This happened last year but all of a sudden it’s gained so much attention…
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It's tottaly wrong. If they had any respect for Prophet (S.A.W.), they wouldn't, in the first place, be depicting it in cartoons.
Area Muslims React With Tempered Anger
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/02/04/AR2006020401145_pf.html
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aah finally Luxury Item sees the light. Did you join in on any protests?
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luxury item: well said!
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Dear Mullah Cat Woman,
Not at all, I couldn't be bothered. : D
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The thing is....well in countries that protect their freedom of speech, there are many rude "cartoons" such as this. They are rude to religions, to political leaders, etc etc etc. NO ONE is exempt from the brutality of the cartoonists. It really isnt meant I think, to be quite as insulting as its been taken to be. I truly can see both sides....You have to understand the western type of culture where almost anything goes and you'll be able to be more understanding of this - NOT that you have to agree with it. The Muslims who are so very outraged really cant see beyond THEIR culture and outlook. Yes, I do see how extremely insulting to Muslims this whole thing is but I can also see that it truly wasnt meant as the extreme insult that it was taken to be....
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^au contraire, I think the cartoons WERE actually meant for the sole purpose of insulting the Muslims. I think the editor was fully aware that Muslims would be extremely insulted...
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Mama, how can you say that it isn't meant to be insulting? The "cartoons" depicted the Prophet (pbuh) with a turbin on his head which was really a bomb, another one with devil's horns over his head and another saying that he ran out of virgins. What does that make all us followers of Islam? Demons? Devils? Really, where is the satire and humour? How is that NOT offensive, rude and insulting? Maybe people of other faiths are quite used to their religions being mocked, but why should we be content with sitting back and allowing it to happen too? Obviously, they are going to think twice before they publish such trash again.
Just imagine similar cartoons were made about your loved ones, or your children. I am sure you would be offended and wouldn't just say, 'oh it was a joke'. It is extremely hard to not take offence to this and sit quietly, especially when it's open season on attacking Muslims which seems to have become acceptable pretty much everywhere.
Yesterday, the Vatican released a statement saying that, yes, there is "freedom of expression/speech" in the western world, but that doesn't mean you can deliberately start offending people. For God's sakes, be responsible and act responsibly. This was just such a stupid thing to do and extremely irresponsible.
This whole act was a deliberate 'dare'. The journalist was dared by others to print and publish these cartoons cause they knew it would offend Muslims and obviously weren't willing to accept the challenge themselves. Most of them flat out refused cause they didn't want to cause offence. Well, one journalist took the dare, being all brave, and now look what has happened. It's not as if he didn't know this would upset a lot of people.
Fact is, you will never see cartoons depicting any Jewish people or important figures in Jewish history so horribly cause that would be wrong and racist. You won’t see cartoons depicting blacks or Malcolm X/Martin Luther King as rapists and thieves since that is also racist. Yet, it is totally acceptable to depict Muslims and an extremely important Muslim figure in such a disgusting manner. If anything, it is being applauded as "freedom of expression".
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^^
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Well said Mehnaz...
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Well said Mehnaz.
understanding? :-) Are you sure you can see both sides of the picture? Freedom of speech is a wonderful thing but it could be appalling when abused. Agree?
The cartoonist abused his right of expression. If you are not willing to draw the line when it comes to freedom of speech, you are opening a big can of worms. One only realizes it when it hits home. It's great to sound all tolerant and open-minded but you don't run over other people in the process. It's a selfish and shameful act if you do.
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brother imam majid's statement on this is right on the mark. we as muslims blow things out of proportion. burning embassies is certainly not the answer to this. to be fair to the western media they have also poked and made fun of other religious figures be it moses or jesus.
also the heads of states of muslim countries should put things into perspective rather than making a big deal out of this. in imam majid's words prophet mohammad (pbuh) himself was subjected to a treatment a lot worst than this and his actions were certainly no where near as violent as present day muslims.
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^^ the western media is taking advantage by portraying All Muslims as violent, whereas if you see these protests (are started peacefully by most) but very few people who are ignorant/lack knowledge/little patience, burn flags, give life threats, and burn the embassies.
