Dajjal in Isfihaan?

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I was never known for that. :)

Besides there are so many others writing their dissertations on the subject, I presume.
I haven't read them. They are too long and I have attention deficit disorder and am short on time.

Anyways, I think I have contributed all I wanted to this thread.

So I won't bother you anymore. :)

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who said he will?

In this dream, Kaaba represents Islam. dajjal and Isa ibn mariam (as) both doing tawaff but objectives are different. example of dajjal here is like a thief / attacker moving around the house in oder to inflict damage to it while Isa ibn mariam (as) is there as a protector.

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FAO TS

Salam Alaikum

muslims have never excelled at anything, algebra, science, anything, as they have the science of hadith. i have been witness to a debate between a rival religion to islam on hadiths. its an amazing field

certainly having learnt a few basic principles, i can confidently say this is the biggest Islamic achievement. the Quran is a hadith too however its preservation has been taken responsibilty of by Allah SWT

btw the hadith preservation started orally when companions of the Prophet SAW started to hear hearsay when the islamic empire rapidly expanded, which happens to be the same reason as why the Quran was put to written, collated form

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yeah that could be one of the meanings of this dream.

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Thanks. What is FAO ?

And your name sounds Hindu. Is it ? What does it stand for ?

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Peace TS

No the ahadith that have been generally presented here are correct. But the way they are being used is not correct. The metaphoric ones are trying to be presented as literal and the literal as metaphoric ... by some ...

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for attention of

yes its a silly name, it stands for shard and manny
so you can say half is persian and half is arabic mixed with engliss slang

its got nothing to with hey mubarak ajj ki din raat hey suhani...

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Okay, thanks.

So Shard is Persian and Manny is Arabic ?

What do these words mean ? Pardon my ignorance.

Hareem, sorry for being :offtopic:.

By the time you come back from cooking your next delicious food item, I’ll be OFF-THREAD. Promise. :slight_smile:

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dude your the one with publicized ATT disorder,

tell us about TS :)

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Honestly please answer my question before Hareem comes back with a hunter/chaanta/cricket bat (they don’t know what baseball bat is in the old God-forsaken Queen’s country). :jj::asa:

O, and to know, know, know TS is to love, love, love TS. :slight_smile:

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i have mufti abu lubaba’s book on dajjal in urdu which was initially published in three different volumes. Very informative.

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There is no hate involved. Verily, Quran says that all that does righteous deeds will be rewarded for what they did. Though, they will also be accountable for not believing what was revealed to them. Allah is the best of judges but maghzub and azzaleheen are two group of people from whom Allah taught the duaa of fateha to stay away from. It’s not my words honestly. Read the Quran and you’ll find Allah talking about idolaters and how their end resort is hell too. Like I said, Allah is the best of judges and He will forgive whomsoever He pleases.. but lets just say we are told not to be following the path of those who are maghzub and azzaleheen.

Read the hadith you’re mentioning. It says jews of isfahaan will follow/support dajjal. Why does it not say Jews will convert to whichever religion the dajjal will be trying to spread ? Jews will remain jews, and they will support/follow dajjal by staying jews. Dajjal as I said earlier, is Christianity as a whole which emerged from western countries. Jews despite being against Christians are in full support of western countries. Look at Israel for example. Despite having religious difference among these 2 religions, Israel is close to USA then say Iran or Pakistan or any other Muslim country. Jews will support dajjal. Yes, they are. Politically..economically.. militarily etc.

You’re missing out the point about technology here. There are 2 hints by Muhammad PBUH about the coming of Dajjal. One was his appearance, how it should be recognized and secondly, the ‘era’ in which it will emerge with all its power.

Ahadith mentioning KA FA RA written on his forehead, being one eyed.. mentioning of how they will deceive people, mentioning of how he will be wealthy and people will mistakenly think of him as God. How he will give rizq to whomsoever accept him as God and refuse to give rizq to whomsoever rejects him. Jews supporting him etc.

Then there are ahadith about the ‘ride’ he will be using to accomplish all that. The ride of dajjal referred in some ahadith as ‘donkey’. This ride will have 30 feet distance between his ears (telecommunication being another example of that), will eat fire, covers the distance of months in minutes.. in some hadith i read the ride of camel will be obsolete.. and other description of dajjal’s ride. This refers to the ‘era’ in which dajjal will emerge with all its power. The era is already here.

Do you find any hadith which says Dajjal’s ride will be destroyed ? Rather, we see that Dajjal itself will be destroyed. The concept of trinity will be destroyed, the concept of them saying Jesus is son of God (nauzubillah) will be destroyed by Messiah. Messiah is said to kill pigs and break cross. This again refers to Christianity as cross is their symbol and pig is what they consume. Messiah upon his arrival will destroy their basis of beliefs.

Dajjal’s ride (technology.. airplane, train etc) is the sign of the ‘era’ in which dajjal will emerge. And to recognize dajjal, see christianity/western powers.

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^he! you are saying he so its a person, you agree? or there is a specific person involved/to be involved?

@ts shard is a persian name (i think), manny is nickname for Usman

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it is in three volumes, unfortunately 3rd volume is not available online.

The other book i posted is very good mahallah

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Dear Brothers

we are spending most of our time with useless talk, while forgetting the important message from our Rasool Muhammad peace be upon him. In quran it say " I have given you very little knowledge".

You have to learn Quran 1st and then Hadith.

The question about dijal is like question about death...if you believe or not there will be a day when you will be no more, so what, if dijal come or not, he will be or not.
go and help the God by helping his peoples and take the credit from Allah.
tell your people don't listen to baraylwi, daubandi etc etc. be a muslim only.
if you start reading quran with translation you will be surprise what you read.
have lot to say but " art is long and time is fleeting".
always request guidance from Allah...and you will be the best.
FeeAmanAllah.

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@topic
its in "the arrivals" series too n that its a system that has been implanted already....
i cant talk in detail because i'm not sure of the writings/videos i find online....dont know how much authentic they are....

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the crackpot maker of the arrivals has now for years called on his own mahdi-ship amongst his own religion, the last i knew he was calling people of his own religion to give allegience to him as the mahdis representative. ie making his own cult

however sunni muslims did make the revival series in response however it is less dramatised then the cultists series

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Peace neversleep49

Rather than tell people not to be Barelwi or Deobandi it is better to let people be what suits their understanding and when it comes to critcising one another to avoid that ... so if you are Barelwi work with the Deobandis and if you are Deobandi work with the Barelwis in order to call yourselves one Muslim Ummah ... If we are not people of takfir and we are not people who alienate others then we should not say don't listen to so and so, but we should say let's work together, if you are a believer in Allah (SWT) and His final Messenger (SAW). To define ourselves as "not Barelwi" or "not Deobandi" is as bad as saying that we only follow Barelwis or Deobandis and avoid everyone else. The best way to be "a Muslim only" is to recognise the good in others and ignore the parts that we disagree with ... but not to focus on our disagreements rather to focus on our common aspirations, and goals and ideals.

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Im not sure why people are so oblivious to the system whilst we are in the midst of it.

Its like the jews had all the signs for the arrival of a messiah (prophet isa), and were actively expecting him, but when he turned up as a christian they dismissed his claims crucified him.

Im not saying that dajjal is a massih, just that we have all the signs laid bare for us and yet we are looking elsewhere for some one eyed guy, with a huge fire eating donkey with ears in the sky and land to appear. Gods system does not work like like that.

With the hadith that only true momins will recognise him and see the kufr on his forehead, you would think then that dajjal would be a little more subtle than that.

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I have no doubt that we are living in a dajjalic system and dajjal is a person and will appear after the arrival of Mahdi.