Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
And that is what makes her a special person. You simply won’t get it.
By the way, someone brought up “agenda”. The event was to promote awareness against homophobia. Evil agenda indeed. Something God would be against - the awareness promotion that is.
As stated earlier, what goes around comes around. Those who mock events such as this and call it an “agenda” will get their comeuppance.
The “zyadathi” part - of course customer could have gone elsewhere. But u got to stand and fight discrimination. This fight has been fought by liberals for Muslims where they r a minority, for Hindus where they r minority and for gays - who r minorities everywhere.
Thank goodness we don’t have people blinded by religion in charge for the most part. Clear case for why religion should be separate from govt.
We get up in arms when someone remotely insults our religion. Issue fatwas. But equating this with Nazis is funny. Literally taking shots at people just because of their orientation is kosher. For shame.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
What you think is ‘mischievous’ or an ‘agenda’ is subjective.. In South Africa or even the US before that some people would have said the same about black people wanting to be served by racist business owners.. Here in England there used to be signs up in houses up for rent saying ‘no dogs or Irish.’
Aren’t many here on GS up in arms when they hear about housing complexes in India which don’t want Muslims.. They don’t say ‘Oh that’s ok because it’s their personal beliefs, Muslims should just go live somewhere else.’
We can’t expect expect or demand our rights then go round discriminating against others..
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
^ Wouldn’t you be discriminating against me if you force me to do something that is against my religion/beliefs? Having a Muslim neighbor is not against Hindu religion.
Do Muslims have a right to refuse to sell alcohol laced cakes to customers?
How about a Muslim goes and asks the baker to make him a cake v/s a Muslim who would ask him to write “Support Iran against the Great Satan” on his cake? Can the baker refuse the cake? If refused, which case would be discrimination, first or second?
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
^ false equivalency has been ruling the roost lately.
Not long ago, some Christian churches wouldn’t allow blacks in. Something abt Caine or another character in the Bible. If someone’s religious belief states he can’t serve Muslims is that ok?
A temple.in India sued a Christian actress for entering certain area of the temple. Is that OK?
I don’t know abt legality of this case. But in terms of decency, I have no doubt what the right and moral side is.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Not long time ago, Blacks were not allowed to do a lot of things. That was not okay. Not justified on religious grounds.
Yes. Muslims should not insist on being served there.
If the religion forbade Christians from entering that area, then it is okay not to allow them to enter. Non-Muslims cannot enter the Grand Mosque in Mecca. Not okay, since it is not justified on the basis of religious tradition.
Again, they were not refused the cake because they were Gay and therefore false equivalency drips from your questions.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
All I can say about this topic is ‘ik to chori, ooper se seena zori’. Is this the latest definition of freedom? I’ll make you uncomfortable and then will let you do what you don;t like. If you don;t oblige, I’ll call it discrimination. chit bhi meri pat bhi meri?
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
They were not refused the cake because they were gays. They were refused because they wanted to bakery to put something on the cake that the bakers didn’t like to do. If you cannot fathom the difference, I can’t continue here.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
"There would not be any debate if the cake had depicted an anti-racism or anti-ageism slogan, nor should it require intervention from the Equality Commission for this cake for Anti-Homophobia Day.
“It is ridiculous for this bakery to suggest that they would have to endorse the campaign.”
Dear sir,
I agree. On behalf of my religious friends, please accept my best wishes for a very good cause : Anti-Homophobia day.
On their behalf, let me wish your organization the very best as you fight for equal rights. My religious friends definitely are for equal rights for all, I am sure.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Why do you feel the need to often announce to the GS populace how special she is, how wise she is? You even felt the need to tell us how you’d rush to rescue her if she were called a bigot but not me…as though we’re desperately awaiting your saving.
I understand there are cliques on GS and we all have friends we support from time to time, but you take it to a whole other level…that the frequency is just odd.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
I owe you no answer. You are entitled to your opinion. I could not care less what level I have taken this to. But I will correct u on two thi gs
bella does not need ANYONE rescuing her. Your side of the aisle has attempted to paint this as such. Even gave me knighthood for which I am grateful
I didn’t say I won’t “rescue” you if u r called a bigot. First I don’t think u , just as bell , need rescuing. So cut it out - using that phrase. Second, if I see anyone attacked unfairly, I will give my 2 cents. Third, in this context I called ur post bigoted. And I stand by it.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Okay so stand by your opinion that I’m bigoted, doesn’t bother me. My opinions are shaped by my religion, and if you find them to be bigoted…then I feel it’s more a conflict between you and Allah than it is with me.
I had been debating back and forth with Bella respectfully when you came along with your meme barb. I gave you a taste of that medicine, after which you went out of control and started making judgments on my overall character and religion. I didn’t do that to you and Bella in the thread. However, in almost every post that you bashed or insulted or mocked me…Bella came along and gave you a like…which is basically a ganging up; not surprisingly she didn’t see your instigation or your transgressions; it was defense based on more than just similarity of thought, also based on what appears to be a disturbing sense of loyalty. Interesting.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
Then I am sure you read that they asked the bakers to write something that the bakers were not comfortable doing. And you probably also read that they took the refund and went away satisfied. This lawsuit is sheer mischief. This is simply the LBGT community flexing their lobbying and economic power to trump religious freedoms. Frankly this is not about discrimination. This is about freedom of religion. The question is, can the bakers be forced to do something that is against their beliefs.
Re: Christian bakers refuse gay wedding cake - face legal action
^In the video, the baker said that they have declined to make cakes requesting pornographic images. I wonder if those customers filed a lawsuit. If it is well-known that this is a religious and conservative bakery, then I wonder if such requests are a deliberate mischief/mockery of the beliefs of the bakery.
