DANCE PARTY in Lahore

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-- Again, US of Eh has issues so does the rest of the western world. Like i said you must be living in/on your bed Fretz. :)

I think you should go back to school and do some more research. As far as harassment goes, There are all forms of harassment here in the western world, yes it is obvious here too. If you dont hear such things here, that is probably because you may be living in some Yahooville.

If Pakistan has obvious harassment cases there are even more obvious harassment cases here and for that they have created groups or associations that handle such problems (AWID) --google that when you get time infact just google :); and now regarding harassment.... i don’t know if you've heard the term called 'Harassment'? 'Women Shelter' ..yada yada yada? :) list goes on buddy. And like i said being more liberal will not make things as such easier but rather more screwed up. People like you think short term and how it could miraculously solve the problem cause we aren't like the 'Western-World' well BooHoo to you son. :)

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What part of my posts do you not understand? I think it’s you who are living in a bubble. I’m well aware that harassment occurs everywhere. However, are that naive to deny the fact that harassment occurrs so much more in Muslim countries? Have you never spoken to a women who lives there? Ask her how many times she’s been “pinched” at the market, or sang to while passing by guys? This kind of stuff just does NOT happen in the west, and yes that’s a fact. So, you can keep saying that I live in a bubble all you want if it makes you feel better, but it’s not going to change the facts.

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This article is one that I wanted to post here, but its already been posted in religion, although, I don’t think it got the attention it deserved.

http://www.paklinks.com/gs/showthread.php?t=203870

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Fret Wizard is rite, harrassment does occur everywhere but it is more common in Muslim countries for some reason. But just to be fair, i unfortunately have been "pinched" both in Pakistan and the US...so u can't always label the problem to one country. Of course their r bad ppl everywhere. I think women in western countries r not AS afraid to speak up, but then again it depends on the girl. I guess i was the type to avoid further confrontation, (in the US) so i just ignored it. Maybe i was wrong then, but at the time i'm scared that the guy will just bother me even more, so i just left it alone. I'm sure girls in Pakistan have the same fear also, just like anywhere in the world really.

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1) there was a dance party in lahore: well big deal, there are many dance and rave parties throughout pakistan...and even in fact in saudi arabia!!! shocker?? no not really...its a known thing...albeit the frequencies have increased...

2) now if people have a problem, they can always show it by exercising thier vote by voting for our "dearest freinds" the MMA (i admit the elections in pak r not xaclt fair)

3) women do get abused throughout the world...true...but one has to look at figures a bit critically...

in pakistan there is high rate of abuse...especially in rural areas, where no reporting happenes...or say the FATA where the govt has virtually no power at all! and about rape women are scared to speak up possibly due to a) fear fo shame or b) death threats

yes admitted rape and abuse does happen there, but the point is that our religion and culture is totally agianst something as such, why are we comparing ourselves with the west...any rape is bad...

and about women being safer in the west...depends where......in canada women would be safer...not so sure about a place like say, nyc.

i will relate 2 recent example of abuse in the saudi arabia, one in damam, while i was there for a visit, and one in riyadh. in khobar, me and a bunch of freinds where walking down corniche road, and 2 girls in abayas (burqas), with the veil were being chased i the car park of the mall by 6 saudis in their cars...this kind of thing is common here...whereas in the west the types of girls that are usually harrased would be those that wear virtually nothing

and other case is something that became quite famous here...a group of 4 girls being harrased and felt up in riyadh by a group of 4 saudi guys...on a desreted road in the capital...this was one instance where the boys were sentneced each to approximately 15 years and 18 lashes of the whip...

the second case shows how women may be safer in the muslim world...but the 1st case does show that abuse and harrasment is usually unprovoked and would not happen if there was slightly more inter-mogling of the sexes...

both fret and jaani have some valid points, but at the end of the day, the lives belong to those ppl who actually went to those parties...and its their choice... if they want to sin, its their life...jaani nothing u say or do would affect them unless u put a "promotion for virtue/prevention of vice police force" (or mutawwa as we know them in saudi), that kicks their ass...but even then thes people will find ways...like they have in saudi arabia...

fret...your right to say its their life...and that everyone sould be free to make thier own choice about religion and their actions...if some one wants to drink despite being muslim...let them...if some else doesnt want to...then good for them...i think it should just be upto a person to make a value judgement for themselves...its upto people what thy want in this life and in the "life after death"

peace out people cuz this is one topic which is never ending...

Awais

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Hey Awais buddy which school did/do you goto in Al-Khobar? Im an old Dhahran Academy Graduate :) Looking for old buddies from Saudi. You wouldn't happen to be Owais Shamsi?

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When modernism = being half naked dancing with men, then NO IT SHOULDNT!
Do you think women arent harrassed in clubs? HHAHA!! Have you even ever been to one??
It should be frowned upon, not encouraged. It shouldnt be accepted in ISLAMIC republic of Pakistan.

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Jaani and Awais you guys know shaiban or abha?

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Care to quote me on where I said “Modernism = Dancing with men half naked”? Before blurting out stupidities, try to go through the thread so you understand what’s going on. And yes, unless you’re at a swingers club, or a singles bar, then women generally are not harassed.

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Fretz just face it men come from Mars and Women From Venus and you my friend come from Pluto. :P

Hey Barfee which city in Saudi and Which school. If it is Dhahran and school being Dhahran Academy ... which year? :)

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It’s called reality, you should check it out sometime

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:smack: they are not people, they are places let me PM you a name, i am sure u know her!

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Hey Barfee, yes i know those places, but no i live far from that when ever im down in Saudi.

Fretz you're useless to talk to, so, end of conversation ...be on your merry way.

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so wats wrong with dance partyz ? no offence to anybody niether m i trying to blow ur religious values or concirns .. but cme on LIVE N LET LIVE !! n as far thez dance partys are concirned .. folks .. lahoriz have been rocking them partys since JOHN Mcdonald's (school) first batch graduated.

but yea good post !

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Oh come on, it was starting to become fun watching you get frustrated. I guess we know who’s living in the bubble now.

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dance partys rock :bhangra: :bhangra: :bhangra: :bhangra:

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Have any of u even been to a dance party in lhr? or r u just assuming that they are exactly the same as those in the West?

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been there done that .. but ofcourse they are not the same xact .. use ur brain, will ya !

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ARY was airing a dance party? Wow, i'd rather watch paint dry then ever watch a dance party on TV.

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