Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
abay chal hatt.. chop chop ka bacha. jaa safai kar.
Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
abay chal hatt.. chop chop ka bacha. jaa safai kar.
Just for the record, I am a SHE.
I don't know why you're so obsessed with janitors and safai. I DO know however that your country is badly in need of cleaning since half the country is living in slums and are unfortunately subjected to extreme filth. Maybe YOU should consider hiring a couple of janitors to clean up your bharat. Food for thought? Oh maybe not since child malnutrition is so rampant in your country. You guys don't even care to FEED the future of your country yet you claim of economic success!!
A simple fact:
According to UNICEF, it is estimated that about 42.5% of the children in India suffer from malnutrition. The World Bank, citing estimates made by the World Health Organization, states that about 49 per cent of the world's underweight children, 34 per cent of the world's stunted children and 46 per cent of the world's wasted children, live in India.
You guys are HILARIOUS!
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a she indeed.. i bet most people can't tell. :)
Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
cherry: dear you are talking about issue which you have very little knowledge about. and with delusional prophet like moxyz your useless chest thumping is just waste of time.
i know china is way ahead of india at the moment but learned people have predicted that india will take over may be not today but in a distant future.
and for pakis, please stop derailing any thread regarding india and get it closed.
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a she indeed.. i bet most people can't tell. :)
Resorting to cheap tactics only undermines your own integrity. Grow up and learn to play fair. Oh you're an Indian....fairness doesn't exist in your vocabulary what with the caste system you all religiously follow.
You're the one suffering from an identity crisis Mr. Queer. I am sure that does wrack havoc to your mental well being, thus your immature posts. It's ok. It will all work out in the end just like India will makes waves with its unprecedented economic success.
Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
cherry: dear you are talking about issue which you have very little knowledge about. and with delusional prophet like moxyz your useless chest thumping is just waste of time. i know china is way ahead of india at the moment but learned people have predicted that india will take over may be not today but in a distant future. and for pakis, please stop derailing any thread regarding india and get it closed.
Yes I have no knowledge about your amazing country. Keep hanging around your 'learned' (aka delusional Indians) people and hold on to your faith!! The only thing India will take over China is in population. But with more than 40% of the children starving, I am afraid the future fertility rates might get drastically affected! :( which actually works out in the end!!!! Oh so that's why India doesn't like to feed its children!! Gotcha! ;)
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^^ All i hear more jealousy and general hatred towards life from you. I was expecting better response then all that whining . oh wait, you are a pakistani, what else to expect from you.
burn baby burn... i love when you guys do it.;)
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Some foolish people ? Like The Economist for example :hehe:
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^ Yes we're jealous of your country since it proudly harbors one third of the world's poor and is also the proud host of the world's largest undernourished population. Not only that, it also engages in blatant discrimination by dividing people into castes. Discrimination exists in every country but never have I seen it to be such an integral and encouraged part of society as in India. Yes I am burning with jealousy! :)
General hatred towards life? Where did THAT come from? I love life and am thankful for that fact that I wasn't born an 'untouchable' in India! :)
But do tell me do you regularly visit a Pakistani forum because you like to see people whine? I didn't know confronting reality about a country equated to being whiners. You learn something new every day thanks to the amazing intellect of Indians.
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^ Yes we're jealous of your country since it proudly harbors one third of the world's poor and is also the proud host of the world's largest undernourished population. Not only that, it also engages in blatant discrimination by dividing people into castes. Discrimination exists in every country but never have I seen it to be such an integral and encouraged part of society as in India. Yes I am burning with jealousy! :)
General hatred towards life? Where did THAT come from? I love life and am thankful for that fact that I wasn't born an 'untouchable' in India! :)
But do tell me do you regularly visit a Pakistani forum because you like to see people whine? I didn't know confronting reality about a country equated to being whiners. You learn something new every day thanks to the amazing intellect of Indians.
More whining ? Anyways, getting back to the topic, I posted the link to an article from The Economist that says that India will soon outpace China. Surprise ! Surprise !! Its not just the delusional Indians who believe that :D
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Aww look at you utilizing your googling powers. There you go again totally missing the point. This article talks about a fraction of the country!!! Why would you ignore the majority of the country??? The majority that is hungry, living in slums with no clean water, with no education, with no money and with a constant stress about how to get its next meal!! It’s like me saying Pakistan is making great progress by hanging out in Defense Karachi totally oblivious of the reality!!
