Chinese help for Pakistan Railway worries India

China is surrounding India from all sides. China is supporting Maoists separatists in Nepal, it practically controls Myanmar. Look the way it is entering Bangladesh. China is providing weapons to Sri Lanka to fight Tamil separatists.

China has cornered India from all sides.

BBC NEWS | Programmes | From Our Own Correspondent | Chinese woo business in Bangladesh

**China is seeking to boost ties abroad through trade and investment, particularly in Asia. But as Duncan Bartlett found on a recent visit to Bangladesh, not all Chinese businesspeople are versed in the finer points of diplomacy. **
Bangladesh grows mangoes, jackfruit and coconuts

Li Li Lang’s verdict on the Bangladeshis is harsh. “They are slow, lazy and dull in the head,” she told me as she served up a plate of noodles at her restaurant in Dhaka.
“Too much rice. It makes them sleepy,” she complained while directing a severe look at her Bangladeshi waiter.
Li Li was born in Hong Kong but moved to Bangladesh 26 years ago, after marrying her Bengali husband, by whom she has two daughters.
Until recently she was a beautician, and at the age of 52 remains proud of her slim figure and stylish make-up.
She switched to catering after winning praise for her skill with sauces and a wok. Her words may have been rather bitter but her cooking was delicious.
“It takes three Bangladeshis to do the work of one Chinese,” she proclaimed, at which point the poor waiter hurriedly jumped to his feet to refill my water glass.
Despite her apparent frustration with her adopted land, Li Li Lang intends to stay. She has even converted to Islam and taken a Bengali name, Shamreen Hassan.
Her Chinese friends, she told me, have largely left the country but their nation’s ties with it remain strong.
Grand projects
Take the China-Bangladesh Friendship Bridges which span the capital’s rivers. There are six in all, compared to just one UK-Bangladesh Friendship Bridge.
The Chinese bridges have made movement of goods and people easier

I crossed one of the Chinese bridges en route to the northern town of Bogra.
The traffic was chaotic… wobbly rickshaws, three-wheeled taxis and battered buses with passengers on the roof.
But without that bridge, everything would have had to make a long and hazardous detour along the banks of the polluted river below.
Then there is the great hall of the China Bangladesh Friendship Centre in Dhaka’s Sher-e-Banglanagar district.
It is used for exhibitions, concerts and political rallies. China built it in 2002 at a cost of about £35m ($56m).
Generating goodwill
When I visited, it was hosting a convention on agriculture.
Chinese merchants were selling rice to Bangladeshi farmers. They had even brought a cookery book.
Chinese merchants see a huge potential market in Bangladesh

Some nations pump aid money into Bangladesh for schemes involving education or healthcare, but the Chinese like to build big things that people can see and use.
They also like schemes which find favour with local politicians.
At the moment they are sorting out accommodation for members of the Bangladeshi parliament. If an MP needs a second home in Dhaka, away from his constituency, the Chinese can help with the cost.
It seems that expense receipts can be submitted to Beijing with little chance of a scandal in the press.
Keenest prices
The political goodwill this nurtures creates an environment in which Chinese companies thrive.
Bangladesh does not manufacture much, except for clothes, so it imports large quantities of goods from China, from motorbikes and generators to soy sauce and socks.

Mohammad Hossain sells Chinese clocks and watches from a small stall in a shopping centre in Gulshan. “My customers really care about price,” he told me.
“We could sell Japanese clocks and they would last for 10 years. These Chinese ones only last for two or three years but they are five times cheaper.”
Shi Hong Shen, a Chinese businessman who works in telecoms, concurs. “Our Bangladeshi customers always want the lowest price,” he told me over an ice cream in the lobby of a smart hotel.
“At the moment we can beat our foreign competitors but it’s getting tough. That’s why we’re focusing now more on quality and service.”
There is also a thriving market for imported weapons.
The Bangladeshi military is equipped with Chinese tanks and fighter planes - not that the Chinese want to encourage war or insurgency, they are keen that peace endures and the economy grows.
A few years from now, Bangladesh may be able to develop new industries. It should then be able to extract the vast reserves of natural gas and coal that lie beneath the land, just the sort of commodities that China would value.
Hand of friendship
When commerce is over, it is time to relax. Not that Dhaka is much of a party destination.
Taboos against alcohol and mixing between the sexes limit the social life. But there are places foreigners can enter that Bangladeshis avoid and one of them is the Happy Coffee Sing Along club.
The club does not, in fact, serve coffee but it does have beer and an imported spirit called Shochu.
The staff and all the customers, apart from me, were East Asian.
Mr Kim from Korea took the microphone. He has a tender voice, well suited to songs of seduction.
As he sang, he held a Chinese hostess tightly in his arms. He claimed he wanted to marry her but I suspected their acquaintance would not last.
However, for the Bangladeshis, the Chinese offer of a deep and long-term friendship seems sincere.

