Da Vinci Code

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I did not call you cunning guy..I called this writer a cunningn man who decided to make money off of writing a controversial book like this.

Moreover it was for the writer that he had to use a sensible approach of arguing directly if he had any doubt or reservation about any religious belief.

Along the same line......... I watched Shahid Hussain and Mr. Ataaullah from Lahore discussion on ARYONE and agreed with the balanced approach by Mr. Ataullah with his last few sentences ( as those are the one I could catch) which suggested and (I have added my words )that Muslims must not agree with anyone mocking or disrespecting or mis-representing the religious figures and prophets we also believe in.

But it should also be extended to ANY religion if someone tries to use 'freedom of expression' excuse to write distortion of facts or write his/her 'imagination' about ANY religious figures.

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No one answered Faisal's very valid question. Why are Muslims protesting over this book? How has Da Vinci Code portrayed Jesus (AS) in a way that contradicts the Quran? Sheesh you would think us Muslims have nothing else to worry about except some fictional book.

I read the book, fascinating read. End of story.

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guys read the book first, its a good read. I am sure most of you will enjoy reading it from cover to cover in one setting :)

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The book attributed qualities and activities not present even in Islamic teachings. A fiction about prophets and religious figures is immoral, un-ethical and plain simple wrong. Period.

Write fiction about any person you like but don't make religious figures a source of fun by spreading lies about them.

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From what I have read and have also seen documentaries on the Davinci Code, it seems that this book (as claimed by historians and not the church) implies that the holy grail is actually the documentation of Jesus Christs lineage. Most people in the past had mistaken the Holy Grail as treasure from the time of Jesus Christ and were treasure hunters or "Grail Hunters". The Davinci code has been portrayed as one of the most authentic hoax's played out on society by various individuals who have stood out in History (Leonardo Davinci's paintings as being one of the most famous ones). The concept here is that if this was true the divinity of Jesus Christ would be questioned and the Pope and the church would lose all credibility, because then they would have to seek out the children on Jesus and make them the Pope etc becuz they would also be divine as they are connected by blood to Jesus. As far as historians know, this is a fake and such implications even in fiction, offends the Church. As muslims we believe Hazrat Eesa (Jesus Christ) never had any wives and was taken up by Alllah before his crucifiction, Christians believe that he was divine and was crucified for their sins. If the "Code" is true then Christians would question everything that has been told to them in the last 2000 years, and this is a direct threat to the institution of the Church. Once again this is what i have read and researched in my limited knowledge. Only Allah knows best.

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An excellent read and a must watch. Intresting thing is that, all the protest actually proves the point what the book suggests.:)

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One must not follow what others stated when the Prophet PBUH was mocked at by cartoons.

As muslims we must protect the respect of religious figures. We must act better than others.

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Help me understand here. Can you point me to some authentic Islamic literature (quran, hadith etc) which talks about Jesus never marrying? I don't recall anything which talks about that. Ofcourse, one can argue that had Jesus actually married then most likely Quran would talk about it, but we all know that is not necessary. All I am trying to understand is, what part of the theory presented in this fiction book, Da Vinci Code, is negated by authentic muslim beliefs. Frankly, I never heard that Jesus married or had kids, so I always assumed he never did, and was crucified before he married. Now, if someone brings the theory that no, he did marry and had kids, I am not sure how it impacts me or my beliefs. Jesus Christ's prophethood is not questioned in the book, at all.

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There are many other things which by islamic teachings are considered WRONG from making movie on religious characters to showing/writing something which is not part of religious teaching.

Anything outside what is taught by the religion about a religious person's life is considered false imagination and promoting this means we are willing to attribute something to a religious person something which MAY not even be true!

Thats wrong and nothing but wrong.

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I thought the movie business itself is haraam and unislamic.

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I am not talking generally about movies. Hollywood routinely makes movies about prophets, e.g. Ben Hur, Passion of the Christ, Last Temptation of Christ etc. The list is pretty long. Yeah, so you can show your disdain towards all of that, but my question was very specific and has nothing to do with the movie.


Interesting thought.

However, lets focus back on the question I raised in my last post. Forget the book or the movie for a moment. Since **Mastanah **mentioned that "As muslims we believe Hazrat Eesa (Jesus Christ) never had any wives and was taken up by Alllah before his crucifiction", I am trying to understand where in Islamic text it talks about Jesus marrying or not marrying. May be we assume he never married because its not mentioned, but that doesn't make it conclusive. It just makes it our assumption. However, if there is any place in Islamic text which clearly says that Jesus never married, then I'd like to know. Not for discussion or debate but just for informational purposes.

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Sure I think its not good to make movies about religious people at all.

The concept of liking someone involves not accepting anything but the real thing. Lets say someone never had the oppurtunity to see jis father in real life but he was told about his father how he was. He loves his father and has built an image about his father in his mind.

Now someone starts telling something else about his father who did not even know his father and states that its all his imagination telling how this person's father was....................should he accept this new picture of his father based on someone's imagination?

What islamic or christian or any other religious teachings tell about religious people for centuries should be changed for the sole purpose of fun, mockery, art or making money!

Why say interesting thought?

I have given answer to that. Read my earlier posts or my above paragraph.

Just try not to attribute something which is not proven.

Write all you want for 'entertainment' purpose but not about religious people.

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Dude,

As I said before, I asked what/where does Islamic text (quran, hadith etc) say anything about Jesus never marrying or not having any children. What has that got to do with the movie or the book? I asked a simple question. The answer could be a reference to an Islamic religious text, or it could be that islamic text is quiet on this topic or it could simply be "I don't know". Is the question too difficult to understand?

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Thats not the point, Holy Quran do not say alot about many things such as God himself, now tell me should someone make a movie about God with lot fantasy and escape behind your reasoning that Holy Quran never said that it was not so?

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Well said.

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Do you have problem understanding what is typed before?

I mentioned time and time again that attributing something to religious people which is not taught by the religion is not a good thing and is plain and simple wrong!

Now please read all my posts again before repeating the same question again and again.

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^ Just say you don't know and move on. Why argue so much and be repetitive.

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I KNOW the qualities attributed to the religious people in many movies like this one are not true.

*Can you prove me otherwise, except by using weak argument based upon the imagination of the book writer or cartoonist etc? *

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some one who have'nt read the book or seen the movie ,is in no position to judge it or for that matter have a opinion about it. because then its not your opinion its HAWA HAWAI.
Secondly if christans do a protest i can see why, but for muslims, i mean it is the same idea as of islamic dipiction of christ that he was a human not divine.
christ's divinity is the issue which is the cause of protest among christan community. that secret society is not, blood line is not. coz all that comes after if we first believe he was a human.
I say read the book , it is much more than this issue.

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I have given answer to that.

Criticizing the bad nature of obvious dirty water does not require taking a bath in dirty water first!

Similarly, reading porn book or watching porn movie is not required before criticizing pornography.

A gross misconception.

Muslims have and do equally respect all religious personalitis and prophets. Lies and unconfirmed imagination about them means disrespecting them.

Again, a sensible religious discussion is better than using religion as 'entertainment' purpose and eventually hurting people's sentiments.