Oh I can copy paste too!!! Here is the first comment to this article!!! hahaha
450 million poor in India (more than in entire Africa combined) also mean 450 million who do not have any economic space to play. 250 million defecating on train tracks also mean 250 million whose ill-health will never allow contributing to the national economic growth. 57 million children in India malnourished - one third of all underweight children in the world - means that when they grow up they will be operating on the economic fringes. The young demography will soon turn into a old demography and the task to provide welfare services to them will be gigantic, and quite simply unmanageable for any country in the world, let alone India.
Deeply entrenched caste and ethnic divisions, Maoists waging war in more than a third of the country, all neighbouring countries irritated and annoyed with India and opening up to China, the wealth of few cities never trickling down to the poor let alone lifting the poor out of poverty at one big go, endemic corruption and institutional inability to undertake massive projects (CWG anyone?).
And the western world thinks India will outpace China’s growth?
What do you eat when you are hungry? Democracy? Besides, we think China is just going take a nap now and let someone walk past?
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This is hilarious. You guys are suffering from borderline schizophrenic disorders. We'll meet again in 2015 and assess India's 'progress'!! hahaa
Till then I have more important things to deal with.....like whine about Pakistan, be miserable about my existence and feel extremely bitter about India's rapid economic growth.
Adios!
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And who told you that - your relatives who visited India ??
Maybe next time I will post an Urdu article so you can actually comprehend & respond 
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Bud, I think you summed it up pretty well, Just one correction though..its not 250 million that defecate out in the open but almost 800 million.. Another angle by UN to descredit India. BTW here is teh link to that report straight from lying UN.. 
http://www.un.org/works/OLD/sustainable/drpatak_waterstory.html
P.S: I smell something indian indian buring in this thread 
Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
In the next decade or two I don't see India overtaking China. However in the longer run if the Indian economy continues to do well then it may be in a position to compete against China.
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aww… cherry your real color is showing. btw i love your whining and ranting.
here is something for you to read. get mo to read it as well since his love for his father’s motherland is endless.
**House of angels**
We are mostly prisoners of our individual experiences, and this makes our presumptions of truth largely relative. The tale that follows is a personal one and my version of the truth. My father used to remind me often that human nature comprises both angelical and daemonic characteristics. It is one’s acquired and nurtured values, socio-economic circumstances and conscience that determine which of these characteristics emerge more prominently to define one’s life and character.
We have been in India since Jan 5, to seek treatment and transplant surgery for my mother who had been suffering from end-stage liver disease. She has been under the treatment of Dr Subash Gupta and his 15-member liver-transplant team at the Apollo Hospital in New Delhi and we have been extremely blessed to encounter only angelic professionals and hosts in this country that we in Pakistan love to hate.
My mother has suffered from Hepatitis C for over a decade. Doctors suspect that she might have acquired it from the Armed Forces Institute of Cardiology in Rawalpindi when she went in for an angiography in 1998. Bad as we are in documenting statistics, we don’t know the exact number of Pakistanis who have acquired hepatitis. What we do know is that millions in Pakistan suffer from this ailment, and most are not even lucky enough to be able to afford the expensive Interferon treatment that has a 60-70-per-cent success rate in curing Hepatitis C. If left untreated, or if there is a relapse after treatment, Hepatitis C can lead to liver cirrhosis (a condition where the liver begins to fail) in around 10-15 years. It is hard to predict a cirrhotic patient’s life expectancy, but the quality of life is fairly grim. The only medical treatment that can cure cirrhosis is a liver transplant. According to one estimate, liver failure claims over 10,000 lives in Pakistan every year.
With the rapid proliferation of hepatitis in Pakistan the lives we lose to cirrhosis will grow exponentially in the years to come. And yet there isn’t one credible liver transplant facility that can offer the gift of life to citizens with liver disease in this nuclear-weapon state with the seventh-largest standing army in the world. Also extremely disappointing is the quality of medical advice afforded to patients in Pakistan, which seems to be caused not by doctors’ lack of medical expertise but poor professional ethos and a complete absence of accountability. For example, my mother was given Interferon treatment for a third time when cirrhosis had already set in, without the doctor advising us that this was extremely aggressive strategy that could even accelerate liver failure (de-compensation of liver in medical-speak), instead of slowing down cirrhosis. That is exactly what happened.
The doctor administering the treatment is one of the best-regarded hepatologists in Rawalpindi. He couldn’t have acted in bad faith because he is also a distant relative. Yet, getting access to him even during the treatment was a Herculean challenge. Once he was informed the treatment had gone awry (my mother had swollen up like a balloon due to water retention), he told us in a matter-of-fact manner that the treatment would be suspended, as it didn’t work. On further prodding he suggested that a liver transplant was now the only curative option. Why did it not work? What did a transplant entail? How could we plan and get ready for one? What life expectancy were we looking at without it? Not a word.