^^ so the pure development work in Bangladesh done by China is a cause of concern for india? hmmm..

And again, Pakistan should not worry at all about all the strategical work done by india in Afghanistan in the name of "development"... hmmm.

And why not. We are a responsible member of the international community with allies across the globe. Why shouldnt we allow our allies bases?

Allies :D .........

lol... Indian double standard:)

But we shouldnt stand in the way. India could only afford to invest in Afghanistan. China is the real heavy weight in the region.

Offcourse, like Saudi Arabia are allies of the US, as are the Germans, and the Japanese and the British and the Turks...

See we dont have an over inflated ego the way Indians do. You guys honestly over estimate your own worth. Ironic for a country who population is half starved.
:(

Hmm … meeting of “allies”

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Well, you cant fight a global war on terror without support from your allies around the globe.

Regardless, you miss the point as always.

As an Ally of the US, there is absolutely no reason not to allow the US a base in Pakistan, so long as it doesnt impinge on our own intrests.

See, because we dont have an over inflated sense of our own worth as the Indians do, we are far more open to foreign coocoperation then the ego driven Indian. :slight_smile:

hahaha then u guys will ask those chiense to convert and grow beard. will be fun to see that

I have read enough of your posts to know how much you really care about Pakistan and it's security concerns.
Jealousy is not because we need help but it's because China is helping us :)

If you are concerned about yourself then we don't really care.

Very true... And the next thing you guys would be gloating over is how magnanimous Pakistan is when they donate land again to China. I think you guys would have definitely gloated the last time Pakistan gifted land to China.

If only leaders of Pakistan had kept their "national" interests in mind while being the so called "allies" ....... take the history of Pakistan for the last 50 years and you will see how "personal" interests of these leaders have led to being so called "allies" of US.

Take a lesson in history ......

Re: Chinese help for Pakistan Railway worries India

^^ Look whos talking...

Focus on "what" rather then "who" !!!!!!

Hmmm... What did we get from our alliances? After we were robbed of what was ours militarily, we turned to the US, which provided the bulk of Pakistans defense needs. This allowed us to not be over run by an overly aggresive midget across our eastern border.

Our alliance with China has seen the development of countless developmnet programs including the likes of Gawadar sea port.

Thats the point of alliances, they provide support in times of need.

Perhaps you need to go back and re read your history. And this time I suggest you read real history, not the propaganda being spewed by your illustrious schools.

We are allies of the Chinese. We came to the agreement with them.

Unlike you, we can actually sit across the table and discuss thing in a civilized manner.
You recall your issues with China resulted in a full invasion by China, in which you were rightfully humiliated and humbled. :)

Its no wonder your soiling yourselves now. The last thing India would want is to be humiliated again.

Some how they forget how much they have relied on the Russians over the years.
Despite their vaunted indigenous programs, they still have to rely on outside help for all their defense needs.

Oh they sold to Russkies / soviets dirt cheap. ex-KGB officer Vasili Mitrokhin wrote a book and revealed "whole country was for sale" .. Wonder what is CIA paying under the table.

Well let me give you a free lesson in Pakistani history ..... In 1971 when Indian forces were "driving" through east Pakistan and the leadership was crying for help ... where were the Chinese ???? Perhaps the only time they "should" have helped .... so what makes you belive that they will respond when Pakistan is in dire need of help in future !!!!!

Gwadar was built keeping Chineese interests in mind .... the Chinese are offering similar assisstance to other countries too !!!! So what is special about this relationship.

Ruskies never got to decide who rules India ..... and that is what matters !!!!