Chinese help for Pakistan Railway worries India

mo293 · June 4, 2009, 4:27pm

They don't have to when they get what they wanted

Punjabee_in_USA · June 4, 2009, 4:54pm

And what exactly was that ??

mo293 · June 4, 2009, 6:50pm

Ah, money talks, being a sattelite state was more then enough.

aam_bandha · June 4, 2009, 7:19pm

Satellite state ... ally ... whatever you may call it, the point is do they deliver in a crunch situation !!!!!!

1971 Indo - Russian pact kept China and US out of war ...... this was the "crunch" situation when "allies" should have been backing Pakistan .... but instead let it be mauled by India !!!!!

A friend in need in a friend indeed !!!!!! Baki saab bate hai ........

Punjabee_in_USA · June 4, 2009, 7:31pm

Very true :k:

mo293 · June 4, 2009, 8:21pm

Ah leave it to an Indian to give a positive spin and divert the discussion. So how cheap did you sell or is that all figment of KGB immagination. or did you not pay enough to let India be mauled by China.

aam_bandha · June 4, 2009, 8:34pm

What change and what positive spin ... do enlighten us what the great KGB was able to "buy" in India .... do let us know how many Indian citizens were bundled into planes and sent to soviet union ...... :D

There is a match going on between India and China and Pakistan insists on being a "ball boy" .........

mo293 · June 4, 2009, 8:41pm

Oh I don't have to tell any one that India was a Russkie sattelite state or do you think that suitcases loaded with dollars were charity from the reds out of goodness of their hearts.

P.S: Now what has selling india cheap got to do with planes and bundles or matches... Just leave it to an India to squirm and give it a spin. What next, starvation and suicides in India are gone to jero, won't be surprised if you on your high horse make that claim next. LOL

simplyme · June 5, 2009, 3:32am

And you came to agreement with them by bending over.

simplyme · June 5, 2009, 3:37am

Seriously do you believe a former KGB officical who wanted some free publicity so that his book would sell.

Croquet · June 5, 2009, 4:35am

Re: Chinese help for Pakistan Railway worries India

indian concern is the legality of this venture since it is no man’s land?yeah right
the fact that chinese kick em around on border skirmish has nothing to do with it.
india is epitome of UN regulation in this part of continent.
and best of all let us all remind each other a “strong , independant pakistan is in india’s interest”

thanks for posting vigoratus

mYsTeRiOuS_gUy · June 5, 2009, 8:52am

GS Idol - Lets hear you (Part II)

China is surrounding India from all sides. China is supporting Maoists separatists in Nepal, it practically controls Myanmar. Look the way it is entering Bangladesh. China is providing weapons to Sri Lanka to fight Tamil separatists.

China has cornered India from all sides.

BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | Chinese woo business in Bangladesh

**China is seeking to boost ties abroad through trade and investment, particularly in Asia. But as Duncan Bartlett found on a recent visit to Bangladesh, not all Chinese businesspeople are versed in the finer points of diplomacy. **
Bangladesh grows mangoes, jackfruit and coconuts

Li Li Lang’s verdict on the Bangladeshis is harsh. “They are slow, lazy and dull in the head,” she told me as she served up a plate of noodles at her restaurant in Dhaka.
“Too much rice. It makes them sleepy,” she complained while directing a severe look at her Bangladeshi waiter.
Li Li was born in Hong Kong but moved to Bangladesh 26 years ago, after marrying her Bengali husband, by whom she has two daughters.
Until recently she was a beautician, and at the age of 52 remains proud of her slim figure and stylish make-up.
She switched to catering after winning praise for her skill with sauces and a wok. Her words may have been rather bitter but her cooking was delicious.
“It takes three Bangladeshis to do the work of one Chinese,” she proclaimed, at which point the poor waiter hurriedly jumped to his feet to refill my water glass.
Despite her apparent frustration with her adopted land, Li Li Lang intends to stay. She has even converted to Islam and taken a Bengali name, Shamreen Hassan.
Her Chinese friends, she told me, have largely left the country but their nation’s ties with it remain strong.
Grand projects
Take the China-Bangladesh Friendship Bridges which span the capital’s rivers. There are six in all, compared to just one UK-Bangladesh Friendship Bridge.
The Chinese bridges have made movement of goods and people easier

I crossed one of the Chinese bridges en route to the northern town of Bogra.
The traffic was chaotic… wobbly rickshaws, three-wheeled taxis and battered buses with passengers on the roof.
But without that bridge, everything would have had to make a long and hazardous detour along the banks of the polluted river below.
Then there is the great hall of the China Bangladesh Friendship Centre in Dhaka’s Sher-e-Banglanagar district.
It is used for exhibitions, concerts and political rallies. China built it in 2002 at a cost of about £35m ($56m).
Generating goodwill
When I visited, it was hosting a convention on agriculture.
Chinese merchants were selling rice to Bangladeshi farmers. They had even brought a cookery book.
Chinese merchants see a huge potential market in Bangladesh