We opted to consult another liver specialist who heads the hepatology department of a large public hospital in Rawalpindi. His private hospital in Satellite Town had long cues of really sick patients. It was torturous to wait for that never-ending hour with a really unwell mother, and I was always nervous that I’d forget to ask some of the pressing questions in the five-minute audience we got with the professor. During one of these consultations, to understand the course of my mother’s treatment, I had the audacity to ask him to explain what each of the six medicines he had prescribed would do. He looked at me unbelievingly and said he’d be doing nothing else all day if he had to tell his patients in any detail what treatment they were receiving. I was tempted to offer him an extra fee for the trouble but I bit my tongue. As my mother’s health deteriorated, we asked him if we should consider liver transplant as an option. He said no.
Our dismay grew while consulting another renowned specialist in Islamabad who spent a whole three minutes with my mother and her ten-year record of lab results and treatment. We finally wound up at Shifa hospital in Islamabad and sought consultation with the hospital’s most experienced liver specialist. You couldn’t get access to him either without waiting for a few hours or asking a concerned family friend – also a consultant at Shifa – to intervene. Despite such poor ethic, so busy is this doctor’s practice that even when he prescribes a follow-up the patient still has to endure the two-hour wait, which underscores the lack of choices for liver treatment in Islamabad.
During one of the scary episodes when we had to rush my mother to Shifa, this doctor told me she might live for a few months. When I asked about our options, he said sometimes patients linger on for a few years despite a bleak prognosis, hinting that we should just rely on miracles. But he simply did not utter a word about liver transplant.
In medical science there are objective criteria to determine the life expectancy of a patient with end-stage liver disease. The most reliable is one called MELD score that is used to determine the urgency of a transplant in view of expected life span. None of the aforesaid specialists bothered to calculate my mother’s MELD score. Unfortunately, we have a socio-religious culture in Pakistan where matters of life and death are deemed preordained and attributed to “God’s will.” This is coupled with a legal regime that affixes no liability for professional negligence. Human life is fickle, but it ought not be treated as dispensable. Doctors cannot breathe life into someone whose time is up. But they can fight really hard and certainly owe patients a duty of care to act diligently and compassionately, devote the time and attention required, and educate patients about their ailments as well as treatment options. It is about time we hold our professionals (starting with doctors and lawyers) accountable for their advice, acts and omissions.
On the advice of another friend and consultant at Shifa, we also consulted Dr Najam-ul-Hasan (who is leading the effort to establish a transplant centre at Shifa, together with Dr Faisal Dar, another very professional and helpful surgeon who has given up his job at Kings Transplant Centre in London to return to Pakistan). He was the only doctor who sat us down and explained in detail cirrhotic patients’ need and eligibility for liver transplant, various transplant options, and the fact that we should actively consider transplant. He advised that the UK, China and India had transplant centres that patients from Pakistan generally opted for. At the time India didn’t jump out as the preferred destination. Having nurtured the bias of the West’s superiority in most things, including healthcare, the US and the UK were the destinations of choice.
We ended up with Apollo Hospital in Delhi through a process of exclusion. And it turned out that the universe was conspiring to get us to the best medical treatment and care that we could aspire for.
(To be continued)
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Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
Education is the key for India to compete with China
India: The next university superpower?
Re: Can India overtake China is coming years?
Back to topic... I think India will need about 50+ years to reach the level China has today. By then however China would have set the bar much higher. So at that point, India would require another 50+ years to reach the next level, but China would have set the bar even higher and so it goes...
Bottom line is, India can not overtake China in the coming 4-5 centuries.
Give the credit where it is due. India is making good progress in GDP and is producing some ultra rich people in the process. Good for you.
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Chinese started economic modernization newly two decades before Indians did. right now India is behind china and will remain at that position for time to come. both countries are economically each other’s very good partner, Chinese are Indians number one partner and despite diplomatic and strategic problems they are able to find commonalities between them, it is sufficient to believe that Indians and Chinese know worth of each other in the economic department. another point worth including is the way India and china supported each other in Copenhagen climate summit :k:
for indians, rather than overtaking any country in future, we should look at means to improve ourselves and set benchmarks to improve our standard, competing with china is meaningless because china is not utopia. gini coefficient reveals same income disparity between groups, it is better that india should learn what Chinese are doing better than others and did better than others, china, india, pakistan and israel started together and see how differently we are positioned in the world economically, there is lot to learn from each other than simply comparing and competing.
the very same calculation was thought about japan vs china few decades ago. right:blush:
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Whats you guyz obsession with superpower, is it some kind of inferiority complex? university superpower…LMAO… Have you seen Chinese graph then? they must be a super duper university superpower if there is such a thing that is..
geez!!!