Cartoon related threads/Protests (all threads merged)

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If yesterday was bad, today was worse. Mod pelted stones on any moving or still thing. Be it car, people, rickshaw, internet cafes. Seriuos lack of common sense. This isnt about religion or cartoons anymore. This is about political agenda carried out through frustrated individuals.

In lahore, Telecom offices (telenor, mobilink, ufone) all were evacuated and people were asked to go home at lunch time. In Islamabd similar incidents happened as whole Blue Area was closed down because of a plannet protest at 3 pm. These f***ing morons dont realise that they are costing millions of rupees per day to their own country. Foreign investment in telecom sector will be seriously damaged as investors will think twice now. Just when telecom and IT sector specially was on an all time high and lots of jobs were beig opened, such incidents occured to cause damage. But no, we want to protest by pelting stones, burning tires and causing a minor civil war situation.

Re: Cartoon related threads/Protests (all threads merged)

Must be a Café Mod!

Re: Cartoon related threads/Protests (all threads merged)

According to authorities in Peshawar, protesters, many of them students, set fire to a KFC restaurant, a cinema and several other buildings, including a Daewoo bus terminal that contained 16 buses, as they rampaged through the city. A number of cars and motorcycles were also burned.<<

What's the reason to burn down Daewoo's buses and stand..? these morons shot be shot in head; they don't deserve any better.

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*Three more killed in Pakistan's third consecutive day of protests *
PESHAWAR, Pakistan (AP) Protesters burned a KFC restaurant and movie theatres in Pakistan's biggest protest yet against the blasphemous cartoons on Wednesday. Three died and dozens were injured in protests in two cities, police and witnesses said. More than 70,000 people flooded into the streets of Peshawar, torching businesses and fighting police, who struck back with tear gas and batons, a police official said. About 1,500 students surprised police in Lahore by staging an unannounced rally outside Punjab University, the official added. A 30-year-old man was shot dead in the clash with police in Lahore. Two people were reported dead in Peshawar, including an 8-year-old boy shot in the face by a bullet fired by a demonstrator, police said. At least 45 people were being treated for injuries in Peshawar's state-run hospitals, witnesses added.(First Posted @10:45 PST Updated @ 14:48 PST)

Re: Cartoon related threads/Protests (all threads merged)

Killings, riotings, burnings, lootings, death threats, etc...

The author of these cartoons and supporters of free speech must be feeling some redemption at this point. Any criticisms of the barbarity, tolerance and civility of the cartoons mean absolutely nothing at this point.

Boycott Denmark - Protect the Honour of Our Prophet (Salallaaho Alaihe Wasallam)

Salaam,

Muslims of the world, let us unite and do our bit to protect the honour of our beloved Mohammed (Peace and Blessings of Allaah be upon him).

Boycott Denmark and show her that she must apologise and ammend her laws on "freedom of expression".

Here is a list of Danish products I could find, kindly boycott their purchase and also add any Danish products I may have missed and forward the list to as many people as you can, May Allah reward you amply.

*A LIST OF DANISH PRODUCTS *

  1. Food:

a. Arla Foods is Europe's second-largest dairy company and the leading Danish exporter to Saudi Arabia, where it sells an estimated 328 million dollars worth of products every year.

b. Brands

i. Rosenborg
ii. Lurpak

iii. Dofino

iv. Denmark's Finest

v. Mediterra

vi. Danish Crown (meat)

vii. Lurmaerket Butter

viii. Danish Bacon

ix. Thor Fish

x. Danisco Food

c. Candy:

i. Toms (chocolate)
ii. LAgermann

iii. Galle & Jessen

iv. Ingeborgs Chocolate

d. Beverages:

i. Tuborg Beer

ii. Carlsberg Beer

iii. Aalborg Aquavit (snaps)
iv. Danish Distillers

  1. Medicine:

a. Novo

  1. Audio Equipment/Home Theater

a. (Theatre for those across the Pond):

b. B&O (Bang & Olufsen)

c. Cilo

d. Eltax

e. Tangent

  1. Cigarettes:

a. Prince (Do not start smoking because of this fire!)

