Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
To compare this request with pornography is the real mischief. And mockery. Or is baghairathi or zyadathi the right word? Or is it Bhageerati?
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Out of curiosity, what exactly is a “Christian bakery?” As far as I know, Christians don’t have any specific dietary requirements. Calling it that sounds so strange to me.
Did the owners of the bakery in question actually tout their business as a “Christian bakery” or was that label just added by the media? I’m guessing it may be the latter as this took place in Ireland and the Irish, who are proudly Catholic, usually refer to themselves specifically as Catholic, rather than “Christian.”
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
The flaw with using religion as a basis is as follows
Religion has been used to keep blacks outside place of worship. Now it is being used to deny service to gays.
I think this settles the debate. Thanks to my friends across the aisle for finally understanding. You are all right.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
How is that a flaw? Marijuana is legal in Washington, but illegal in Oregon. They will deny you entry in Oregon if you are carrying it. Point is, if you are carrying Dope, dont try to force your right to enter Oregon.
Almost every organized religion says no to homosexuality. If you are a homosexual, stay away from entering the worship houses of those religion. This is a bully thought process that no I dont care about your rules, but I still want an entry to your place of worship, because its my right. No damn it, its not your right. You form your own religion where your god is gay, if you need a religion so badly.
PS: just refering to the Gay part of your example. Black part, I agree was injustice.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
It does not need to be a ‘christian’ bakery. It could be your regular mom and pop family owned business, and they would have right to say not to an erotic cake request. If I own a bakery and someone asks me to bake a cake that looks like male genitalia, I will kick his male genitalia out of my store.
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Southie, as an example, if you ran a bakery and some skinheads came in wanting a cake filled with racial slurs, would you be okay with that?
I agree that there is discrimination against them because they are gay, but if we want to live in a world where people are free to express themselves, however much we may disagree with them, then let them be. You just ignore and move on.
As long as there isn’t any physical harm being done, people should be able to say as stupid a thing as they want, because it will just expose how dumb they are. Is it an ugly thing to do, yes. But is it worth a lawsuit? No.
They gay couple could have, instead, told people in the gay community to boycott that bakery. Suing for things like this is ridiculous IMO.
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What gives you the right to decide your god is gay or not gay? Maybe god is gay. Maybe she is not. You don’t know. Neither do I.
.by the way I brought up black and church example as an analogy. I was not stating at the time gays should be allowed to enter a place of worship. Because it is OBVIOUS to me that they SHOULD be allowed to do so. The fact that you think they shouldn’t be speaks volumes for your Outlook. To me it’s a no brainer.
Pick up things from religious books that unite, not divide.
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There is no ONE solution for every issue. Writing racial slurs and writing a positive message against homophobia are not the same. Boycotting is ONE option. Suing is another.
One should be able to walk and chew gum at the same time.
As I stated in one of the posts, I am not sure abt the legal aspects. But I have no doubt abt the moral aspect. And have no hesitation is labeling those who have been making statements about gays not being conducive with religion as following their religion rituals, but having no clue about what is Moral and decent. You don’t fit that category for decency is spelt partyslims.
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Here you go again. Using eroticism and male genitilia as analogies. Let me help you with one more - pedophilia. That analogy has also been used when discussing gays. Let’s not miss any trick here.
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In my personal capacity, I would support the Baker’s choice to refuse to do business with whoever for whatever reason. It’s extremely silly for me to turn around and sue the baker for refusing to accept my money. I would probably tell all my friends, and family about the incident and encourage them to boycott the baker for refusing to cater to me, i might even write a blog entry about it to vent. But I would feel like a major bully going to court to force a business to conduct a transaction that the business is not willing to conduct, or to make the system punish a business for it.
What anyone else says about the business owner’s decision to refuse to serve a customer is nothing but bandwagon jargons, because the customers can always punish the business by boycotting the business. What’s next? Sue a school for failing to allow Adhan using the PA System because it’s discrimination?
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
You’d think they were promoting Incest = same sex marraige
and Incest is banned in ALL cultures except old Hawian culture to keep the wealth in the Royal Family!
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
And what’s next?
Suing the TV channel for not airing homosexuality ad?
Suing the writer not writing book in favor of homosexuality?
Suing an artist for not making homosexual portraits?
Suing the photographer for not shooting at homosexual wedding?
Oh wait they have done that already…:smack:
N.M. Supreme Court: Photographers Can’t Refuse Gay Weddings | Gleanings | ChristianityToday.com
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Why are we even talking about discrimination here when those people were not denied service based on being homosexuals?
If they had asked for a cake with regular logo, most like they would have been served.
Homosexuals deliberately do these acts to stay in news and other bakeries have been targeted by these loony people .
Colorado Judge: Bakery That Refused Wedding Cake To Same-Sex Couple Broke The Law | ThinkProgress
Oregon Bakery Closes Over Owners’ Refusal to Serve Gay Wedding
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
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Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
@ teggy indeed you may feel it is silly to sue. Or that it’s bullying. Individual feelings vary. The person who gets refused service simply for being gay may feel differently. He she may feel bullying and silliness is being done and shown by the folks who use religion as cover to discriminate. The first step towards spreading hate and discord.
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This has been said many a time before. I was the first to say it and you responded with a condescending meme crack. The same reasons was given by several other members and they were to no avail. I’ll say it again: You don’t know for sure if he was refused for being gay. It’s the message; the message and its purpose is the source of contention. If a gay couple walks into that bakery holding hands and order a birthday cake in rainbow piping that doesn’t not advocate support for a cause the baker feels is against his religious teachings, he might not have denied service.
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If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it is a duck.
.you can have ur delusions and eat it too.
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by the way what’s with the obsession with several people said it so it must be true. Make ur point. And let it stand on its own. Don’t lean on other people’s support or consensus. I offer this as free advice. Good luck
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Bella and Southie have merged message and customers into one thing. So cute, haina? They cannot fathom the possibility that their could be a separation. They cannot fathom the possibility that the baker, a follower of an organized religion, may not be as rigid or tyrannical in his views and service as they believe him to be. Southie, it is not the baker, but the customer who wants it “my way or the highway”…and you are showing support for that ideaology whilst fighting against it. None of us who are supporting the baker believe that he should deny service to a gays or prevent them from entering his shop or hang a sign saying “no gays allowed.” You’re not advocating a “everybody compromise to live in harmony” stance…you’re not advocating compromise at all…you’re advocating imposition.