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So, the onus is on muslims to understand the western culture, when they were the ones who were made the object of insult? So the insultee has to be sensitive of the insulter’s culture, and not the other way around?
Meanwhile in the year 2050 somewhere in Westernia:
(non-westerner)–> Why are you trying to seduce my wife and abuse my children, and insult my religion.
(westerner)–>You have to understand the western type of culture where almost anything goes and you’ll be able to be more understanding of this. If this is any consolation, you can seduce my wife, abuse my children and mock at Jesus.
–> But i dont want to. Just leave me alone.
—> You people are really a bunch of insular bigots who cannot see beyond their culture and outlook. Now, where is your wife?
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does that make it ok?
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It really isnt meant I think, to be quite as insulting as its been taken to be.
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showing a bomb in His turban ,isnt it an attack on islam?
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I truly can see both sides....
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a rare thing indeeed.
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You have to understand the western type of culture where almost anything goes and you'll be able to be more understanding of this - NOT that you have to agree with it. The Muslims who are so very outraged really cant see beyond THEIR culture and outlook.
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so wen in rome do as the romans do?
Legislation that would make Holocaust-denial committed overseas an offense under Israeli legal jurisdiction was approved unanimously in first reading by the Knesset on Tuesday.The passage of the measure would enable Israel to demand the extradition of Holocaust-deniers for prosecution.
shall we do the same?in europe press isnt 'free' to deny the holocaust,thats special treatment,why cant we have it, coz now we have the osama-9/11 flag as our identity?
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forget holy figures, even if you mock events close to people'e hearts, you can offend people.
take a step back and just think how public reaction would be if someone made cartoons mocking the holocaust, mocking the tower collpases on 9/11, or mocking.
as muslims we respect all biblical/quranic religious figures. It would not take a rocket scientist to start mocking events, actions or people in either jewish or christian history. You will not see muslims mocking them, otherwise things from virgin birth to self circumcision could have been easy easy targets. But its simply wrong. Even some of my misguided fellow muslims who go and insult other religious figures such as in hinduism, are wrong to do so and should be ashamed.
The response to this has been incorrect imho while the clear message should have been sent that this is not acceptable, the threat or use of violence is just very wrong. I mean just like the paper has a right to publish what they see fit, and the govt has a right to apologize or not apologize for it, people have the ability to not buy certain things, even if it is for a short time, speak with your voices, and with your purchasing power, why go for violence.
and 'itsme' you are correct, but just like anti-muslim sort of groups are having a field day with it, so are our own fanatics who are using this for their own purposes, riling up the masses just to get their own political calling cards recharged and be copnsidered 'relevant" and a force to be reckoned with, in their own countries.
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sorry I didnt mean it to sound like its ok to make a cartoon like this...its NOT. I've taken offense many times to this type of cartoon - most of the time they are depicting high-level political figures in the most degrading of ways. Thats just how it is in a country where "freedom of speech" is protected. Not that the onus is on Muslims to understand Western culture...but well that would help I think. At least a little. More onus should be on the western cultures to be more respectful. But all of this flag-burning, hatred-mongering, death to westerners type of thing really isnt accomplishing much is it? And it may even be serving in a negative way as to the general perception of Muslims in the "western world". I dont know, YES it was wrong, YES it was disgusting. But the reaction in the Muslim world should be more of calm and indignant outrage rather than just pure rage....then the reaction would be taken more seriously. IMHO. SOmeone above said "when in ROme, do as romans do" and this goes further than you'd think. Take things IN CONTEXT I guess is what I'm trying to say. Maybe I'm wrong....this is a very sad thing that happened tho and I really do apologize if anyone took me to mean that the cartoon was ok.....
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its aright… chill… lets relax people. whos up for an animated film 
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so now its goes from 'why are you offended?' 'you need to understand western culture(!)' to...'well if you are offended...this is how you go about showing it!'
Forgive our collective indignation and anger but I think this kind of sums up alot:
"Not only are whites kicking us; they are telling us how to react to being kicked''
Steve Biko