  1. Clothing:

a. H2O

b. Hummel

c. Per Reumert

d. Munthe plus Simonsen

e. Bruuns Bazaar

f. Veromoda

g. Only

h. IC Companies

i. In Wear

j. Matinique

k. Sand

  1. Shoes:

a. Ecco (USA Site)

b. Jaco

  1. Toys:

a. Brio (toys)

b. Lego (toys)

  1. Danish Design:

a. B & G Porcelain

b. Georg Jensen

c. HTH- kitchen

d. Morsoe (Fireplaces)

e. PH-lamps

f. Pipes

g. Raadvad (knives etc.)

h. Royal Copenhagen

i. Royal Danish Porcelain

j. Skagen (Watches)

k. Stelton

l. Trip Trap

m. Vesta (Windmills)

  1. Other:

a. Danish Yarn

b. Nexo Fireplaces

c. Nilfisk Vacuum Cleaners (USA site since I can’t speak Danish)

d. Watco Danish Furniture Oil

Re: Boycott Denmark - Protect the Honour of Our Prophet (Salallaaho Alaihe Wasallam)

Are you REALLY REALLY sure you want us to boycott Danish Bacon

and Carlsberg Beer

do you think they'll really notice?

Faruk Khan

Why should these companies suffer because of what someone else did?

Re: Cartoon related threads/Protests (all threads merged)

Buy British bacon my bonny lass, it turns out more crisp and less chewy compared to the Danish variety. :snooty:

Jokes aside, there’s no other way to make the Danish economy suffer, these companies will loose profit but tough kak-poo, it will show the rest of them just how seriously we take our faith, we can’t sit and do nothing and it would be wrong to start harming innocents on the streets and wrecking their belongings.

Trust me boycotting works, Danish companies have already suffered big losses and they’ll continue to do so if we all Muslims unite.

Good analysis: What the Muhammad cartoons portray

This is a decent analysis of how these cartoons came about and what is in them.
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BBC NEWS
What the Muhammad cartoons portray**
By Martin Asser
BBC News

Twelve caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad published last year have had a huge impact around the world, with riots in many Muslim countries causing deaths and destruction - so what do the drawings actually say?

They originally appeared in the best-selling Danish newspaper Jyllands-Posten on 30 September to accompany an editorial criticising self-censorship in the Danish media.

Since then some media outlets have republished the pictures in solidarity, while others - including the BBC - have refrained from publishing them to avoid causing offence to their audiences.

The issue arose after Danish writer Kare Bluitgen complained he was unable to find an illustrator for his children’s book about the Prophet because he said no one dared break an Islamic tenet banning the portrayal of his image.

We are on our way to a slippery slope where no-one can tell how the self-censorship will end

Jyllands-Posten editorial
Jyllands-Posten asked cartoonists to “draw the Prophet as they saw him”, as an assertion of free speech and to reject pressure by Muslims groups to respect their sensitivities.

The paper chose as its central image a visual joke about the Prophet among other turban-wearing figures in a police line-up and the witness saying: “I don’t know which one he is”.

It is presumably an ironic appeal for calm over the issue, the suggestion being that, if a Danish illustrator were to portray the Prophet, it is not known what he looks like and is therefore a harmless gesture.

The humour comes from the fact that the line-up also includes people like Jesus Christ, the far-right Danish politician Pia Kjaersgaard and Mr Bluitgen himself.

‘PR stunt’

Eleven other cartoons are printed around the edge of the page showing the Prophet in a variety of supposedly humorous or satirical situations.

One seems to criticise Mr Bluitgen himself for exploiting the issue for publicity to sell his book.

He is portrayed holding a child’s drawing of the Prophet, while an orange inscribed with “PR stunt” drops into a turban he is wearing. (The expression “orange in the turban” connotes a “piece of luck” in Danish.)

Other images appear not especially critical of Islam in their content.

One shows the Prophet wandering through the desert with the sun setting behind him. In another his face merges with an Islamic star and crescent.

Several cartoonists, however, do seem to take the Jyllands-Posten commission as an invitation to be deliberately provocative towards Muslims.

Critical views

The most controversial image shows the Prophet Muhammad carrying a lit bomb in the shape of a turban on his head decorated with the Islamic creed.

The face is angry, dangerous-looking - a stereotypical villain with heavy, dark eyebrows and whiskers.

Another shows Muhammad b*****shing a sword ready for a fight. His eyes are blacked out while two women stand behind him with their Islamic dress leaving only their eyes uncovered.

Two of the critical cartoons do not show the Prophet at all. One uses crescent moons and stars of David to form repeated abstract shapes, possibly showing women in Islamic dress.

A poem accompanies the shapes, that one translator has rendered as: “Prophet, you crazy bloke! Keeping women under yoke.”

In the other, a schoolboy points to a blackboard on which it is written in Farsi: “The editorial team of Jyllands-Posten are a bunch of reactionary provocateurs”.

The boy is labelled “Mohammed, Valby school, 7A”, suggesting he is a second-generation Iranian immigrant to Denmark. “The future” is written on his shirt.

