Re: Darwin: Man or monkey!!!
Actually, ignorance comes into play when people categorically deny evolution as a science. Many, many people who are much smarter than anyone on this board and who have studied this for years refer to evolution as a science. Creationism and intelligent design on the other hand have no basis in science whatsoever.
Peace Seminole
"Smart people" is just as much a criterion for being self-deluded as much as ignorance. Why? Well of course because they have "faith" in their OWN ideas. Yes, there are people who refer to Evolution as a science, I'm not one of them. But I gotta hand it to ya, pulling off that fast one, that in some sense Creationism and Intelligent Design toters offer their views as a science.
I think not! Creation 'theory', Intelligent Design and low and behold Evolution, all three, fall in to the same category, which is belief. Never does a Creationist call the process of Creation a science. Some beliefs are supported by scientific findings, but that is not to say that the interpretation of those findings is absolute and indicative in support of a specific belief.
The fossil record is evidence but it is not an explanation. The explanation for the same evidence can be made to suit both the belief system of Evolution as it can for the belief system of Creation. Depends on the belief system of the one who does the explaining.
The ignorance comes in because science is looked at as a subject rather than a function that fulfils a set number of patterns.
Science is: Hypothesis, Test, Re-evaluate, Refine model, Eliminate error, Conclude
The most fundamental thing to prove evolution is to put it to test, to see it happening. The day we see animals change form and nature, that is when they mutate, they don't just live for one generation, but can continue procreating and at the same time can also no longer procreate with from what they evolved.
E.g. Donkey becomes cow. Donkey x gives offspring to donkey mutant, donkey mutant must be compatible with cow i.e. be able to sire from a cow, but at the same time must not be able to sire from donkey as it has mutated away from it.
There are no examples of sexual procreation among genetic mutants in the animal kingdom. It does exist in the single-celled domain of viruses, but they are borderline not strictly living entities.
Anyway the reason why evolution is a belief, is because the proof of evolution is only obtainable in time. Well the proof that we will be Judged will be obtained in time also. It is a forecast, a prediction a belief that something is going to occur to give us more information about the subject at hand.
Science is usually something that can be rigged and the phenomenon should be producible provided the conditions are in place. I heard no case of evolution being lab generated. Did you?