Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
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Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
Everyone talking about PTI should or should not contest elections under the same ECP etc etc. Nobody is talking how the ..... PTI defeated a 4 party alliance in the province where they are supposed to be governing poorly in their first ever government.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
If PTI is happy to contest by-elections then why is it insisting on PM's resignation and new elections. Let PTI contest by elections and win seats if it has genuine support.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
Position of TUQ is same what it would be if Imran resigns from rigged parliament. Or ... position of TUQ is same as what it was of Imran before May 2013 election.
Really? Didn't expect this from you :)
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Really? Didn't expect this from you :)
Why is that? What is the difference?
TUQ (PAT) contested election 2002 and got 1 seats.
IK (PTI) contested election 2002 and got 1 seats.
Both got ~ same number of votes in 2002 election.
TUQ (PAT) boycotted 2008 election … siting that Paksitani electoral system is not fair neither elections are fair and free … is marred with pre-election rigging, during election rigging and post-election rigging … and is marred with rigging of all kind and worst is that, election system do not comply with Pakistan constitution, hence are illegal.
IK (PTI) boycotted 2008 election ... siting that Pakistani electoral system is not fair neither elections are fair and free … is marred with pre-election rigging, during election rigging and post-election rigging.
That is the situation of both parties before 2013 election. … So … how can TUQ and IK position was different before 2013 election?
TUQ (PAT) boycotted 2013 election … citing that he would only contest election if election would be legal and according to constitution … and that is the reason he did dharna in front of parliament in 2013 … asking for implementation of constitution to select EC and allowing candidates contesting election.
IK (PTI) contested 2013 election … hoping that he might get something out of the system as he made mistake trusting one of the ugliest and most corrupt judge Pakistan has ever produced.
But now IK also says that even though he contested election, he found that nothing changed and the judge he trusted was actually corrupt, characterless, and paid servant of Thug Nawaz.
So, after Imran Khan (PTI) resigns from parliament, he would be in same position as TUQ (PAT) … out of parliament because he (as TUQ) considers that this parliament is illegal and as it does not comply with constitution.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
I didn't check 2002 election results and didn't know if they participated in electoral process, fair enough... but even in 2013 elections he came and made a threat to make electoral process fair etc. but still didn't participate, now he is back with same thing again, there is some disconnect some where.
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I didn't check 2002 election results and didn't know if they participated in electoral process, fair enough... but even in 2013 elections he came and made a threat to make electoral process fair etc. but still didn't participate, now he is back with same thing again, there is some disconnect some where.
TUQ came with demands that government should make sure that election commission should get appointed according to constitution, interim government should be impartial, every candidate wanting to contest election should be scrutinised thoroughly according to constitution, EC should be properly appointed according to constitution, EC should be given enough tome to scrutinise candidates (as given in constitution), and polling should be free, fair and fool-proof as should be in democracy and government should make sure that 'all related process' can be seen too and everyone accepts that election is free, fair and fool-proof ... and all sorts of demands made by TUQ related to election, that was not only constitutional but was necessary for election, should get implemented in words and sprite
In the end, government accepted all his demands and asked that he should stop his dharna. But what happened is that, once TUQ left Islamabad and dharna, Government backed out of all agreement and did not fulfilled any of his demands. TUQ went to the court where Jahil and corrupt judge (IC) on payroll of NS took him badly and did everything illogical and against constitution to shut him up.
Court made ridiculous remarks that one cannot even expect from completely illiterate person (Person who is Jahil-e-Mutlaq), as at the time haddi was speaking in court rather than laws and justice. Court said that TUQ is Canadian national and thus have no right to even contest election in Pakistan, ignoring the fact that TUQ was a Pakistani ... and he was holding Canadian nationality as Pakistani constitution allows Pakistani to hold nationality of other countries without any change in his status as Pakistani national ... plus constitution also says that all Pakistanis in front of law should be considered equal and would have same rights. So ... it was amazing that choor and corrupt thug Judge (IC) on payroll of NS ignored all this and tried to deprive a Pakistani national of his equal right with other Pakistanis and also deprived his right to contest election. Shows ignorance of and illiterate (Jahil) and sold-out judge, who could not even understand simple words in constitution (as fat and haddi was on his eyes and brain).
Court also ridiculously made statement that TUQ was not stakeholder in Pakistani election ... even when at the same time acknowledged that TUQ has voting right .... that means:... denying TUQ his constitutional right to contest election but accepted TUQ constitutional right that he was voter ... but then in any democracy, the stakeholders are voters, not one who contest election, as election candidates are just applicant who ask stakeholders (voters) to give them opportunity of representing them ... and it is obvious in every law and sense (also obvious to anyone with modest intelligent) that one who represent cannot be stakeholder but stakeholder is the one who is represented.
Anyhow, end result was that TUQ did not contested election and seeing that system did not changed to become free, fair and fool-proof ... with application of Pakistani constitution in conducting election, TUQ party (PAT) also boycotted 2013 election.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
If PTI is happy to contest by-elections then why is it insisting on PM's resignation and new elections. Let PTI contest by elections and win seats if it has genuine support.
PIT has done boycott in 2008 (courtesy of NS), they can't leave their momentum wasted. They have to prove their popularity on whatever opportunity may come. Doesn't matter if the PM resigns next day.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
PIT has done boycott in 2008** (courtesy of NS)**, they can't leave their momentum wasted. They have to prove their popularity on whatever opportunity may come. Doesn't matter if the PM resigns next day.
Ahmaq leader kay ahmqana faislay
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
Here, the leaders of un-democratic parties, signed “charter of democracy”… they preach what they don’t act on:
Text of the Charter of Democracy - Newspaper - DAWN.COM
I believe NS and BB kept threatening to boycott the elections, and made a u-turn just before elections to participate which no one remembers.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
So you are saying that IK is a follower of N$
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
PIT has done boycott in 2008 (courtesy of NS), they can't leave their momentum wasted. They have to prove their popularity on whatever opportunity may come. Doesn't matter if the PM resigns next day.
Why not then let Election Tribunals hold by-elections where the results are in serious doubt. Why is IK asking for Parliament to be dissolved and PM to resign, so that elections are held throughout the whole of Pakistan.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
So you are saying that IK is a follower of N$
You already have made up your mind so I am not going to challenge it, I am just saying that IK wanted to be on same page as CoD fake signers but as usual they backed out and cheated others.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
Why not then let Election Tribunals hold by-elections where the results are in serious doubt. Why is IK asking for Parliament to be dissolved and PM to resign, so that elections are held throughout the whole of Pakistan.
Is election tribunal an independent body who can remove MNAs/MPAs on its own and hold by-elections? It has to come through the govt to which NS never agreed.
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Is election tribunal an independent body who can remove MNAs/MPAs on its own and hold by-elections? It has to come through the govt to which NS never agreed.
Yes, election tribunal I believe are independent.
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Yes, election tribunal I believe are independent.
And they have removed dozens of law-makers perhaps including this one too
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
And they have removed dozens of law-makers perhaps including this one too
The father had won the seat as an independent in 2013 and PTI candidate had lost. The father gets disqualified by election tribunal for fake degree. The son then wins the seat on PTI ticket. Is this a victory for PTI or for the local clan to whom they gave the ticket?
In 2013 PTI candidate came 4th and only got 1600 votes, so much for people voting for PTI irrespective of the candidate.
Re: By-elections: PTI secures PK-68 seat
This is Ehtesham Javed Akbar who defeated the status quo(JUIF/PMLN/QWP/PPP/ANP) combined candidate in D.I Khan PK-68 pic.twitter.com/0DF7c3D2mO