Humorous views

Other cartoonists have clearly attempted a more humorous approach - as with the central image - although the images will be no less offensive to Muslims.

For example, one shows Muhammad standing on a cloud holding back a line of smouldering suicide bombers trying to get into heaven.

“Stop, stop, we have run out of virgins,” he says.

This is a reference to the supposed reward of 72 virgins in heaven for Muslim martyrs, although Islamic scholars often point out that there is no specific belief of this kind.

Another drawing shows Muhammad looking at a sheet of paper, but holding back two sword-wielding assassins.

“Relax guys, it’s just a drawing made by some infidel South Jutlander (ie from the middle of nowhere),” the figure says.

One cartoonist portrays Muhammad with a kind of halo around his head, but it could be a crescent moon, or a pair of devil’s horns.

Anger and confusion

The last cartoon on the page goes back to the theme of artistic freedom: a cartoonist draws an Arab face with headdress, inscribed “Mohammed”, but he crouches over the drawing and shields it with his hand.

The Jyllands-Posten cartoons do not include some images that may have had a role in bringing the issue to international attention.

Three images in particular have done the rounds, in Gaza for example, which are reported to be considerably more obscene and were mistakenly assumed to have been part of the Jyllands-Posten set.

One of the pictures, a photocopied photograph of a man with a pig’s ears and snout, has been identified as an old Associated Press picture from a French “pig-squealing” contest.

It was reportedly circulated by Danish Muslims to illustrate the atmosphere of Islamophobia which they say they live under.

There is no doubt that the some of the original Jyllands-Posten cartoons are sufficiently hostile in nature to be taken as provocative by the Muslim community, whatever their intention.

But some critics have said all the drawings and the manner of their publication betray European arrogance and Islamophia.

Muslim writer Ziauddin Sardar likens them to anti-Semitic images published in Europe in the 1920s and 30s, with Muslims being demonised as violent, backward and fanatical.

“Freedom of expression is not about doing whatever we want to do because we can do it,” he wrote in the Independent on Sunday.

“It is about creating an open marketplace for ideas and debate where all, including the marginalised, can take part as equals.”
Story from BBC NEWS:

Re: Good analysis: What the Muhammad cartoons portray

Then tell me why the same newspaper refused to print pictures of the Holocaust and of Christ?

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^^

Where do you get your information from !!!

The daily noose I suppose.

Re: Good analysis: What the Muhammad cartoons portray

I must say ignorance must be one of your endearing skills.

Want the other link as well or is this enough to shut you up?

Muslim Boycotts of Danish Products Costly

Muslim Boycotts of Danish Products Costly
By DAVID RISING, Associated Press Writer

COPENHAGEN, Denmark - Consumer boycotts of Danish goods in Muslim countries in protest of the publication of caricatures of the Prophet Muhammad are costing Denmark’s companies millions, and have raised fears of irreparable damage to trade ties.

From Havarti cheese to Lego toys, Danish products have been yanked off the shelves of stores in Saudi Arabia, Kuwait and other countries around the Middle East as Muslims await an apology for the cartoons, which the Copenhagen government has said it cannot give. The boycotts have also spawned counter-boycott campaigns to “Buy Danish.”

The boycotts began in Saudi Arabia on Jan. 26 when supermarkets either put up signs saying to stop buying Danish goods or removed products from shelves. Since then it has spread to other Muslim nations, and even to Western stores doing business there.

A supermarket in Cairo run by France’s Carrefour has had signs, for example, saying that it is not offering Danish products “in solidarity with Muslims and Egyptians.”

A spokesman for Carrefour in France said the store was a franchise run by a local company. While Carrefour is strictly neutral, he said, the stores operated by partners and franchises are free to make commercial decisions according to the local situations.

Indonesia’s importers association on Wednesday began boycotting Danish goods, which it said made up $74 million in 2005, about 1 percent of the nation’s annual imports.

In Syria, banners on walls and storefronts all call for consumers to avoid Danish products.

Employees of Danish Lurpak butter agent Yasser Al-Srayyed recently raised a banner in front of his Damascus office saying: “Yasser al-Srayyed has stopped importing Lurpak.” The banner is now gone, but the imports have not resumed.

“It’s a situation that causes a great concern from our members,” said Henriette Soltoft, director of international market policy for the Confederation of Danish Industries, which represents Denmark’s major companies.

