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These westerners are so two faced, on one hand they say media should have freedom of speech whilst not long ago they were complainin about Arab media showin British doldiers bein killed? What the hell?
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Two faced is making heroes out of homicide bombers who kill in the name of Muhammed and then having a hissy fit when someone (who doesn't even worship your prophet) draws his picture. I am sure Muhammed is so proud of your hypocrisy, misplaced priorities and misunderstanding of his teachings.
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seminole i am sure that you knew exactly how muslims would react at the cartoons and I am sure the journalist did too....i am not too well versed in the politics so i dont know what purpose this strife may serve in the near future (I could be wrong and it could very well be an unplanned thing i.e. the journalist did not expect such a huge outcry)......but printing of these cartoons by danes and then later by french shows the "do whateva u wanna do, i dont give a damn" attitude on their behalf.
as far as protest is concerned, just as the danish govt is not to be blamed for what the newspaper did, muslims as a whole(or any particular muslim state) should not be blamed if a couple of protestors get pissed and pelt a building with stones as a reaction. The state or imams can do their part and urge for restraint but cannot be blamed if the people do not listen to them because of the sensitivity of the issue.
In the end i wonder how such people ( the journalist) fall asleep at night knowing THEY are directly responsible for the deaths of some.
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^ Great, but none of that addresses my post. No one has once addressed this issue:
Two faced is making heroes out of homicide bombers who kill in the name of Muhammed and then having a hissy fit when someone (who doesn't even worship your prophet) draws his picture.
I ask, which is more insulting to his teachings? Killing in his name or drawing his picture?
Why the outrage over a cartoon but no outrage and even hero worship for those who slash throats in his name?
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What are you talking about? None of us here (well most of us don't) make "heroes" out of suicide bombers. Plenty of people have and do regularly condemn killing innocent or even guilty people in the name of religion. It's a disgusting act, but again, you choose to disregard it. Yeah, we don't go chanting on the streets and set fire to buildings to get our point across cause that simply isn't the way. Is that the kind of anger you want to see displayed to show our disgust at killing people in the name of religion? We do it peacefully, but alas, who cares about our peaceful approach. What kind of outrage would you like to see before you choose to recognize it? Words alone and debating with these "fanatics" doesn't seem to make you happy. In case you haven't realised, the people who commit murder are simply out of control. I don't know why you think we have any control over them and their actions.
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If you can have that kind of anger over a cartoon, then YES, that is the kind of anger that should be displayed when someone defames your prophet by killing in his name.
Why are words alone all the terrorists get, but a non-Muslim journalist sets the world afire? Sorry, that is a crock of crap after the carrying on about this incident.
It's not that it is disregarded by me. In light of the cartoon fiasco, it appears as if Muslims are disregarding it.
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Who is displaying that kind of anger Seminole? The fanatics in the ME. None of us here went crazy like that in either instance. Why are WE being held liable what a small percentage of arabs are doing in the ME? You should be preaching your rhetoric on a fundementalist site, not here where most of us are peace loving individuals. 
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i think lots of muslims agree that it is wrong to kill over the cartoons.....and condemn those that do it. but again dont u think the west recognizes that these F*ed up minds exist and that they look for an excuse to exercise their beastiality? killing is the biggest of all sins ...period. a much bigger sin than depicting a prophet's cartoon.
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Two faced is making heroes out of homicide bombers who kill in the name of Muhammed and then having a hissy fit when someone (who doesn't even worship your prophet) draws his picture.
I ask, which is more insulting to his teachings? Killing in his name or drawing his picture?
Why the outrage over a cartoon but no outrage and even hero worship for those who slash throats in his name?
Seminole,
Forget it, you are not going to get any satisfaction with such probing questions.
The same Muslim followers who are rallying against western standards have yet to challenge Saudi Govt for desecrating or destroying holy relics. There it becomes shirk practices which need to be eradicated, no matter if it was the house where Prophet resided, tree under which he took Bayth of his followers, houses of his immediate family members. All of this can be destoyed and replaced with parking lots, hotels etc etc, yet no Muslim Govt or entity has the courage to protest and burn Saudi embassies. Reason: Petro Dollars.
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But there are many people on this site who are *aghast *at the cartoon, posting angry thread after angry thread. I have never seen that kind of anger over the terrorists that defame the prophet.
