After Iraq the Israelis want to start a war with Iran.
MI6 chief visits Mossad for talks on Iran’s nuclear threat
Uzi Mahnaimi
THE head of MI6, Sir John Scarlett, is to visit Israel later this month as Britain forges closer links with Mossad, the Israeli intelligence service.
Iran’s nuclear programme is expected to be high on the agenda in an intelligence-sharing process described by Israeli officials as a “strategic dialogue”. It is building on long-standing cooperation between MI6 and Mossad, both of which have extensive spy networks in the Middle East.
Scarlett, 59, is likley to be briefed by Meir Dagan, 63, the head of Mossad, on Israel’s latest information about the Iranian nuclear programme. It is understood that Israel has made a breakthrough in intelligence-gathering within Iran. There is mounting concern in Israel that Iran’s nuclear capability may be far more advanced than was recognised in a declassified assessment by the US National Intelligence Estimate last December, which concluded that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons development programme in 2003 in response to international pressure.
One source claimed the new information was on a par with intelligence that led Israel to discover and then destroy a partly constructed nuclear reactor in Syria last September. Israeli officials believe the US will revise its analysis of Iran’s programme. “We expect the Americans to amend their report soon,” a high-ranking military officer said last week. Israel’s foreign minister, Tzipi Livni, briefed Gordon Brown and David Miliband, the foreign secretary, on Israel’s findings during talks on the Middle East in London last week. Israeli intelligence officers, en route from Washington where they had been outlining their latest information to American officials, joined Livni for the briefing.
It is thought that if Israel were considering military action against Iran over its nuclear programme, it would want to ensure it had diplomatic support in London and Washington because of the danger of triggering a wider Middle East conflict. “We’re doing a lot of things about Iran,” Ehud Barak, Israel’s defence minister, said last week. “We say we shouldn’t rule out any option. Not ruling out options means action, but the worst thing to do at the moment is to talk [about it].” Whitehall officials said Scarlett’s visit was “routine”.
I hope and pray for long term peace between Iran and Israel. I don’t understand why Iran would get into the ugly wrangling with Israel on issues that are purely between Israel and some of its immediate neighbors.
Both Iran and Israel are developing countries and any war will set both of them back many decades. Iran is really vulnerable due to its economic hardship thanks partly to the international sanctions, and mostly due to ill-conceived economic policies.
It is time for both Iran and Israel to back down and lower their rhetoric. This important for the sake of their own people.
Israel developing country? ever looked at their high tech industry.
There is no doubt that Israel is much more advanced technically than its immediate neighbors. However it still is not in the developed countries' league. I don't know if you keep track of the $billion aid being given to Israel as of now.
So yes it is better than many other countries in the middle East. However it is still "developing".
Before we get into this long discussion about "developing" or "developed", let's continue focusing on the Iran-Israel conflict. That a war between these two countries will devastate their economies.
Right ok, still developing? when does a country become "developed". What are developing countries developing towards/for?
Israel GDP (IMF): $161,935 million
Population: 7.1million
Area: 8 - 8.5k miles sq
Pakistan GDP (IMF): $143,766 million
Population: 170 million
Area: 340k miles sq
Who would say is the "developed" and developing?
Edit: Aid is in the form of military supplies. Has a kickback effect for the USA. Provided folk with jobs in American factories. USA also needs strong defence companies for it's own security. Otherwise the contracts would go to competitors, who then invest in more R&D; giving them a military edge. Did you forget about Egypt, Jordan too?
If you want to hijack the thread, well! be my guest.
Pakistan wasn't even remotely linked to the original post. If you have to, then compare Iran and Israel.
Anyways you have your agenda, so I can't judge you or go on repeating something way off topic.
Right ok, still developing? when does a country become "developed". What are developing countries developing towards/for?
Israel GDP (IMF): $161,935 million
Population: 7.1million
Area: 8 - 8.5k miles sq
Pakistan GDP (IMF): $143,766 million
Population: 170 million
Area: 340k miles sq
Who would say is the "developed" and developing?
Edit: Aid is in the form of military supplies. Has a kickback effect for the USA. Provided folk with jobs in American factories. USA also needs strong defence companies for it's own security. Otherwise the contracts would go to competitors, who then invest in more R&D; giving them a military edge. Did you forget about Egypt, Jordan too?
If you want to hijack the thread, well! be my guest.
Pakistan wasn't even remotely linked to the original post. If you have to, then compare Iran and Israel.
Anyways you have your agenda, so I can't judge you or go on repeating something way off topic.
You managed to hijack the thread yourself, your naiveness in understanding politics. The example of Pakistan was included to give a better effect to the example. I dont think to many folk on here would be particularly "at home" with the Iranian economy; and unlike Israel, Iran exports oil.
The Israel Iran difference in wealth, technology and overall capabilities is perhaps a great example of how regressive islamic regimes are.
Iran has a great cultural background, a population that was once well liberated. It is one of the top 3 oil reserve nations and exporters. It is sitting at a very strategic location. Yet all that has become useless. The clergy rule has effectively sent them back a few centuries!
A comcrete reason why religion must be kept away from the state.
Israel otoh, in spite of being surrounded by hostiles, in spite of being a recent entity, in spite of being a tiny tiny nation, has become a strong vibrant creative society where people are happy but for the weekly skirmish with the PLO/Hamas.
The so called islamic clergy has ruined one country after another, not just Iran. Afghanistan under taleban should also be a dire warning for all others including Malaysia and Pakistan
The Israel Iran difference in wealth, technology and overall capabilities is perhaps a great example of how regressive islamic regimes are.
Iran has a great cultural background, a population that was once well liberated. It is one of the top 3 oil reserve nations and exporters. It is sitting at a very strategic location. Yet all that has become useless. The clergy rule has effectively sent them back a few centuries!
A comcrete reason why religion must be kept away from the state.
Israel otoh, in spite of being surrounded by hostiles, in spite of being a recent entity, in spite of being a tiny tiny nation, has become a strong vibrant creative society where people are happy but for the weekly skirmish with the PLO/Hamas.
The so called islamic clergy has ruined one country after another, not just Iran. Afghanistan under taleban should also be a dire warning for all others including Malaysia and Pakistan