“There’s also the fear (for the future) … that the consumer will not remember exactly what happened, but they will remember the connection to Denmark,” she said, noting that the Middle East is seen as a growth area. “Our good relations with these countries have been damaged but we don’t know yet to what extent — that we’ll see in the future and it will depend on how soon this crisis will be solved and how it will be solved.”

The drawings published by newspaper Jyllands-Posten in September have sparked protests, sometimes violent, in Muslim countries. Islam widely holds that representations of Muhammad are banned for fear they could lead to idolatry.

Iran’s Foreign Minister Manushehr Mottaki reiterated a common position on Thursday, saying that “in order for the Danish government to mend its relations with the Islamic world and Muslim peoples, it should issue a formal apology.”
Danish Prime Minister Anders Fogh Rasmussen has repeatedly rejected demands for an apology, saying the government cannot be held responsible for the actions of an independent newspaper. The paper itself has apologized for offending Muslims, but has stood by its decision to print the drawings, citing freedom of speech.

European Union Trade Commissioner Peter Mandelson has warned governments that if they are behind the boycotts that they could face action at the World Trade Organisation if the EU proves they are involved. If the boycotts are purely consumer-driven, however, little can be done.

Denmark’s Danske Bank estimates Danish goods worth $1.6 billion annually are threatened in 20 Muslim countries by the boycott. That compares with worldwide exports in 2004 of about $73 billion.

But Soltoft cautioned that the damage goes beyond exports, extending to service contracts, shipping and production facilities in the area — losses that cannot yet be quantified.

“It’s really difficult to give an exact picture of the situation for the time being,” she said in an interview Thursday.

Arla Foods, one of Europe’s largest dairy companies, is thought to be the worst hit, losing an estimated $1.6 million each day.

Others have been affected to a lesser extent, like Lego, which said Middle Eastern sales only account for 0.2 percent of its sales and that many do not identify it as a Danish company.

“We have never marketed ourselves as a Danish product, we see ourselves as an international brand,” said spokeswoman Charlotte Simonsen. “You can ask Americans who think it is American, ask Germans who think it’s German — many people don’t know that it’s Danish.”

The boycott has also spawned a grass-roots Internet campaign by people around the world urging others to “Buy Danish,” generally in support of freedom of speech.

“The Danish government has nothing to do with it and has been very correct that they have nothing to say about what newspapers publish, and we should not let these religious fanatics try to make them,” said Tijl Vercaemer, an engineering student in Ghent, Belgium. He started his supportdenmark.com Web site after watching Palestinian gunmen briefly take over an EU office in Gaza on Jan. 30 in anger over the drawings.

Vercaemer said he has received thousands of e-mails in response to his site — one of many that have sprouted up in support of Denmark — including from Muslims expressing their solidarity.

On Wednesday he started selling stickers, at about $1 for 15 to cover his costs, with the slogan “Help the Danes defend our freedom: SUPPORT DENMARK” and said he has already shipped more than 700.

“It’s hard to say whether the ‘Buy Danish’ campaign really works, it was more intended as moral support,” the 23-year-old said. “But I was very happy to read … that some companies say that they really thought the ‘Buy Danish’ campaign could give them more income than the boycott could cost them.”

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060216/ap_on_re_eu/prophet_drawings_boycott

Re: Muslim Boycotts of Danish Products Costly

So keep up the good work and keep boycotting Denmark and other nations which allowed and defended the blasphemous cartoons in the name of freedom of expression.

I know a few Catering Managers in schools and hospitals and a few Asian grocery store owners who I've persuaded to avoid Danish products such as cheese and meat and to buy British instead, we all have to do our bit.

Re: Good analysis: What the Muhammad cartoons portray

:stupid:

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I think this issue has been torn apart enough no more autopsy needed

Re: Good analysis: What the Muhammad cartoons portray

Why not? Western double standards are not to your liking?

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no society is perfect but when it comes to double standards i am afraid muslim world hardly has moral rights to lecture anybody........ talk to e when saudis start practcing religious tolerance as of today not tven a single church exist and if someone finds that u keep some god's idol even within the confines of your home you cud be incarcaerated .......

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I find it amazing you are comparing the EU and Saudi Arabia. Do you feel their actions and standards are comparable?

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Saudi arabia is on extreme but hey aren;t they the most vocal how come I don;t see protest anywhere in muslim world over saudis practice.. i belive u are from pakistan just have alook around you and tell me honestly does pakistan coem even close to religious tolerance ( do consider those rituals of church burning on rumours hindu girls abduction ahmedi /shai procession blown up by such a regularity) as compare to west........ all i am saying is west is not perfect but when it comes to tolerance muslim world has hardly anything to preach to them.. there is no contest whatsoever......