Some nations pump aid money into Bangladesh for schemes involving education or healthcare, but the Chinese like to build big things that people can see and use.
They also like schemes which find favour with local politicians.
At the moment they are sorting out accommodation for members of the Bangladeshi parliament. If an MP needs a second home in Dhaka, away from his constituency, the Chinese can help with the cost.
It seems that expense receipts can be submitted to Beijing with little chance of a scandal in the press.
Keenest prices
The political goodwill this nurtures creates an environment in which Chinese companies thrive.
Bangladesh does not manufacture much, except for clothes, so it imports large quantities of goods from China, from motorbikes and generators to soy sauce and socks.

Mohammad Hossain sells Chinese clocks and watches from a small stall in a shopping centre in Gulshan. “My customers really care about price,” he told me.
“We could sell Japanese clocks and they would last for 10 years. These Chinese ones only last for two or three years but they are five times cheaper.”
Shi Hong Shen, a Chinese businessman who works in telecoms, concurs. “Our Bangladeshi customers always want the lowest price,” he told me over an ice cream in the lobby of a smart hotel.
“At the moment we can beat our foreign competitors but it’s getting tough. That’s why we’re focusing now more on quality and service.”
There is also a thriving market for imported weapons.
The Bangladeshi military is equipped with Chinese tanks and fighter planes - not that the Chinese want to encourage war or insurgency, they are keen that peace endures and the economy grows.
A few years from now, Bangladesh may be able to develop new industries. It should then be able to extract the vast reserves of natural gas and coal that lie beneath the land, just the sort of commodities that China would value.
Hand of friendship
When commerce is over, it is time to relax. Not that Dhaka is much of a party destination.
Taboos against alcohol and mixing between the sexes limit the social life. But there are places foreigners can enter that Bangladeshis avoid and one of them is the Happy Coffee Sing Along club.
The club does not, in fact, serve coffee but it does have beer and an imported spirit called Shochu.
The staff and all the customers, apart from me, were East Asian.
Mr Kim from Korea took the microphone. He has a tender voice, well suited to songs of seduction.
As he sang, he held a Chinese hostess tightly in his arms. He claimed he wanted to marry her but I suspected their acquaintance would not last.
However, for the Bangladeshis, the Chinese offer of a deep and long-term friendship seems sincere.

Wow that’s a lot of development, great news for Bangladesh.
Good on China!!!

mo293 · June 5, 2009, 1:27pm

yeah phree publicity, stripping George Fernandez at Dullus airport twice *"on official visit and under full protocol" * was a publicity stunt too. They just want to make a bollywood movie. LMAO...

Punjabee_in_USA · June 5, 2009, 2:17pm

I don't see your point, dude.

India might have been a Soviet satellite state (per Mitrokhin archives) but is prospering and doing better than Russia today.

Pakistan on the other hand, was controlled by the US and is still controlled by the US. And lets not even talk about growth & development :)

So now lets come back to the topic at hand, shall we ?

mo293 · June 5, 2009, 2:30pm

Doing better then Russia... LMAO... enuff said..... growth and devlopment... of what starvations living conditons or perhaps slums?...

Please slow down at this rate you will be doing better then mighty ol US by tomorrow if not already!.

yeah now go back to your old subject, that is rantings and ravings.

thx

Punjabee_in_USA · June 5, 2009, 2:38pm

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aam_bandha · June 5, 2009, 3:21pm

Perhaps you have been inside the "cave" for a long time .... go outside and try to do some reading .... for starters ... look at the top 20 richest men in the world ... see the Indians net worth ... just in top 20. Of course you have the option of staying inside the "cave" and beliveing what you are fed :D

mo293 · June 5, 2009, 3:31pm

Abay oh genius, there is no comparision with Russia never was never will be coz you lot live on a different planet. Few billionars don't change the living conditions of 1B the day you learn this perhaps then we can talk.

aam_bandha · June 5, 2009, 3:40pm

Of course it will not change in a day ..... till 30 years back China had a huge population living below poverty line .... they worked hard and have reached a place which is envy of west.

India is on similar path ... already signs are progress are there to be seen .... globally India is being talked about as a future economy to look at .....it will take maybe another 10-15 or even 20 years but it is on that path and that is what matters !!!!!!

Last ten years have changed lives of millions another 10-20 will change lives of more ...... Rome was not built in a day .... it is the path that matters. That is something that is lost in Pakistan .... they are still an aid - depended economy and it seems all they care is how much they can do damage to India rather then what good they can do for their people !!!!!

Med911 · June 5, 2009, 3:49pm

More of your homoercotic Indian fantasies...