But in the bigger picture, the Muslim world is on fire over this incident and yet can only muster relatively invisible, ‘peaceful protests’ over the much more heinous crime of killing.
And let’s face it, if there was as much anger in the Muslim world over the terrorists who defame the prophet, there never would have been these insulting cartoons.
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^ sumthing reminds me of Gujrat and the babri mosque. Sure it's not appropriate to kill in the name of religion.
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and oh some1's forgetting what the mutiny in 1857 was all about, what turned mangal Pnaday in a national hero.
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And in Iran a prominent newspaper said it was going to hold a competition for cartoons on the Holocaust in reaction to European newspapers publishing the prophet drawings.
Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/10705393/
Lets see what happens next…
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I am amongst the ones who strongly oppose the cartoons; The act is extremely offensive!!!
Defending the act by making it a part of freedom of speech or merely a joke is disgraceful & unacceptable
As is the killings of innocent people around the world by anyone!!!
there is a war going on against terrorism; where did it start; 911; there are countless documentaries around the world and by Americans themselves portraying 911 and whether it was osama the terrorist or American government itself!!!
Once u start a war; u do not expect the enemy not to fight back…they are fighting..they are called terrorists…
turning this war into saying that the terrorists kill or fight the occupiers/or kill innocents in the name of the Prophet(pbuh) is not fair…they’re killing innocents cuz their innocents are being killed..
Someone hits u, u hit back
Simple sa funda hai
On both sides in this war, innocents are being killed…which I condemn as much as nething….if we count the number of innocents killed, definitely the number of innocent muslims killed is much higher…
term terrorist… is given to any muslim using a weapon; be it a Palestinian firing at an Israeli tank; an Iraqi or Afghani fighting the occupying forces; or a bomber exploding a bus in Pakistan and killing other muslims; all are called terrorists…
suicide bomber killing Israeli army is absolutely right…
suicide bomber killing innocents in an Israeli bus is absolutely wrong..why did he do it? Cuz he saw his parents, children, innocents in his country dying!! Not necessarily cuz he thinks the Prophet(pbuh) taught so..
really, there is a much bigger and wider picture to everything that we see and are told..
peace!!!
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Yes, the cartoon equates Islam with violence. So to protest the cartoon there is, well, violence. Pure genius.
Nothing could have proved the cartoon more accurate. The response to the cartoon is what will be remembered, not the cartoon.
While you guys are defending some obscure point, millions of images are flooding the globe showing a gross violent over-reaction. These images are far more powerful than you think, portraying Muslims as violent adolescents prone to fits of anger rather than relying on intelligent dialog. I can see Netayahu in his next meeting saying, "Do you see what we have to put up with?"
Are you people completely oblivious to the damage that is being done here? This is a public relations nightmare for Muslims. And most of you are either too stupid or too stubborn to realize it... Sheesh.
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^-- Listen there is no compromise on the insult of Prophet (PBUH), we don’t care what you think and won’t care how many were killed. That’s you had to think before posting pictures. If you know nothing about the reaction of Muslims on it, then you must know it before. Now we really don’t care about what you think or not think. So it’s not a good trick to dodge Muslims showing them new pictures, and try to make them embarrass. What is embarrassing for a Muslim now is to sit silent and do nothing!
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look at these americans and westernize muslims..huh....
really some1 rightly said tht common sense is not common....these people will neva understand y hammas won the palestine election and y muslims support mujahiddins...
these goras r the biggest terrorists...where eva they go,they cause destruction....
muslims should destroy all the embassies of norway and denmark...banned their products...kick out all of their people
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these goras r the biggest terrorists...where eva they go,they cause destruction....
muslims should destroy all the embassies of norway and denmark...banned their products...kick out all of their people
Your views are far more extreme and insulting than those of any cartoon artist. No one has suggested burning down Muslim buildings or kicking them out of non-Muslim lands. And no one is calling them brownies are easily as you use gora to stereotype the west.
This is the attitude that the cartoon was satririzing. And you don't even get it.
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Kaleem,
I fully intended to follow up on this thread, but frankly, it has run off into too many tangents for me to be able to effectively argue my point......
so I'm begging out.
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^--He really doesn’t have to match his view to you frame. He is provoked to use this attitude, and if you are so concerned about the Muslims attitude then work on it prior to get the un-wanted result. Or is the result they wanted to see and make Muslims look worse among non-Muslims? Well who cares, we are fine and we are best nation.