, as will working women.
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I dont see what issue I'm avoiding, Dope....sorry. I've never had the experience of a NON desi imposing on my home. Non-desis seem to be so much more concious of this that I've never had the displeasure of that experience. The only times I've had this experience, it was always Desi Men, hence my post. I am NOT saying that its ALL!! But whenever I've had the experiences as described in my initial post, it was WITHOUT FAIL a Desi Man! I am just asking....why is this? Yes, the problems you mention are problems....just not the one that I posted abt!! No disrespect intended!
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Mama, I go back to the original question of why did not Verizon stand up to this and tell the dude...look, here is the washing machine and dryer and this is how you operate it...feel free to do your laundry and by the way put the ironong table back after you are done...its simple and to the point.
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Yes, being born in the USA--the paragon of virtue--you are at a vantage position to lecture people from other cultures on hygeine, human interaction and hospitality.
Like i said, it is entirely possible that, with your bigotry, you are making blatantly biased observations without any merit.
Stick to desi men being wife-beaters troll, and you will get your cult of followers.
Surely, Irish people loving to tell stories and getting drunk is a fact and a generality, right? Isn't that what you claimed?
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dope you are sincerely misguided and completely miss the point of what I've written. I live in USA and this comes with certain "generalities". As does living ANYWHERE on the planet. Not that "mine is better than yours", that was NOT the intention nor did I say anything to that effect. Like I said, you miss the point because you're hunting me.
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Oye dope stop the hunting...Verizon will have you chopped.
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lol kaleem!! i waiting for him now! and Mama is MAAAADDD!!
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Mama's original post:
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....it seems to me, the un-initiated, that desi men in general (read: NOT ALL) desi men have certain, well, poor characteristics. Am I wrong about this? And why are these characteristics seemingly common in desi guys? Things I've noticed:
They dont care if they're imposing themselves on you if its convenient and/or fun for them to stay with you.
They assume that a woman staying at home raising children is
1. uneducated
2. ignorant/stupid (in everything from finance to computers to world affairs to child-rearing)
3. there to serve the wants, needs and comforts of the "MAN"
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My rebuttal:
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Stay home mom/dads are always looked down upon by working mom/dads. FACT. It has nothing to do with gender.
Working men look will underestimate stay-home dads more than they do stay-home moms, as will working women.
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Mommy of three's response, where she makes sweeping generalization
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dont see what issue I'm avoiding, Dope....sorry. I've never had the experience of a NON desi imposing on my home. Non-desis seem to be so much more concious of this that I've never had the displeasure of that experience. The only times I've had this experience, it was always Desi Men, hence my post. I am NOT saying that its ALL!! But whenever I've had the experiences as described in my initial post, it was WITHOUT FAIL a Desi Man
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Who is more misguided here?
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LOL, so right! How’s that for being educated (knowing how to use the bailan), intelligent (knowing when to use the bailan) and fulfilling the needs of the man (needing to have his noodles re=arranged).
Seriously though…some relationships can be sooooo lop-sided. This is where I will have to side with Mama. And unfortunately enough, I find more of these lop-sided relationships involve desi men than not.
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^ Muzna, is that because you yourself are a desi and know them intimately? I think so, I have seen many other guys doing the same thing ranging from white, black, brown...you name it.
I think it is a cop out to hide behide hospitability and say that we did not want to be rude to the guest. You do not have to be rude, you just tell the person how it is...You do your own laundry and you make the bed when you get out of it...simple.
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[quote="Mamaof3
They assume that a woman staying at home raising children is
- uneducated
- ignorant/stupid (in everything from finance to computers to world affairs to child-rearing)
- there to serve the wants, needs and comforts of the “MAN”
Clueless. C’mon guys get a clue!![/QUOTE"]
i dont know where you live but you just described 95% of men… i would not say its only pakistani its just guys in general…
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Well women certainly aren't helping their own cause.
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:), it's just a general discussion
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I have got loads of reasons to hate desi men, and thankfully I am not married to one (not yet anyway)..... but seriopuslt the very sight of some of them makes me feel like puking....ugggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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Stop picking on Mamaof3 y'all, she's just venting. Mama, I do disagree on one thing, if a guest is inconvenient, you should feel free to tell them that you are not accepting any guests. This feeling of obligation is silly, why not tell the guest that you have a lot going on? You can NOT expect desi guests, under any circumstances, to get the hint, you can NOT be subtle. You HAVE to be blunt.
Secondly, yes, desi men for the most part are mama's boys. Let me make a distinction between a mama's boy and one who respects his mother. One who respects his mother does just that, takes care of mom, talks to her, helps her, and genuinely loves and respects her. A mama's boy does all the above AND is incapable of making any decisions without mama's approval, be it education related, job related, house hold stuff related, spouse related. These mama's boys fall in love at the drop of a hat but then don't have the balls to go to their mamas and say they've found a girl. They can't buy a house/rent an apartment without mama's approval. They suppress their tastes and wants just to make mama happy without realizing that mama will be happy to see you happy.
PCG... Lajwanti is a hypocrite, he's always criticizing everyone/everything and then has the pair to say that criticizing is wrong. Ass.
Desi men also have this really cheap habit of agreeing to things, making commitments etc, and then not following through. Twice now, I've moved and asked a bunch of friends and associates for help with moving. The non-desi guys always say no if they can't help and if they say yes, by God, they show up on time. Desi guys ALWAYS say yes, and both times, none of the desi guys showed up to help even though they committed to it. In my social circle, there is one desi guy, whenever we have any sort of event, party, football game, bowling, whatever, he ALWAYS says that he's going to be there and will bring the chips or the drinks or whatever. And he ALWAYS fails to show up. So, to me, the word of most desi men is not worth cat poop. All this is true for most desi guys that I know of. Perhaps this is why I don't have many desi friends, I've been burned one too many times. I'm not saying that all desi guys are like this.
On a more serious note, do you know why women have small feet? So they can stand closer to the sink... bwaahahahahaha!!!
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Mr A,
Thank you and bless you for your mature understanding and response. I want to say that NON-DESIs certainly have their drawbacks too, but the drawbacks that I've seen as specific to "Desis" are mentioned in my initial post which is not what I find myself wanting to vent about at the moment....we could discuss till the cows come home what wrong with them but since they aint bothering me at the moment, that's NOT what my post is about!
to ms./mr./whatever Dope. BZZZZZZZZZZZTTT!!! Wrong once again!!! One thing you certainly have DOWN PAT is the earning of your nic lol!!! Really and truly, you should examine your rage and make an attempt to get it under control. I think you truly dont understand that I have no hatred in my heart for anyone nor do I have prejudices against any specific people. Peace to you and I really and truly do wish you to find it....I havent found it yet, still seeking....but may you find it too.
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Kaleem,
Now you're gonna make me admit that I socialize outside of our desi community.......okay....fine, I'll admit it.
I do know men from other cultures that do not behave in this fashion or with this mindset. It's mainly the desi men that I know who are hung up on these beliefs.